I think this one is going to get a lot of different opinions

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
December 17, 2009 10:54am CST
I read this on the marriage builders website that I've been looking at. It had to do with "annoying behavior". Woman writes in that her husbands eating is driving her up the wall. She can't stand the chewing noises he makes. She feels stupid for making such a big deal about such a little thing, but it just irritates her to the point that it is causing problems in her marriage. The counselor's response wasn't what I expected at all. He said that it was easier for the husband to change his behavior than it was for her to stop being irritated at it. It kind of reminded me of the Chinese water torture where an innocent little drip of water, given enough time, drives a person to their breaking point. So do you agree with the counselor? Or do you think the woman is making a big deal out of nothing and should figure out how to live with it? Or should she try and work with her husband to stop making the noise?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Dec 09
He always ate like that. It only started to annoy her when he annoyed her. If he learns to eat politely he'll still annoy her. How can anyone be expected to live with someone who is the annoyance.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
No reason to believe from the letter that there are other annoyances. I think this is the only really bad thing for her...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Maybe they're both annoying and deserve each other.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
17 Dec 09
She's just fixating on one. She should face it he's annoying. Of course she could be equally annoying too.
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• United States
17 Dec 09
The response of the counselor is a little surprising, but it makes sense, especially if there are not really any other issues in their marriage. If she was asking him to change a bunch of things or he could not change his eating habits due to a physical condition, then I think it would be a different matter entirely. If that really is what is bothering her and he can change it, then I do not see what the problem would be, especially if it was that big of a deal in their marriage. It might seem like a small thing, but I really dislike it when people open their mouths and chomp while eating, because not only does it make a disgusting noise but also you can see all the chewed food in their mouths. It usually turns my stomach and makes it difficult for me to eat. If that is her issue, then I can totally relate, and it is something that would be difficult for her to overcome but something that he could easily fix.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Me too and my husband....
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Yes, as long as it's not due to a physical problem. And then maybe they could eat in different rooms or something....
• United States
17 Dec 09
If it was due to something that he can't change, then eating in a separate room might be a good solution to the problem. I would use that as a last resort, though. I know that it might sound corny and "old fashioned", but I was brought up that meals, especially dinner, are eaten together at the kitchen table as a means of family bonding. We would talk about our day, any issues that we had, plans for the week, whatever, but it was a time for the whole family to get together and talk about whatever. It kind-of seems counterproductive, since we were never allowed to talk with food in our mouths, so it might have taken longer for us to finish the meal, but it was worth it. I passed that tradition down to my oldest daughter, and she plans on doing it with her family some day, as I hope my youngest (and any other children I might have) will do, also.
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@livewyre (2450)
18 Dec 09
The counselor is of course right in one respect. It IS easier for her husband to mend his ways as she is already irritated and cannot easily change that fact. However, the very idea that she should find this, of all things SO irritating tells us a couple of things: 1. The husband does very little wrong... 2. The wife is easily irritated or wound up about some other aspect of their relationship which just surfaces as this irritation... My wife sometimes tells me off if I make a noise eating - why cannot this woman do the same? Sounds to me like the two parties have drifted apart somewhere along the line and forgotten why they are together in the first place. Makes me wonder if I could earn the same money as this counselor I wonder how many wives here on MyLot would happily change their partner for one who did nothing worse than eating in an irritating manner...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
Went back and read the article, the wife is very sensitive to eating sounds. Maybe music would help. And yep, if that is his only annoying habit, I'm sure lots of women here would stand in line.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
24 Dec 09
I have a friend who eats with his mouth open and speaks with food in his mouth. He takes a tiny nibble of something he's never tried and shovels in stuff he likes. He spits out things he doesn't want. It's disgusting and I will no longer have him over for dinner. I still feed him occasionally but not while I'm eating and not where I can see him because he makes me want to gag. If he asks me something while I have food in my mouth I make a big thing out of chewing and swallowing before I answer so he gets the hint. He doesn't. So now, I tell him to close his mouth and not to talk while he has food in his mouth. I don't think he will ever change and neither will the husband in question. I don't think the woman is making a big deal about things at all. That would be enough to destroy my marriage. Bad MsTickle. I'm so glad I'm not closer to my friend.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Dec 09
Reading the article certainly puts things in a different perspective. I disagree with your take on it Dawn...the problem is hers but it is the husband who is at fault.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Dec 09
lol Well in this case, turns out it's not the husband's problem, it's the wife's. See the link under response #27 if you want to read the article!
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I bet she heard him do that before they were married, If people could just realixe u can't change them after u marry them they would be alot better off. I had the samr problems after i married , not the chewing thing but others. That's why i am not married now. They wouldn't chane to suit me. That has been over 30 years ago & according to what i hear from his sister he's still doing the same things that drove me nuts, lol.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
She is sensitive to chewing sounds. He isn't chewing that loudly. I got that when I went back and reread the article again (see the link under response 27). So I think the problem is more hers and maybe she should try playing music or sitting farther away or something.
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@Robinino (38)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I feel that they both should try to work something out on both sides. I mean come on, some people have little ticks that they have had for years and some of them do not even know they are doing it. The guy I live with chews on his fingers constantly and spits it out on the floor. Annoying? oh yeah, I have talked with him about it and it is a habit he has had all his life and he just can not break from it. I just try to block it out of my mind and sometimes say "i hope your not spitting that at me". He apologizes and tries to stop doing it. It only last for so long, all I can say is for them to try and work it out. If it keeps happening then they should occupy themselves in the other room. Like his chewing, if it irritates her that bad, go in another room and do something. It is not difficult to find other means to distance herself for the little time he is eating. If they want to eat together, I don't know, listen to music or the television while eating. Maybe that will drown out the sounds.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
Music is a good idea or even earplugs!
@nannacroc (4049)
17 Dec 09
He needs to stop. Mr Croc occasionally is a noisy eater and it drives me mad. He has managed to change, if it's something that irritates, it's the irritator that should stop.
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@nannacroc (4049)
17 Dec 09
You're right Mr P1ke,I have had to take to locking him upstairs except when he is needed for shopping or hoovering.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
17 Dec 09
But you just want him to stop altogether Nanna. Give him his little peccadillos.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Little ones OK, but maybe this is a big one?
@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
17 Dec 09
Perhaps the husband has ill-fitting dentures, or needs dental work. This Post leaves a lot to the imagination. Where was this woman when they were dating? Did the husband eat like a pig then? Why didn't it bother her at that time? If this is something that has happened recently it may be fixable, but if it has been an ongoing thing this woman needs to get over it. Perhaps she can serve his meals in the dining room while she eats in the kitchen.
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• United States
18 Dec 09
I really like your answer Peaceful! It makes the most sense. She is probably not loving him as much anymore so this chewing thing is something that she can use as a reason to get crabby....
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Yes it could be something like that. Far as I recall, it's always bothered her, but it's just gradually gotten to be something she just can't tolerate any more. I'm sure she should have spoken up early on.
• United States
18 Dec 09
This reminds me of something I read years ago along the lines of: when newly in love or truly in love, nothing about the other person bothers us...they could eat and dribble down their chin and it would be adorable. But if problems arise or love fades away, the very way a person breathes...everything about them....then becomes an intolerable annoyance. Food for thought :)
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
17 Dec 09
Marry the counselor. He's got all the answers. Annoying little twerp.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
17 Dec 09
Of course not. He's a man. That's what we do and why you divorce us having loved us first of course often because of those funny little ways that at first endeared and now frustrate. Did you notice my lack of punctuation?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Hang on, I need to go and get a red pencil. :-)
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Yes but can he discontinue his annoying behavior?
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
18 Dec 09
Well it wouldn't hurt for the husband to change, I mean he's probably looking like a fool in public if he's doing that. See, the problem to me is the doc is expecting the wife to tell the husband "Well, the doc says you have to change, not me!" I mean, honestly, no matter how you put it to your husband, he's not going to change because you tell him to. How long has this wife already been trying to change her husband's habit? I'm sure she's brought it up to him thousands of times. So how does this doc expect to get the husband to change without the doc confronting the husband himself?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
I think he's expecting them to work together on it. But if you go back and read the article (see response 27, I found the link and posted it there), it does appear as if he's not chewing all that loudly and she's just hypersensitive to chewing noises. I vote for earplugs or music or perhaps eating separately...
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
18 Dec 09
This type of thing can drive a marriage into the ditch! I’m going through a similar situation because of my husband’s snoring and my lack of sleep! It has driven us to sleep in separate rooms and my husband has tried everything from over the counter spray and nose clips to spending the night in a sleep clinic. Of course sleeping in separate rooms has created other problems as you can imagine! These irritations seem trivial but can lead to serious problems if left unattended. I think the solution is to recognise the problem and make the effort together to resolve it. In the case of the woman annoyed by the husband’s eating, I guess he should make the effort to eat more politely and she is going to have to ease up on it a little although that is probably impossible for her!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
After reading the article again, she is very sensitive to any eating noises, so it may be a matter of earplugs or something.
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@sunnycool (12714)
• India
18 Dec 09
if she really loved her husband then she wouldnt have gone that long.In this world nothing is so perfect so it would be upto ones mentality of taking the things into their view.If they can see the positive things then life would be happy else you half of your life would be completed dedicated to criticsing others which would do no good to her.I think she got to speak to her husband that she really doesnt like those sounds so that he can control those sounds which would be good for both.gud day.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
Maybe she didn't speak up because she did love her husband and she didn't want to hurt his feelings. People do that...
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
18 Dec 09
She should discuss it with her husband and tell him it upsets her. If he truly loves her he will try to mend his ways or even suggest that she finishes her food first so that he can sit 'peacefully' and have a ball of a time. If he likes to eat the way he does why should he be deprived of that pleasure
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
I think music or earplugs might help. Went back to the original article and it doesn't look as if he's chewing all that loudly. She's just sensitive.
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• United States
18 Dec 09
I really believe that the best thing to do is to talk to your husband about this and hopefully he will listen and try to stop eating that way. It is a habit and habits can be broke.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
You are right though in this case, I think the wife may be very sensitive to sounds and he may not be eating all that loudly.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
18 Dec 09
I was at my client's yesterday and she wanted some gum, that I picked up for her. She happily opened it and started chewing. With her mouth open. Noisily... I asked - maybe should say, snapped, if she could chew with her mouth shut. "I wasn't aware I was doing it" she said. It probably is that the husband had NO idea that he's doing anything annoying and might be willing to change if he loves his wife.
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@ElicBxn (63235)
• United States
18 Dec 09
one can hope for the former and not the latter, but if it is, maybe she needs to have a word or two again with him and if that fails, start really nagging....
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
see the link under response #27, that will clarify the situation...
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
That's very possible. Or possibly she's mentioned it before and is really irritated because he just doesn't "get" how very annoying it really is to her.
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@DawGwath (1042)
• Romania
17 Dec 09
This is why I'll never get married . This way, my partner won't have to stand my "annoying behaviours" if they would occur sometime in our relationship. At least no judge would be involved
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@DawGwath (1042)
• Romania
18 Dec 09
Uhm, yeah but I'm usually the kind of person who doesn't get all freaked out over little stuff, although chewing noises do scratch my ear too. It's a sensible subject actually, even if I thought otherwise. I think that you can't generalize and in most cases you have to dig deep into details to see what can be done and what not. Like in this case, what would be easier, for the man to stop doing chewing noises or for the woman to become used to it? We all know that most behaviours are pretty hard to change, especially if the man believes there's nothing wrong with his chewing. Also, if you hate a sound, you simply hate it, no need for reasoning there. But if you would dig deep down, maybe you could find some weird behaviours in the woman's life too. I believe this way they could cancel each other out and they would both understand how annoying they are and stop doing it, or they could just get on with their lives thinking "we both have issues, so... whatever". Pfft, theories.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
You won't have to stand their annoying behaviors either! :-)
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
if you check out response 27, I found the link to the article. In this case, it appears that the woman is just extra sensitive to chewing noises...
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
17 Dec 09
hi dawnald I think the sqeauking whell gets the grease, so wife should tell her husband the truth, that his eating is driving her crazy. after all it becomes torture after so many minutes. tell him. work with him and a counselor if necessary. little things can really annoy so much.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
17 Dec 09
typo city wow squeaking wheel. my fingers are off kilter today.lol.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
It's kind of like snoring, I guess. They can probably eat separately if necessary...
• United States
18 Dec 09
lol
@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
18 Dec 09
I think it needs to be a compromise - maybe the husband could try to change his eating habbits (especially if they are the type where he chews with his mouth open and all the grossness) But if its a case of a dental issue then its harder for him to change.(for example i have a friend who has a gap between their lower teeth and upper teeth in the front you could stick your finger between her teeth and not get bit - orthodontics helped that now its a pinky finger not your thumb but she still makes more noise eating that people with out a gap) She could try and be a bit more understanding. Leave when hes snacking (not at meal time its not fun to eat alone) so she doesnt have to listen.... I know my sister says hearing other people eat drives her nuts when shes not eating too so when she has to listen to others eat she either leaves the room or just joins everyone with snacking.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Dec 09
Go back to response 27, I posted the link to the article, which I finally was able to locate again. I don't think he's really making annoying noises so much as she is just sensitive to chewing sounds. I suspect that music or ear plugs or just eating father apart would help a lot.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
26 Dec 09
Read the article honestly i felt ticked on the husbands behalf - from the letter the woman wrote hes alreadyt TRYING to not annoy her and made adjustments however the person responding talks about him as if hes a child or a pet to be retrained. Just reading that i felt that the woman was being oversensitive.
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@saundyl (9783)
• Canada
26 Dec 09
oH AND AS a side note the "doctor" didnt happen to point out that the woman herself might have habits that annoy her husband and that she should be willing to change her habits as well. It really seemed to me like she was being told to change her husband and expect him to suck it up with her own bad habits.
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
17 Dec 09
I just read a great article on this which said when a partner is pushing your buttons, step back and view the problem as a challenge. A large part of the partnership is growth on both your parts. Hubby just drives me up the wall with several things he does and he knows it. Well I've decided to drive around the block instead of up the wall, that way I have time to come back with a new view point before I just react. Blessings
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
I do think you need to plan your approach tactfully. Rather than attacking head on, "ooh that's so annoying you jerk", something like "that really bothers me, would you be OK with not doing it" will probably work much better. The other person may not be receptive though.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
19 Dec 09
To me the problem is with second hand smoke, this is as dangerous as smoking it's self. Make sure you protect yourself.
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Dec 09
Did he not make these chewing noises before they got married? Can't see him changing from being quiet to making a load of noise overnight, so to speak. Maybe he's had some tooth work done and it's gone wrong. My father-in-law makes a noise with food because his teeth aren't the greatest. Fortunately, he's quick like my hubby. Thank God! :-0
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
I'm sure he did, and that's why I made the Chinese water torture analogy. It probably didn't bother her at first, or not much, and it just got to where it really annoyed her. Then she probably just hinted around instead of coming straight out and saying something and eventually it became a huge thing to her.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Dec 09
Certainly if this is their only issue, I can't see a marriage breaking up over it!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
17 Dec 09
I am sure they could work this out between them, though. Mum deals with Dad and his eating habits by putting the telly on over in the corner and doesn't make it obvious by preparing her meal whilst he is eating his, then by the time he has finished, she's about to sit down. Clever! They've been married over 40 years too.
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