Here we go again, Post= Thoughful,opinion based discussion! What does this mean?

@tdemex (3545)
United States
November 3, 2009 7:27am CST
I see so many discussions asking "What shade of lipstick do you like?" or "Who is going to win the world series?" or "Do you like Coke or Pepsi?" Now can you Honestly tell me these are good quality, discussions? Why? Do you think people post just to post? Do you know the rules and guidelines here? Let me know please! I think the standards here at my lot are slipping! A lot! tdemex
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@zandi458 (28124)
• Malaysia
3 Nov 09
I have been asking this question for a long time..Where have all the veterans gone? They are no longer posting. The influx of newbies here have seen a lot of one liner posts and even those who have been here for a while have poor showing in good quality discussions and some just don't bother after posting their discussions. It is like 'touch and go' and leave their responses to fate. They should bear in mind that their job is incomplete without going back to their discussions and giving out their comments. Maybe those newcomers are unaware that they should post quality discussions to earn something. I hope they will open their eyes and learn something from reading the digest so they can emulate the style of posts needed in mylot.
@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
That's kinda the reason I posted this! I think the younger generation is to lazy to read the Rules and guidelines! I have this idea, about the admin. making a training video in a few different languages! To try to teach the latest and greatest future leaders of the world a tutorial of dos and don'ts about the site? Ya think they'd take the time to view it? Well from the response so far I know it's not just me! thanks tdemex
@Ldyjarhead (10241)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Because they don't care, they just want to make a buck the easy way. It's the same type of folks that'll punch a timeclock and collect a paycheck, not caring whether they've done a good job or not. So, what shade of lipstick DO you like? ;)
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
I'm not up on the latest shades and maybe on Halloween only!. This has turned into a production line of posting, you get a bonus on who makes the most posts in a 24 hour period! LOL! You might make a penny but money is money! Right! Sorry got more posting to do! thanks tdemex
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@jb78000 (15163)
3 Nov 09
i've asked him this before - he prefers frosted pink. bit dated/under 13ish i feel personally.
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@hani20 (60)
• Saudi Arabia
4 Nov 09
Because I am just an english learner and I would really want to build my english skill. As for quality discussions I could really make it but written in Arabic. How I wish the translator engine could work for this. As a new comer, I am wondering if some of you seniors can give us techniques on how to start a discussion effectively. Even a formula if you think it will work best to earn more responders disregards from the numbers of friends we have.
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@diamania (7028)
• Netherlands
3 Nov 09
The best discussions are open discussions. The type of discussions above can only be answered with yes or no or a tiny response. You're right tdemex, I see a lot of those discussions here. It's funny to see that people are disappointed when their discussions don't get any responses, doh! "Are you a male?" is no discussion. This is once again a question of quantity above quality while the other way around is the best way... Those who can't discuss should just be banned... it's harsh but it seems to be the best solution.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
You've got a point maybe a 3 strikes your out type of thing! It's getting harder and harder to find a posts to give a decent responses to now a days! Thanks for your input here! Hope this may help a little! tdemex
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• Philippines
3 Nov 09
Maybe you're right. Maybe I am missing the whole point of this site since my only reason for being here is to know what other people think about things in life, their opinions and if they have suggestions. Not much about earnings.
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@mysdianait (65052)
• Italy
3 Nov 09
I find also that among the newer Lotters there are more compared to before that seem to do things, fully aware that they are violating, just to see how far they can go and get away with it If all those non-discussions were reported when they are spotted then maybe those posting them would get the hint
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@SomeCowgirl (32254)
• United States
4 Nov 09
My rule is if I don't think it is a of the best quality or if I think it's repeated, I try to make it my own, and not repeated. Asking a bunch of questions to get a bunch of different opinions and responses. I don't like the fifty million different ice cream discussions, or the lip gloss discussions either. I think mylot is slipping but it's really up to all of us to steer a discussion into the right direction, or a discussion starter into the right direction. Even your discussion here is repeated, and yet I've myself complained about such lack of content in a response. We can't "sticky" a discussion for all to see here, but at times I wish there was a way to make a discussion stand out more, especially those often repeated, those should stay at the top on the discussion list. Or there should be a different category for discussions that are repeated.
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@SomeCowgirl (32254)
• United States
5 Nov 09
I Don't like to comment back to my own discussions. I used to be a discussion maker, but now I'm starting to much more like responding. I can understand the need to vent though, There's times I've bitten my tongue, but really wanted to "write" something here.
@KrauseHome (36663)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Personally my friend, I definately think that you are on to something here for sure. I know that many times some of the discussions I see being started here, especially from the New people coming in here are of poorer quality for sure. It amazes me when you even try to help someone out pointing out some of the better pointers in ways to earn $$ in here, they still do it their own way and usually against the TOS or not ways to make this site better for sure. I honestly think it is truly time people go back to more quality posts for New discussions before it ends up hurting this site more as well.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
I know and I know you've seen me offer help to new people here, and your correct some heed the advise and others go on their merry way! they either disappear or come back later and wonder why they aren't making any cash! Go figure, your not going to believe it but I ran in to a gal with 2000 posts and she hadn't made payout yet???? LOL! It takes all kinds to make up the world doesn't it! tdemex
@MrNiceGuy (4143)
• United States
4 Nov 09
It seems there are very few good threads still on Mylot. There used be much more, but there hasn't been a good level of discussion in a while. There are also a lot more people that speak different languages that makes it harder to get on a mutual level.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
I agree, I used to have no problem finding a good discussion where I could voice my opinion or give some of my expertise to a question that asked for help on a topic! But now it's getting harder and harder to find anything like that! T---
@Hatley (164154)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Nov 09
hi tdemex those are not quality discussions but sadly a lot of people will respond to them, and by pass others that have a lot more thought put into them. I think people just get lazy and do what is the easiest to do, sort of thoughtless discussions, not taking any thought to write,not taking any brain power to respond to.
@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
It seems to me todays generation got shorted on brain power! but then again they said that about us Babby boomers! Who knows only time will tell! I try my best and that all I can do! Thanks! Hatley T------
@thea09 (18314)
• Greece
3 Nov 09
Hi td, in theory they could be excellent topics if the poster could respond to the responses with wit and questions to prolong the interaction into off topic subjects, but alas it never happens. When you see them you know the poster won't respond as it is difficult to elaborate on 25 people saying 'Pepsi'. When I get a F/R I always take a look at the type of discussions they post and rule out anyone who expects me to chat about nail varnish(I kid you not).
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@jb78000 (15163)
3 Nov 09
i prefer blue or green. don't usually bother cos it chips off. i always do my toenails before a yoga class though
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@jb78000 (15163)
3 Nov 09
purple is ok too. pink looks silly and red is too much.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Me too thea, I try and do a backround check! but with no history it's hard to do! I take the old accept em then delete them the next day trick! As far as bunnies go I've never seen one with paw polish, but maybe I'll put some on the paw I have hanging off the mirror in my truck! I think bright red should do it? T----
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@mysdianait (65052)
• Italy
3 Nov 09
Every now and then I ask myself if this is a cycle repeating itself again. This time I thinkit is not. It's never been as bad as it is now since I joined. There are still many interesting discussions but sadly they get buried underneath the garbage and by the time the admins have cleaned up after the first round of reports, the next lot appear It appears now that more and more users are aware that they must comment in orde to earn so progress has been made but too many are arriving from forums where a discussion is unheard of that they are oblivious to what it even means. I went on a few boxes before I got this far Tde but while doing so I also noticed examples of users who are doing exactly what they say others should bot be doing. My conclusion is that the majority of newer users are in it for the money now and have not realised the potential if they put the earnings in second place
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
I agree 100% and have no good idea how to train the people here! It's as you say we are fighting a loosing battle! I think it's up to the Admin to come up with a solution to this on going problem, but then again it may not bother them? You can't educate people who are clueless can you? I know I sure can't! The only thing that is good from all of this is the laughs I get from others stupidity! I know that's sad but it is real. tdemex
@marguicha (165851)
• Chile
3 Nov 09
Don´t give up, friends! There are still many good posts here. But you must realise that many people come to mylot in the first place to get some extra cents. After a while many discover mylot is something else. I don´t mind so much about newbies but I do mind about people who have been here for a long time. Still, I´m sure many times I break the rules or at least the spirit of the rules. Those interests called "make extra money" and such are the ones that have most problems. It´s difficult to see the line. No promoting, no links. Ok. But is it promoting to say a site is legit? Difficult to draw the line. It also happens in everything in life. Happy posting! P.D.Nothing to do with this post but today my green bean plants came out
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
What it's spring there? They just fenced in a big area in the park here and planted a buch of stuff and then locked the gate? It must be for the Mayor!
@jb78000 (15163)
3 Nov 09
oh come on td. you can not honestly say that my 'what is your favourite fishy' was not a top quality discussion now can you.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Well my little bunny friend, without trying to hurt your sensitive feelings, the answer is YES!LOL! Try to think of why you didn't put why at the end! I don't men to tax your little bunny brain but take your time from now on! OK! Please I'm begging you to try and think things out a little more, that is unless your in the great race of who can do the most posts in a day? then your excused! T-----
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@jb78000 (15163)
3 Nov 09
hello my sarcastic little mexican friend. if you remember the discussion in question i did say something about the kind of discussion it was at the start. but now i feel the need to start a series - do you prefer sharks or rays? salmon or trout?, squid or octopus?. think i can manage to post about 600 of these in the next hour. you'll love them.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
Keep it up and I'm gonna trap your little bunny A^^ and paint your nails with Purple with non removable paint and add silver glitter to it! And make you the Bunny freak of the Homeland! So There!
@liquorice (3901)
4 Nov 09
Um, don't like lipstick, I've got no idea about the world series, and Pepsi. Ok, those answers do not constitute a good discussion. And most people are likely to give short or one-word answers to short questions, especially those that only have a few different, set answers. However, you you can always answer these short questions with longer, thoughtful answers, and it's always possible to turn them into discussions. For example you could elaborate on why you may like wearing red lipstick. Maybe it's particularly flattering for your complexion or it gives you confidence, or you feel grateful to be a woman (if you are one) because we're allowed to 'improve' our appearance in this way. Personally I would say that I don't like wearing lipstick, it doesn't suit me at all, and makes me look like a drag queen, lol! I also resent that fact that most women feel the need to plaster their faces with all these unnatural dyes and chemicals just because that's how society is pressurising them to look. Most people look much better without any make up at all, we've just been conditioned to think that we don't. A thoughtful answer can prompt further comments and turn the post into a proper discussion. But I agree, with these kinds of discussions it is a bit annoying that the original poster didn't have more imagination, and that they weren't the one to provoke the discussion. This should be reflected in their earnings, even though they probably imagine that they'll earn more with lots of one sentence questions of this kind.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
We need a way to educate the new people here! This is now truly a global community and there should be more posts that interests all, if possible! Local, gender based, or yes no questions are becoming the morn here, or it seems that way to me! Of course I can turn a simple question in to something much more, but then i think about the person that did the post and usually blow it off! tdemex
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@liquorice (3901)
5 Nov 09
You're right! Although I thought the guidelines and FAQs were supposed to do that... Maybe we should start a new interest group called "myLot 101" (or maybe a different title if someone can think of a better one). And put helpful discussions about how to get the best out of myLot in there. If that's not too patronising..
• Melbourne, Australia
4 Nov 09
I think more I am getting annoed at the ones that are like... What did you do today? That that's all. I think of a few things.... why do they care? Why do they want to know? And is it going to help them in a way if I tell them? Most of the time I just skim right over the question & move on. But yes the ones like pepsi or coke really are boring.
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@jazzsue58 (2668)
4 Nov 09
I'm most likely to reply to discussions that are 3 - 4 lines long. I skip over the really long ones, especially if there are no paragraph breaks - and the short one-liners aren't worth my finger tips.
@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
Apri, I do to or I'll leave some sarcastic remark hoping it might make them think a little bit! LOL! It's a losing battle here but we'll keep pushing on! I'm got a new Idea I'm putting out today, stay tuned! tdemex
@thezone (9447)
• Ireland
4 Nov 09
Hi tdemex, It can be very mind numbing indeed having to wade through those type of discussions which in my opinion not discussions and I have noticed more and more of them being started. But there is always a few little gems in myLot once you weed through the spam
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
that;s the problem! I've just reached the end of my rope looking and hitting the refresh button hoping something would popo-up! LOL! But I'm hanging in there, wishing things would go back o the way they used to be! tdemex
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@thezone (9447)
• Ireland
7 Nov 09
I think my refresh button has been worn out the last while
@Louc74 (620)
4 Nov 09
Hi, Tdemex. Well, I'm a newbie, as you'll see, but when I first signed up here, I thought I was posting quality discussion topics, but found nobody was replying. I love discussing all sorts, love hearing other peoples opinions - especially if they oppose my own: it's the spice! But I don't know if other posters thought my topics were boring, or if I'm just unpopular, or too opinionated, because nobody seemed to want to discuss. So I resorted to posting the most meaningless discussion I could think of - what would be your superpower. Then I noticed about a million discussions with similar titles - uh-oh! So now I just start a discussion if I think something is interesting enough, and I'm working on flicking off my paranoia switch so I don't feel like a leper if nobody responds! And I respond to the ones I'm honestly interested in, and to the friends I've made so far. So yeah, I think some people are just here to make money, but I'd go for quality, every time.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
4 Nov 09
Well I must say your on the right track. the only thing you should've done was ask for help! Hint: take advise from people with lots of posts and high star numbers, they have the experience to give good advise! Also make these people your friends, sort of a mentor type thing! I see newbies here making friends with other newbies and giving each other incorrect advise! LOL! This place is something else! You should just give responses when you fist get here and learn the system, make friends as I said above, people notice good responders and they will come to your posts! Look at mine!
@Louc74 (620)
4 Nov 09
Ahhhh, right! So I hit the ground sprinting in here, when I should have been at the crawling stage. That's the story of my life - I can be a bit of a speedy clutz in real life as well! Lol! Thanks, Tdemex - sound advice. :D
@dawnald (84213)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Nov 09
What color did you say your hair was? heck, I don't even bother looking at discussions like that any more. My discussions may not be everybody's cup of tea, and that's fine, but at least I like to think there's some originality there...
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
You do great here! Keep up the good work it's the other 30% that need a little coaching! I'm so tired of looking for something good to respond to it's exhausting sometimes! the old days I couldn't keep up! We need a newbie refresher course! tdemex
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@dawnald (84213)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Nov 09
Dang, I'm 70% of myLot? Dawn pats self on back and walks off to think of another discussion...
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@much2say (45152)
• Los Angeles, California
3 Nov 09
Well, I suppose one could turn those types of discussions into good quality discussions - depending on how they respond. I mean, if I FELT like answering what shade of lipstick I liked, I would probably stretch my answer to the fullest. I would state the color . . . and then maybe the brand of lipstick I liked, why I liked it, how it goes with my complexion, and maybe what lipstick shades I don't care for. Heck, if the discussion itself isn't "quality", I might as well make my response "quality". I tend to gab away in writing . . . so I just write in length naturally (so it works out perfectly for me in myLot). It seems many people ARE here to just post for the sake of making their earnings. Many of the same people are asking why it is taking so long to make it to their first payout. They haven't made the connection that one word / one liners don't get you very far - so more than likely, they will drop from the scene in frustration sooner or later. I do look at friend's/people's profiles and I like to respond to their discussions . . . but if I find a pattern of silly one liners or that they don't respond to their discussions (like I'm talking to a wall) - then I remember their name and just don't bother with them anymore.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Well ya I can dance around posts also "How tall are you" That was a winner, Well when I was 3 I was 26" then at 6 I was 4feet! But that's not the point! As far as people leaving I ran across a gal the other day that had 2100 posts ans still hadn't reached payout yet! Will they ever get a clue no one knows! tdemex
@much2say (45152)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Nov 09
Are you serious? That's really sad if that person hasn't reached their first payout at 2100. ! Well, that makes me feel good that I must be doing something right - ha ha. I'd have to agree . . . the point is there are many pointless discussions out there. But I must admit some of them are fun to answer just for the heck of it (the gabber in me says that) . . . and at times I will also give a pointless response back.
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• Philippines
3 Nov 09
hello tdemex, Nothing really changed i supposed, i still see that kind of topics every now and then. as for me, i tried to create some decent and serious ones, but it seems it's only a few people understand it but still respond and tell they don't understand the topic. so, most people prefer to go at it on simpler ones.the one topic that annoys me is sports. if only mylot were doing some warnings instead of just deleting topics that they see with their naked eye...
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Well the purpose of a post is to start a discussion, at least it used to be! I've been in some that have went on for a long time! Now it seems I can respond with "I wear an 11 sized shoe" and that's it LOL! Boy I sure miss the good old days! tdemex
• Philippines
4 Nov 09
it's not the same thing anymore i supposed.
@marguicha (165851)
• Chile
3 Nov 09
Hi gringo, I´m not going to ask you what shade of lipstick you wear.And I agree with you although I have seen very good posts here too. Maybe it depends on the interests you put at mylot. But I remember a question I asked about gardening when I was new here. No responses. Then, to check, I made a post about what is your favorite lettuce. Lots of answers! It seems many people are here just to earn some money (a legit reason anyway) but are not particulary interested in learning about other people and other ideas. At firt I also checked and got involved in two subjects I´m interested about: religion (or better said spirit) and politics. But I soon discovered that if I shared my ideas I would reach the bottom as stars are concerned and probably get kicked out of mylot any minute. So I read them but don´t say anything unless I am provoked. Maybe mylot should have more inspectors (of sorts) with so many members. It´s not fair that I get a lot of responses (and cents) if I comment for asking about Pepsi and that I don´t get more money for thoughtful answers. Take care!
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
I don't think you do get more, it all depends on how much you type! that's the bottom line! but creating more posts that require a thoughtful response is what this site is supposed to be about! I like you did a post about mixed couples and the first time I posted it I got maybe 6 responses, 6 months later I posted one on the same topic and got 72 responses! Go Figure Mylot is a fickle place but come on people have better brains than some of the choices I've seen lately to respond to! I seems like some of them are in a race, I'll see one person post 6 in 5 minutes? WTF? Now how can those be quality thoughtful posts? tdemex (Gringo)
@marguicha (165851)
• Chile
3 Nov 09
I know what you mean! For me sometimes is difficult to start one post. But some people are pro post makers. Only their posts are as shallow as one can see. And it´s true that it´s just luck whether you recieve lots of good responses or a few bad ones. I often think that it might thepend on the hour. I´m sure there are certain hours where there are more people at mylot but I don´t know what´s the besut one. marguicha
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@proxima14 (196)
• Philippines
3 Nov 09
I know I start a new discussion whenever I need additional information, advice or suggestions from other people. I'm not really sure for other mylotters' reason for starting a discussion but I am hoping that for some of them, they needs suggestions. Some of these discussion may seemed to be useless to others, but some of us can get something out of that certain topic too. For example, I'm the type of person who doesn't know much about fashion but I wanted to look good everyday so I often wonder what other people wear and if I find something similar, I might get it and wear it. It might not interest other people but somehow, someone out there might actually be able to help me. *though most of the time, I posts these questions in my facebook account or other forums*. But that's just me and this is just my two cents.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Thanks! But I think your missing the whole point of this site! that's my two cents! tdemex
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@mysdianait (65052)
• Italy
3 Nov 09
In order to make this box worth a bit more, I will add my two cents too For a topic to become a 'discussion' the user who starts it must go back and animate it by commenting on the responses that it receives. If that doesn't happen it cannot even be considered as a discussion. No matter how banal or intricate the topic is, with no comments it is only a question and answer and will never be considered as a 'quality discussion'.
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• United States
4 Nov 09
These type of totally uninteresting blah discussion are strictly from the users that are only using myLot to earn their one cent and IMO are also only responded to by the same type of user. These are the peoples who will never be added to my friends list.
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@tdemex (3545)
• United States
5 Nov 09
I usually accept newbies friends requests! But I watch them and when they do this i delete them fast! LOL! Thanks T-----