Should we not encourage new MyLot members by responding to their Discussions?

@suesan35 (478)
Sri Lanka
January 2, 2010 2:44am CST
I have noticed many new myLotters starting as new members who don't seem to get many responses to their discussions. I feel that we should respond to their discussions as otherwise they might lose heart or get bored and not want to persue their posting. It's very discouraging when no one responds to a discussion of yours. Although it has not happened to me so far, I would hate that to happen to me. So, I feel that we should write even a few lines whenever we see a discussion started by a new member with few posts in order to make them want to carry on. What do other experienced myLotters think?
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27 responses
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Jan 10
Hi susan, if they are new they have less chance of having their discussions seen as won't have developed friends lists, so the best advice is let them respond first and see how a good discussion works. I respond if I'm interested but if people don't comment back then I won't be interested again.
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@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
You are quite right thea. New members should first learn to respond and keep on responding which would be one way of getting them recognized. Also I think they should keep on reading the FAQs and guidelines so that don't go wrong. they can also read the discussions we have received the most number of responses and see why it is so. If a member's main reason on my myLot is to discuss many quality topics as possible, they can't go wrong while those who want to earn only will not be successful at all. thanks thea have a nice day.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
2 Jan 10
Hello, Suesan. I try to respond to new members discussions, because we were all new members once, and it's a scary thing trying to connect with a huge online community. However, many new members are quite frank in saying that they're only here for the money, and they post dozens of one line discussions, or things that will be sure to be deleted such as 'How much do I earn for each post?' or 'What's your favourite colour?' Anyone who has bothered to glance at the guidelines will know that we're not supposed to discuss our MyLot earnings, or put up 'favourite' discussions, which count as polls. I used to go in and tell people that, but most of them didn't take any notice of me, and when the discussion got deleted, my post and my earnings went with it. I will offer help, advice and support to anyone here, whether they are new members or established members, but I'm not prepared to waste my time on people who can only see dollar signs and have no wish to become a fully participating member of this great online community of ours. My advice to any new member is concentrate on responding to discussions at first. That way, you get to know how MyLot works and you come to recognise what makes for a quality discussion, as well as getting to know other members.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
2 Jan 10
I second that advice Sandra! If they start by responding then they should get a better idea of how things work here. For some reason there are so many who think that only by starting will they be earning. Many dicussions by new users could be very interesting but then they don't get back to comment and it never really turns into a discussion at all
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• Spain
2 Jan 10
Hello, Diana. The main misconceptions, such as starting discussions earns more, and once you've started a discussion you move on to the next one and forget about it, could probably be worked into a short, pithy 'warning' list. This would pop up at the end of the registration process, or better still, form part of the activation email, ahead of the activation link, so that at least people had to read it before they could get started. Doesn't mean they'd take any notice, but it's a start!
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
2 Jan 10
Thirded! Yes, you don't often get people actually saying that "starting discussions earns more". One gathers that that is many people's impression by the number of (often pointless) discussions that some people post. Not every one comes here to immediately spam or to furiously post discussions in the mistaken impression that that's how one earns here. A few people's first discussions are really sound and sensible questions (never mind that they have mistaken MyLot for a Q&A site). When I can, I give these people good value for money. I do frequently visit the New User tab though I'm afraid to say it is more often to try to nip something in the bud before it gets a hold! I all too rarely visit 'No Responses' but, when I do, I find that it's hard to find anything worth responding to. As for the ones who come here intent on spamming or 'doing their own thing', I an generally polite but brief ... no point in spending too much time on people who will very likely not listen and whose discussions will be deleted anyway. Some (more of late) are genuinely apologetic and I'm sure may very likely become upstanding MyLot members; others can be abusive or simply ignore the warnings. Such is life.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
2 Jan 10
Yes, Suesan, if the person seems to have something genuine to say and I feel that I have something useful to add, I very often do. Generally, I am not a 'few lines' man: I spend far too long giving as good answers as I can! I just was never ever 'economically viable' in my life As a result, some get good answers (and I occasionally get a BR) and some get none.
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
3 Jan 10
I don't see any harm in trying to lead newbies in the right direction, in fact I very often do, even when I know that the discussion is likely to be deleted. If the discussion is one that violates the Guidelines, I generally report it (as we are asked to do) but I very often leave a response to show them why - and how to improve - because MyLot never notify us when and why any specific discussion is deleted. This may actually change in the near future: I know that there have been a lot of requests in GoAskAlice's discussions for more information when a discussion is deleted. I have noticed that quite a number of people are actually giving quality responses to questions that quite clearly don't really ask for (or deserve) them and should really be quietly consigned to the waste bin. I am divided on this. On the one hand I like to see people making an effort to give good quality responses but on the other I am almost ashamed to see such low quality discussions appear.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
thanks owlwings: As you will see from my posts and comments, I too am not a "few lines" woman. Sometimes I go to too great lengths to explain something and that also could be a negative trait. Its just that I see many newbies asking why no one responds to their posts which must be really disheartening. That's why I ask, is it not possible to respond to a silly post by a newbie (only) by a gentle advice on how to select their topics if they require a good number of responses. You, I can see have been here for a long time, while I am comparatively new and have a lot to learn.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Thanks owlwings. You do understand the problem and I truly appreciate your comments and what you do to help new members.
@Loen210 (1540)
• United States
4 Jan 10
That is kind of you. Yes, and of course, also as first response, it depends on their topic if it interests you. I haven't posted many starting discussions, adn since I do not have many friends on here, as I started out and took a break for a bit, so not many linked people. But I have tried to answer to intersting topic discussions. (Like this one). ;O)
@Loen210 (1540)
• United States
5 Jan 10
Again, very nice person. I bet you are very nice to your friends and also newbies in town or the crowd. ;o) There are many wonderful people on this MyLot. Thanks for re responding. ;o)
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Good of you Loen. I thinks thats the best way to get responses. You have to first start responding and with practice the newbies will be able to write on interesting topics. Some do it easily and fast whereas for others, it takes sometime. I think it has also to do with the grasp of the language and one's ability to put it down in writing. I think we should try to help those who are willing to learn and not bother about those who are only interested in earning. thank you for responding Loen and I hope you'll start getting many friends soon.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jan 10
There are some mylotters who at first starting out don't read the guidelines and thus go against the guidelines. These may be some of the discussions with no responses as most mylotters won't respond, or those that do are doing so to tell the new mylotter they might want to take a look at the guidelines. Some group of mylotters will do this, and yet their earnings are lower because of it. I try to help when I can, but I am hardly on here and want to make as much as possible so I try to just stick to those discussions that interest me, sometimes regardless of whether I believe they to be deleted or not.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Thanks someCowgirl. 8458? vow! You have seen them all over and over again I guess. Yes, I understand. It could be their fault completely for not getting any responses. Once again I see that its the experienced long standing members who refrain from responding to silly topics. I can well agree with that. Well. at least the new members can help the newer ones so that things could be balanced a bit I hope. Have a nice day cowgirl
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
3 Jan 10
Some of the mylotters who respond have been here longer then I have. Truth be told I've only been here on mylot for two years, so while my post count may be impressive, it's truly not. There's another member who's been here just as long and her post count is wow, so much more then mine. I hope you enjoy mylotting, have a wonderful day!
@danitykane (3183)
• Philippines
2 Jan 10
hi suesan, I also respond to new discussion created my new members. I also check the "no response tab" and response to some that caught my interest and attention. We were new in here once so getting involve with their new topic is a good way to welcome them.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Good girl danitykane: You have 1286 posts and you are still willing to give a hand to those with "no response" tabs. I just want to know one thing danitykane. Has your responding made any difference to their standing. what I mean is have they improved or do they keep on posting silly topics where it goes under the 'no response' heading. It'll be a good thing to keep an eye and see whether our responding makes any difference to the quality of their discussions. Thank you danitykane. You really are a nice girl.
• Philippines
2 Jan 10
oooppps.. I mean, "new discussion created by new members" hehe..
@balasri (26537)
• India
2 Jan 10
I agree that the new comers must be encouraged.After all every one of us is a new comer here at one time or other.And there is a catch here.I do not fancy the idea of blindly supporting a new comer if the discussion raised by him is of good quality.It will set a bad example and encourage him to make more trivial discussions.Supporting the best discussions alone will improve the standard and quality of this place regardless of whether it is coming from an old hand or a novice.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Thanks balasri, you have made a good point. We certainly should not encourage silly topics; but if they are really beginner, is it not possible to comment on their topic and advice them or is it not ethical? For example somone posts a discussion on "what is your favorite color?" Will it be wrong to respond to that question by giving some gentle advice on how to select the discussions and to tell them to select more exciting topics if they require responses? I dont know whether its possible balasri, this is just an idea only.
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@balasri (26537)
• India
3 Jan 10
Of course we can help the new comers.
@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
4 Jan 10
Personally, I feel the number of responses is related to the active level of the member. I do not consider myself a new member, yet, I do not get as much responses as some new member. Having a lot of friends help provided you responded in kind. I am not saying all friends have this expectation, but I feel that most friends respond in kind.
@kimbers867 (2539)
• United States
4 Jan 10
Yes, we should be responding. About a year ago this was my mission, but have been sidetracked with it and really want to get back into it. I remember when I first started here and no one would respond to my discussions. I hope other mylotters will do the same thing!
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Hi kimbers. There are so many who are responding to this discussion and each has their own view. Most of the long standing members seem to think that the newbies mostly write silly or useless things. Maybe its because they have seen and read and written it all, they find it all so boring now; whereas to the new members its all new bcoz they dont know what the older members have been writing. But I think its a case of getting a new perspective on an old question with a hitherto not thought of angle. Anyway, I can understand both points of view and lets see if the newbies will take advantage of any encouragement they are given. thanks kimbers for your kind and positive response.
@donsky14 (5947)
• Philippines
2 Jan 10
Well, I reply to discussions that I can relate to...so I don't really choose if the person who started the discussion is a newbie or not. But yeah, I get your point, and I think it'll be helpful to them as well if we would participate in their discussions.
@donsky14 (5947)
• Philippines
3 Jan 10
Well, I guess so..but I guess its just like that here in myLot...we earn some and sometimes we lose some.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Hi donsky: thanks for your response. Of course we all want to respond to what we like and know; and not to some silly question. So I hope all newbies will read this and understand. However, right at the start, in order to encourage the new members, I think it would be nice to respond to their topice.
@bagumbayan (2705)
• Philippines
4 Jan 10
Youre right. Although I got no time opening new discussions as I tried to respond to topics sent to me, by topics of interest. Maybe each member be sent a copy of all the new topics for discussions so that others can at least respond.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Hi bagumbayan I wonder if the myLot admin will be willing to do that. If all the ,ew discussions are sent , still only those of interest will be chosen by the members. Its actually a case of "time" bagumbayan. Where on earth will we have the time to go through all the new discussions daily? If we were to do that, we might not have the time to respond to the really interesting discussions we want to respond to. Don't you think so? Anyway lets see what we can do to help. At least if each experienced member picked on one newbie a day to respond, that would help I think. thank you bagumbayan for responding - I have learnt much from this particular discussion.
@tjburcham (690)
• United States
8 Jan 10
It is, I concider common curtiousy, but sometimes people just don't have the time to respond or maybe nothing nice to say. So I don't worry to much about it.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
8 Jan 10
Yes I suppose. Sometimes people can't be bothered to respond to discussions they have no interest in and they can't be blamed. Once you have seen them all especially if you are a very old member, (old meaning long standing)thats very understandable. Well, at least I hope the not so long standing members will take a little time to help the newbies out. thanks tjburcham for your response.
@goldeneagle (6745)
• United States
5 Jan 10
we should definitely encourage the new members here at mylot. New members are important to keeping the site going, and if enough people sign up, we may be able to start getting paid more for ours posts here in the future...
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
5 Jan 10
Thanks for understanding goldeneagle. Yes, new members also bring freshness to discussions. Where older members might have discussed many articles in times gone, they will be bored when those questions are asked over and over again whereas a new member might be able to ask the question in a different way giving it a different angle requiring a fresh approach. We always need new people to keep things going and that's why I thought it would be good to encourage them. Thanks once again and have a nice day goldeneagle.
• Philippines
2 Jan 10
I choose a new lotter discussion based on it uniqueness which mean not a duplicate discussion to help them ignite their interest. So far it never helps me as some discussion started by newbie are often end up being deleted. Then, my points often decrease and i think for them to have many responses they should learn to add active friends before starting a discussion. the best way for them is to reply on the other member discussion to get familiar with the rules.
• Philippines
4 Jan 10
Hi suesan, It is really a must for newbie to observe first how the lot is going on and have to pay attention with the guidelines in order to become wiser before posting their first discussion their is a need to read and review the site policy so that their effort and time for writing their post do not end up becoming rubbish causing them to lost cents and wasting their time efforts often lead to disappointment.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
hi neelianoscet: I see that you too agree that new members should start off by responding to discussions before they start their own discussion. After sometime they will know what catches on or what discussions fall by the roadside. I wonder why new members try to start discussions as soon as they become a member. Its always better to watch, read and learn from the others before they start on their own. thanks for your reply.
@mrsjbelle (1640)
• United States
3 Jan 10
I agree with you whole heartedly and think you are very wise even though you are a newbie yourself. Welcome to Mylot you seem like you will be a valuable contributer and I hope you stay for a long time. I have been here three years and do not ever plan on leaving. It is a lot of fun here and I learn so very much.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
What a nice thing to say mrsjbelle. You are quite an advanced mylotter and yet you seem to think that I will be a valuable contributer. that makes me very happy. I love the discussions and friendly banter among members and feel like at home when I'm on site. I don't even feel the time passing away and its definitely not the money that keeps me here. Never joined a site I found more exciting and valuable. Have a great day mrsjbelle and many happy years of mylotting to you.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Jan 10
There's one downside to relying on notifications. You don't even see discussions started by new members. I recently changed from not using notifications to using them, because I might miss something my friends posted or responded to. But the thing is, then I don't see anybody else's discussions. Used to be, when I had time, I'd would go over to the 'no responses' tab and see if there was anything interesting there. But the first responder here is right too. I'm not going to respond to a discussion if it's the same thing I've seen over and over and over again or if it's a topic I just have nothing to say about.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Hi dawnald. You've made your point there. With a massive 10438 posts, you obviously know what you are talking about. I too wish I had more time to go through all the posts, even those of the newbies and those that get no response at all to check out what's interesting & whats not. But unfortunately, by the time I finish responding to my friend's posts and the hot topics of the day (if I find them interesting) theres hardly any time to checkout anything else. In the end its in the hands of new members to check what the experienced ones are doing, follow the guidelines and improve themselves. I'm so glad I started this discussion, because I've learnt so much from the long standing myLotters and I say thank you to all of them. Have a nice day dawnald.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
3 Jan 10
well i feel they should think it over and take advice from the older ones thats been here. get lots of friends, have and think about interesting subjects, speak/type as though you are really talking with interest,dont expect everyone to just jump on dumb posts like what color you like and what toothpaste you use all these things. when i was new not many responded. you have to build character here. so thats what i think. all these will get you responses. so, no, i dont feel like we need to baby along/cater to new ones that are not putting thought into their discussions.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Thank you bunnybon. Everyone has their point of view and all comments are received greafully. You see, I too am a comparatively new member & theres so much to learn. You with your experience obviously know what you are talking about as do most others with posts more than 1000. I know what you mean when you say to write like you are talking to someone and make the discussion interesting. Of course no one wants to read silly sounding topics and I totally agree with you there.
• United States
4 Jan 10
I am like most I answer the discussions that interest me. I really don't look to see if they are new or not if the discussion interest me I will answer it. So to answer a discussion because the person is new I won't unless it does interest me. I have started discussions and only had maybe 5 people who had answered. This didn't discourage me it made me think about how to write better and choose better topics.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Hi sherric. For a new member you're doing fine I think and you sound so much like a long standing member. You are quite correct in that you answer only those that interest you. I was only trying to see whethr it was possible to help the new ones along so that we could get fresh topics and new ideas and suggestions which would benefit all of us. Sometimes, Its always good to have a new angle on any question or answer and thats what I was hoping to achieve by encouraging the newer members. Well, let's see, if they want to improve and learn I guess they will watch and learn like you did. So, its ultimately in their hands. Thanks sherric
• Philippines
3 Jan 10
hello suesan, It depends on their topics, they should more creative, or better yet respond first to so many discussions before they can make their own. i kept telling that to newbies before but i don't know what happened to them. some are just plain dumb and stubborn, hate to be told what to do when you are actually helping them. my account is decieving but i've been here for a year, the old account got deleted due to violations
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
4 Jan 10
Hi LetranKnight: Can your account get deleted by helping someone? Or is that a dumb question. I've got so much to learn on myLot. Do you mean that if someone's discussion gets deleted due to not following guidelines, those who responded to that discussion are also in trouble? Can you please clarify. I guess some people only want to earn and post any rubbish for the sake of posting. thanks for responding LetranKnight. I do hope you'll be able to clarify my query.
@bhav27 (442)
• India
3 Jan 10
yes i agree with you you know i referred a person and made a discussion but did't get any response in mylot so he decided to quit doing mylot and when i was checking my referrals earning then i saw him and i asked him the reason of not using mylot then he said that no one response to my discussion then i encouraged him by doing responsed to his discussion and from that day i am responding to each and every discussion started by a newbie or somone whose post less , this will help them to make good post and with quality.
@suesan35 (478)
• Sri Lanka
3 Jan 10
Hi bhav You seems to have gone out of your way to help newbies. Good for you. Only thing to remember is not to encourage silly topics which we see from new members a lot. Whenever you respond to a newbie maybe you can add a little bit of advice to help him/her along. Great work bhav - have a nice day.