Parents Who Raised or Produced a Killer!

@lelin1123 (15635)
Puerto Rico
November 8, 2009 12:33pm CST
I was thinking about all the horrors of the world that has happened in the past decades and still continues. From JFK, MLK, RFK assassinations, the crimes against children, crimes against women, Columbine Massacre, Oklahoma City Bombing, Fort Hood Massacre, Orlando, Florida Office Killing, what are the parents thinking of their children that have committed these horrific crimes? Is it in the genes or enviromental? Is it a combination of both? How do they feel knowing they have created a monster and are they able to go on with their own lives? Thoughts or comments are welcomed.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
9 Nov 09
I am sure that the parents are horrified that their son turned out the way he did. I am sure that they did all they could in trying to raise a good child, but no matter how they tried to stop him from throwing the kitten in the pond, by hitting their little brother or sister with a rock, by blackmailing the other children, or by screaming and throwing a violent tantrum that hurt someone, that child may have been a bad seed. We are all born with the ability to commit horrible crimes, but God in HIS mercy restrains us. And one of HIS restraints is to put in part of our brain a section that tells right or wrong. However, sometimes through an accident in the birth canal or elsewhere like an accident that damages the brain, the child becomes a psychopath. then there is also that the parent raises him like one, as in the case of Ma Barker. It could be both, but then the ones that raised their children to be killers would feel no remorse, only the parents who raised their children proper and they turned bad.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
9 Nov 09
A parent can raise a child the right way and the child grows up to be a killer. A child can be raised by really bad parents and come out a champion. Thank God for the most part we don't raise killers nor do our children become killers. I just know if it was my child who ended up a killer I would not be able to live with this on my shoulders. Thank you for responding.
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@suspenseful (40312)
• Canada
10 Nov 09
I would think that it was my fault. I guess that is what being a mother is, blaming ourselves for something that may have been an accident or something that was inside the child from the first and had nothing to do with us. That is why when parents find out that their child is a murderer, they get help so that they do not become overwrought with needless guilt. The only ones that should feel guilty are the Ma Barker types who spoiled their children rotten and let their children get away with murder.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
12 Nov 09
Oh my goodness I never heard about her. What a thing to do to our kids. Sinful Thanks for the info.
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@mobhomeir (7562)
• Philippines
9 Nov 09
Hello lelin those heinous crimes were not only happening in your country but also in place. That includes raping children and even sexagenarians. These crimes never happened before if we look back decades back. It is horrifying to think. Even in our own backyard are no longer safe to stay. There are lots of factors that contribute to this situation. This happens mostly on third countries or developing nations that has higher rate on unemployment. Some are due to bad and poor development of the children in their neighborhood or shall we say depends on the environmental upbringing of the children that they carried on and on until their adulthood.And, the "legacy" lives on. What the bad doings of the parents that were seen by the children would most likely right for them (the children). I think each of our government would find ways to prevent this to avoid the worst scenario that might be coming in our next generations... Every parents should be aware of this... Thanks for this topic...this is interesting one...keep it up..
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@mobhomeir (7562)
• Philippines
9 Nov 09
...........I mean in our place...
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@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
9 Nov 09
All the main crimes I mentioned happened on american soil. As for crimes against children and woman yes that happens all over the world. Thank you for your comment and your interest. Have a great peaceful week.
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@mansha (6301)
• India
9 Nov 09
I read a story by a mother of child who went on a shooting rampage in his school while family had no clue, Its a heart warming story and really makes you think, it could be me in her shoes. It has been ten years and mother is still trying to find out what went wrong and has turned herself over to preventing any more such incidents. read the story here http://www.oprah.com/article/omagazine/200911-omag-susan-klebold-columbine Do read it and tell me what you think.
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@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
10 Nov 09
Yes that was the columbine massacre that happened 10 years ago. She is doing something good with what has happened but most don't do anything but hide in their homes ashamed. I'm glad she found something worthy to do with her grief.
@deebomb (15315)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I don't believe that any parent raises their kids to be assassins or serial killers. I don't believe that it is in the genes or the environment either. Al though if a person tends toward being a killer the environment can become a factor. Sometime something just goes wrong with the wiring in the brain. sometime kids raised in the best environments go wrong and a lot of kids raised in poor environments turn out very well. The parents of Major Nidal Malik Hasan were very up set at what their son did and they apologized for him. Alla parent can do is raise their kids the best they know how and hope for the best. After that it is up to the kids.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
9 Nov 09
Thank you for your response.
@cher913 (25859)
• Canada
8 Nov 09
although these parents may have raised the child to know good and evil, everyone is responsible for their own actions once they reach adulthood. i am sure the parents regret what the child has done but telling a child what to do in every single step of their lives isnt right either.
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@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
I agree you need to let your child have space and spread their wings. If parents are to controlling that can manifest a problem later in life for child. Thanks for responding.
@JenInTN (27545)
• United States
10 Nov 09
Hi lelin! I think that mental illness is genetic and I also think that abuse and neglect can create a monster. I also think that at some age there comes a choice where you can't really blame the parents anymore. I think that the parents of these kind of people are devastated. I think that their idea of what they were going to be and what they become are two very different things.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
10 Nov 09
Yes I totally agree with you. What parent wants their child to grow up to be a killer? I just can't imagine what the parents lives become after this happens and how do they go on. Thanks for responding.
@cyrus123 (6364)
• United States
10 Nov 09
It might be a little bit of both. It's so awful, I know! I imagine it's very hard on their parents. Some of them are probably to blame for the way their children turn out. However, I'm sure there are others who tried to raise their hildren right. They are probably heart broken. Kathy.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
10 Nov 09
I'm sure most parents would be heart broken wondering where they went wrong. What I don't understand is how people commit these crimes and then have to face their parents. That alone would scare me from ever doing anything wrong. Thanks so much for responding.
@trisha27 (3495)
• United States
9 Nov 09
I would think that probably the parents of these killers and murders would be so embarrassed, but no matter what if they are normal parents, it wouldn't matter what they're child did, although they have murdered people, they would stand by them. I know if I were a parent (I'm not, but if I were) I would be disappointed and embarrassed. But I wouldn't shun out my child or anything. I don't think that it is in the genes, but maybe it could be environmental and how they were brought up and raised. How they were raised and were they were raised. How their parents brought them up and stuff like that.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
9 Nov 09
Thank you for your response.
@dodo19 (42558)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
8 Nov 09
It's difficult to say at times what exactly caused these individuals to become who they are. In some cases, I must agree that the parents are partly responsible for making their children become who they are. However, I don't think that this is the case for all of them. There are other things, which affect them. There are times, when the parents actually aren't responsible in turning their child into a criminal, a murder, or something like that. The society and environment that they grow up definitely has an effect on these individuals, as it is the case for all of us. The society and environment that we grow up affect who we become, for better or for worse. There are so many things that determines who we become in the end.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
Yes at times it could be a gene that causes such bad behavior. People who are just born evil like a bad seed. However, I think it has more to do with society and the enviroment that the person lives in. Thanks for responding.
@ANTIQUELADY (36468)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I personally think it all begins at home. I feel the way children grow up to act is how they are raised.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
Sometimes but I think it also has to do with society and the enviroment they live in. There are to many parents that never saw it coming at all and don't understand why. Thanks for responding.
@sirnose (2439)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I think that upbringing and environmental factors play a role in the shaping of these individuals, but, I also think there is a sinister outside evil present that perpetuate these person to go "Postal". Everyone should stop and think how we treat each other,we all must find ways to make our world more hospitable for all people regardless of race or ideology, and the goal should be to find the truth and understand, why? So many people take this route to resolved a problem. My hopes and best wishes goes out to the victims and their families. ...
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
I agree with you totally! Thanks for responding.
@savypat (20244)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I have often wondered how not only the parents, but whole families cope with having a killer as a member. Would you think back about everytiem you were with that person and if you missed some type of feeling or actions that just might have changed their history. That's what I would do especially right at first. It's hard to accept that there is some necessary reason that they did what they did and that there is also some reason you are part of a killers life.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
Yes for me it would be a scary thing to know a family member one way and then find out that he is a killer. That would be very hard to swallow and deal with. Thanks for responding.
@rg0205 (2638)
• Hong Kong
8 Nov 09
Sometimes it's the fault of the parents. Sometimes, it isn't. There are many cases where killers are the product of an abusive and unhappy childhood. That's the easiest explanation. What scares me the most though is when they came from a perfectly normal childhood. There are some who come from good homes but somehow they turned into monsters, in spite of how well their upbringing was. That, to me, is scarier because it just doesn't make any sense.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
Yes I agree with you. I was just watching a true story on TV about a guy who's parents were teachers in the community and he the son had a great upbringing. Never any type of problems. The family was well liked in the entire community. People looked up to this family. Well the son ends up killing his wife and son. Says it was an accident but he pushed them over a cliff. Then he asks a friend to kill his parents. Lucky thing the friend went to the police. Not so long after he was arrested for killing his wife, son and the attempted murder of his parents. This story was horrible, when he the son, had a perfectly good unbringing. What made him snap I wonder. Thanks for responding.
@wlee9696 (595)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I can't say what makes a killer - probably a combination of upbringing and society. Sometimes parents have a direct effect- child abuse, neglect, deviant behavior themselves. Sometimes they don't. I would think that you would love your child regardless of what they did simple because it's your child - you own flesh and blood. But then I guess if you neglected or abused your child you wouldn't care.
@lelin1123 (15635)
• Puerto Rico
8 Nov 09
You have a point there if the child had been abused o neglected. I guess in some way I would still love them but it would never be the same relationship. It would be changed completely. I'm sure I would not be able to go on knowing my child killed another human being. The guilt alone would kill me. Thanks for responding.