Food for thought.

@loudcry (1043)
India
November 14, 2009 11:59pm CST
What do you thind about this quote? "The first divine was the first rogue who met the first fool" Voltaire This quote pretty much sums the origin of God and religion. What do you mylotters whink?
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@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
15 Nov 09
May be you are right. But I look at it as the first eloquent statement, er, should I call it an aphorism on Atheism, from the most pursuasive writer of the French Revolution days/
@loudcry (1043)
• India
15 Nov 09
I beleive god/religion was invented by someone with political ambitions. It is easier to command obedience from people in the name of god.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
15 Nov 09
I am also curious to know weather mylot will delete this discussion.
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@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
16 Nov 09
I don't think they are that closed minded!
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• United States
15 Nov 09
I believe the first Divine was He who put us here. What rogues, fools or philosophers have done with translating that is another story entirely...
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
16 Nov 09
This is a more acceptable form of religion.
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@harshadod (858)
• India
17 Nov 09
The fool came before the divine or the rogue invented the fool. There can be a differentiation made between the origin of God and origin of religion. God is unreal while religion is real. It is in fact the absence of something "like" God which has led to the emergence of different religions. Whenever you have believers and followers for any leader, saint, scientific theories, etc you have created a religion. The followers do not wish for fresh independent thinking and are more wedded to the concept or rituals which already satisfies their curiosity or hedonistic need. The moment somebody questions the established pattern, he is a non-religious person. Evolutionarily the need for religion and acceptance is more survival driven. You are safe in a herd. You are protected by your own tribe and this resulted in strong tribal bonding. We still think the same way. What Voltaire has to say about 'divinity'? If i interpret from the above quote, he does not believe in any kind of divinity. To accept that our higher senses are driven towards equality in the midst of the great survival instinct, is a lie in itself. Unfortunately denial of natural instincts is 'divinity' for great maturity. People of 'strength'(of all kinds) devise various means to be in strength. Religion is one of the means devised.
@loudcry (1043)
• India
17 Nov 09
There are some studies that suggest that we are hard wired to beleive in god. That living in groups affords better survival chances gives us reason in terms of evolution.If it is instinctive, how do some us manage to switch of our beleif in god. I would like site the example of china here. Religion was banned in China under the mao and later regimes that followed maoism. Even when the restrictions were slowly removed,most chinese did not go back to religion. They were simply not raised to be religious. Maybe religion acquired.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
18 Nov 09
Maybe religion is acquired
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@harshadod (858)
• India
18 Nov 09
Communism or Maoismare also a form of religion. Religion is not restricted to Gos alone. It is any idea, leader etc which is followed rigidly without questioning. This trait is their to some extent in humans!!!!!!!!!
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
18 Nov 09
No, I've always figured that deities came about by a need to humanize the forces of nature. In other words, when a storm blew in that ruined crops, a god was angry, so it had to be appeased. That sort of thing. This particular quote portrays an unfortunate bias of many non-religious towards the religious. Of course, Voltaire was a deist, so I'm not too surprised.
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