Senator to Seniors: "YOU'RE GOING TO DIE SOONER!"

@anniepa (27510)
United States
December 2, 2009 9:19pm CST
To be more complete, he said "I have a message for you: You're going to die sooner." First we had Rep. Alan Grayson saying, "If you get sick, die quickly"; now a U.S. Senator decides to join in. Any comments? Is this remark every bit as outrageous as Grayson's or what? Annie
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• United States
3 Dec 09
It would be outrageous if there was not a grain of truth to the remarks. We (seniors) are not considered productive members of society and therefore not worth helping to prolong our lives.
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@anniepa (27510)
• United States
4 Dec 09
Whiteheather, how do you define "productive members of society"? As far as I'm concerned our seniors are among our greatest treasures. Those who are fortunate enough to be able to be retired have EARNED IT. Those who can't retire...I think it's an outrage that we can't do more for our seniors than we do. I can't forget those who have chosen not to retire because they love their work, I say good for them! Anyway, sorry for getting off-topic but I just want you to know I consider you well worth helping to prolong your life. Younger people can learn a great deal from our senior citizens. Regarding the whole health care debate, I just find it very unfortunate that either side feels the need to use fear-mongering to make their points. I KNOW I defended Rep. Grayson when he made his "Die quickly" remark but maybe he shouldn't have said it like that but by then it had already been going back and forth with nothing really being accomplished other than name-calling and people trying to shout over each other. My thoughts are that money could be saved in Medicare without cutting any services. Annie
• United States
4 Dec 09
Annie I received as response a while back for a young (27 year) male who said he did think his tax (medicare) dollars should go to supporting senior as we have nothing more to offer. Needless to say I was infuriated and informed him I had paid my Medicare taxes for more years than he had been alive! My biggest beef is also taking 400 billion dollars from Medicare to pay for this new health care proposal. It may not literally mean we are going to die now but it certainly will reduce the care available to prolong our lives.
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• United States
4 Dec 09
oops sorry all wrong ...should read I receieved a response from a young man who said his Medicare tax dollars should NOT go to senior care....
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@bestboy19 (5481)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Unless they are responsible for the killing, how does anyone know when someone is going to die? I think it's just as silly for a senator to predict a persons life expectancy as it is for a doctor.
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@anniepa (27510)
• United States
4 Dec 09
How about a Senator who is also a doctor...lol? Annie
@bestboy19 (5481)
• United States
4 Dec 09
That's just as silly.
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• United States
4 Dec 09
..it sounds logical to me that less money for medicare means less health care for seniors and the disabled..
@flowerchilde (12534)
• United States
5 Dec 09
I can't help but think that the idea that cuts to medicare will only be cutting back on fraud, is outrageous that anyone could fall for that.. eventually it'll be all government care/insured like medicare and there will be more fraud and waste in the healthcare system than there ever has been.. to say nothing of the massive red tape we'll all be waiting on.. (well most anyway)
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@anniepa (27510)
• United States
11 Dec 09
For what it's worthy, I understand there's far less "red tape" to go through with Medicare than there is for many insurance companies. I've heard that from providers. Annie
@ZephyrSun (7382)
• United States
3 Dec 09
I could imagine that it really is close to the truth but, one never knows. My great grandmother lived til 106 so there are exceptions to the rules LOL
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Is this a joke Annie? You CHEERED for Grayson when he said Republicans wanted you to die quickly if you got sick. Suddenly a republican says something remotely similar and you consider it outrageous. All your double standards are starting to make me dizzy. Either way, the context of this was far different. Grayson said republicans WANT you to die quickly. His statement was based solely on his hatred of republicans and his desire to demonize his opponents. Senator Coburn, an obstetrician, made his statement based on the fact that this bill has more than $400 billion in Medicare cuts to home health providers, hospitals, hospices and others. He feels those cuts would decrease the quantity and quality of care for seniors who need medicare which is why he supports an amendment that would remove such medicare cuts. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/02/gop-senator-youre-going-die-sooner-dem-health-plan/
@anniepa (27510)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Do you even READ my discussions, Taskr, or can't you wait to start typing your rude responses? I asked the question of whether this was AS outrageous as Grayson's remarks and I didn't even mention his name or his party. Grayson didn't say Republicans "want" us to die quickly, he said that's what their health plan is. Since THEY HAVE NONE I must say he's right! Also, PLEASE DO NOT provide a link from Fox News as a source because I don't believe their hate-filled propaganda. You and I both know he's misrepresenting the "cuts" to Medicare just like McCain, who's done a complete 180 since the campaign when he spoke of making MORE "cuts" to Medicare and Medicaid than the bill calls for. The bill deals mostly with "Medicare Advantage" and also with FRAUD and WASTEFUL SPENDING, not cutting services. Annie
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
3 Dec 09
Actually republicans do have a health care plan. I believe you yourself started a thread bashing it. You can insult Fox News all you want, but if you actually read the link you'd see they clearly show both sides of the story and include Baucus's defense against McCain's and Coburn's accusations. Perhaps I shouldn't fault you, you're just following Obama's marching orders and attacking Fox News whenever you can.
@anniepa (27510)
• United States
4 Dec 09
The HOUSE Republicans did propose their own plan which cost more and did less than the Democrats' but that was AFTER Grayson's remarks. Forgive me for typing "don't" instead of "didn't" or whatever. I don't follow any orders from anyone as far as what to watch or where to get my news. Annie
@Thoroughrob (11748)
• United States
3 Dec 09
It is outrageous, but if this healthcare goes through it is the truth. It is scary.