LOyalty does not "exist"

Philippines
November 18, 2009 7:50am CST
Hello lotters, PLease Don't Hate me on this, I am only trying to point out something here. with all the break-ups and betrayals from friends,lovers,mates and family members, i believe this answers to that situations, probably the conclusion of it. of course, it does exist on other people, simply because they benefit from them like money or in kind help which allows them to remain at their finger-tips. It does feel sad when ever i see and hear people being stabbed in the back, or worse, killed. so, no further a-thou i just applied and believed this through the days of my life. what's wrong with that? it's true, isn't it. there's no point of denying it, because the more people are smart and rich the more they get to their own agenda, and throw you out once they're done with you or when you lived to your usefulness. This is "reality" i believed. have a great day.
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@repzkoopz (1895)
• Philippines
18 Nov 09
hmmmm.. i'm not going for a debate, i'll just voice out my opinion.. hehe.. loyalty does exist. and in every person lies such a virtue. but this doesn't necessarily mean i'm referring to "good" loyalty because there are tons of people extremely loyal to a wrong cause.. take for example terrorists.. they are so loyal to their cause that they are willing to kill and die for it. (and i'm not kidding on this one ) anyway.. on the lighter side, people do make mistakes. thats a fact! even the most loyal falls prey to temptation. in the end, what matters is how people react to that mistake, both the person who did the act and the offended person. for lovers, its up to them if they want to break up because of that mistake, or simply learn from it. for family members, well, theres always a problem or two within every family. but its up to them if they want that mistake to break their family ties, or simply talk it over and work things out.. making one mistake doesn't necessarily equate to not being loyal. it merely shows the weakness of humans to temptation.
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• Philippines
20 Nov 09
hello repz, no i don't want to start my own debate, no way. i just wanna voice out, mistakes can happen but people will start doubting you once you have made that mistake and starts to question that loyalty. well, it's obvious that it can happen in a family and some can never even show appreciation despite of your hard work or effort in gaining trust and showing loyalty to them. temptation is part of human nature, with out it, probably we ended up just like robots.
@repzkoopz (1895)
• Philippines
22 Nov 09
yep.. that usually becomes a problem once a mistake has been made. specially here with such conservative roots, trust becomes a huge factor. its also funny that sometimes, you don't even need to make mistakes. you only need to belong to a particular group or family, and people tend to think you're all alike. no matter how much you try and show your loyalty, some still think theres something hidden with your every action. ..sad isn't it?
• Philippines
19 Nov 09
And the reality is, you are a pessimist. It's true that sometimes, in our life we experience lies, dishonesty and the likes. But if you will look on the bright side, your bitterness might get lifted up and replaced by a much more good emotion. There's no use of thinking that you cannot trust anyone. So think about it friend.
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• Philippines
20 Nov 09
hi, is that your conclusion about me? you haven't really known the whole picture yet. well, too bad it has taught me not to trust anyone, they gave me a reason no to risk it since you're gonna be betrayed anyways. the bright side i think is that i can guard myself from people whom i think wants to benefit from you and throws you when they're done with you. and besides, i can't help it, with the world today, you just can't avoid it. but i don't think this way, how ever am well guarded, i am just afraid to loose guard.
• India
19 Nov 09
Well I must agree with you till a certain point…friends, mates, lovers, colleagues they all back-stab you to further their own purpose and to save yourself from that you need to remember where and when to draw the line in your daily interactions with these people. It is said that we love ourselves the most and from this love, stems the need to forge ahead and seal the best deal in any situation for myself, no matter how many people I stamp under my feet in the process. Its human nature and to some extent its good to be aggressive coz (I’ve seen) the meek and gentle and honest really get nowhere in today’s world. However, I’ve been lucky as far as my immediate family is concerned…I’ve no siblings so that rules out sibling rivalry and back-stabbing LOL, I’m my parents sole lifeline (so to speak) and my hubby (keeping fingers crossed here!)…he’s the best thing that’s happened to me LOL And one more thing….don’t overdo for anybody and don’t keep any expectations either
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• Philippines
20 Nov 09
hello sudip, i don't really have a sibling that back stabbed but the fact that they are quiet with their problems and refused to share it with me makes me think that they're loyalty is somewhere else, i guess i got used to not having too many problems in my problem. thanks for the lift, i guess from the certain point of time i did some over doing that lend me to falter.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Nov 09
Loyalty exists, but it can change. For example a marriage. You live with somebody, you love them, you're loyal to them. But over time things change. You change. The two of you don't change together. Maybe you hurt each other. Eventually, for your own sanity you have to leave. Maybe you left much later than you would have if it were not for loyalty. But loyalty cannot exist forever where there are betrayals of trust, loss of respect, loss of love. It's not always about people's agendas.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Nov 09
Sad but true. Thx for the BR.
• Philippines
20 Nov 09
hellow dawn, i guess this really answers something from my discussion. but i guess i was a bit arrogant that loyalty can be forever as long as there is love. that's one hard thing about people, they change and that's something you can't just get rid of, and when a person change, their loyalty to their partner changes too.
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@jheLaichie (4438)
• Philippines
18 Nov 09
in other words... we aint perfect... we are more good with this imperfections. and we aint growing humanly because of it as well. and that is truly reality. we have this crab mentality... always dragging people down. and the worst of all is that its better that we benefit for it and not minding how it will affect other people. but, what can i say we do this for us to live, right? am i saying some sense here? am i on the topic friend? miss you jhelai
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19 Nov 09
Being loyal doesn't mean being 100% honest to everyone in your life. In my case, I've been betrayed/cheated for so many times in my 21 years of life...but I think it's normal for a person to sometimes be like that. I hated people who cheated on me but found the courage to forgive them. I also admit that sometimes I am not loyal...but come on, is there anyone in this world who never did lie or cheat on someone or something? Loyalty does exists, it only depends on how a person defines it. ^_^
• Philippines
20 Nov 09
hello ghelai, it's not honest all the time, probably what i mean is that being on the person's side as long as you live or long term, you don't have to reveal everything to that person as long you are at that person's side, that's my interpretation of loyalty so that the person you are loyal to doesn't have to be suspicious and cautious of you.. i don't think not a single person here hasn't betrayed one of the other. yes, you can forgive, but you can never trust them again
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
19 Nov 09
It is true that it is difficult to find loyalty these days. It is in the game of love and life. We have adapt ourselves with these prevailing situations and move on with life journey.
• Philippines
19 Nov 09
Yes, You are really right, but there is a 10x karma. just pray them to God if they used you or something. Just do good and they will do good to you. but if you don't be good at them that's why they're stabbing at your back. I can't really explain it but I hope you understand what I really want to explain. :) Happy myLotting.
@mcowiti (232)
• Kenya
19 Nov 09
people have always replaced loyalty with hypocrisy and sycophancy. how can one claim to love you or be loyal to you then turns and betrays you? this shows that even in the first place they were not loyal and when this happens its better for you to read the wreiting on the wall and take off before its late.
• India
19 Nov 09
ya thats right...now a days u can trust ur enemy bcoz u know he will harm u and u can take preacutions against them but friends....u never know....they can also harm bt u wont be able to do anything....