quran surgery

Indonesia
January 13, 2010 7:15am CST
salam my bro/sis i have some doubts about islam may you explain me? 1. there are many sects in islam who are the true ? 2. what does islam think about other religion ? 3. why in islam asking about metaphysic( like where is allah, what is soul, ect) is prohibited ? 4 islam has personal god, hasn't it? i am an open mind person ,i can accept islam if you give me the truth from your brother baba
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@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
15 Jan 10
These are very interesting questions but the first one is more important than others.No doubt there are many sects in Islam like all other religions.There was no such sect in the beginning when the Muslims used to follow only the Holy Quran and the holy Sunnah/Hadith.With the passage of time,they started blind-following their own self-created IMAMS or religious leaders and diverted from the Holy Quran and the holy Sunnah.They are Shias,Dewbandis and Brelvies.They donot hesitate to indulge in Polytheism which is the biggest and the only unforgivable sin as per the holy Quran.I believe that the only Muslims who strictly adhere to the basic teachings of Islam(Quran and Sunnah) are today known as AHLE HADITH,who are mostly found in Arab countries.They do not blind-follow any non-prophetic personality and would only prefer the holy Quran and the Holy Sunnah.They are the true Muslims as they do not indulge in Polytheism and hate worshiping of graves and monks.......And I have also converted to these true Muslims.......
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
16 Jan 10
pantheism either agree all gods or all are gods. or it say universe is the manifestation of God. Sorry we do not agree that. God is not like anything. Universe is not God it is one of His great creations. Agreeing all are gods has no meaning as they are created. Agreeing all gods doesn't make sense as they contradict themselves. So we do not consider universe as God, we worship the creator of universe. Peace.
• Indonesia
16 Jan 10
yes bro you are right polytheism is not right but pantheism is right
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• Indonesia
16 Jan 10
thanks for the reply bro bro harley, but he can not be separated from his creation, it is not logic if he is not in this universe "where is he" logically he is within this universe because every thing is creation even his throne too is creation if you make question "where is he" the question is "god is omnipresents, in all beings" "every thing is creation" he can avoid this creation. even he himself is in this creation , his throne too is creation and exist in creation so how can he exist without creation, bro he is in this creation, in his throne arsy
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@Gordano (795)
• United States
15 Jan 10
Hello Sairam, there are many sects in Islam who are the true? The Prophet Muhammad PBUH once said: I left among you two things that if you hold firmly to them you will never be misguided: the Book of Allah (the Holy Quran) and the Sunnah of His Prophet. there are many sects in Islam, but not All of them hold firmly to the Quran and the Sunnah, Shia sect was created by a Jew Abdullah Ibn Sabaa who converted to Islam not because he wanted to embrace Islam as His religion but He wanted to harm it from the inside, one of The main beliefs among Shia sect is that the Message of Islam was supposed to come Through Ali (the Prophet Muhammad's cousin) but it come to Muhammad, as If it was SMS to the wrong number LOL of course there other deviated sects That follow Other people claimed to be prophets, conflicting with the Quran and the Sunnah, Because Both of them Clearly say the Muhammad is the Last of Prophets, and no Other Prophets will come after him, Except Jesus Christ will come again to accomplish his Mission. to summarize, we are not in the position to Judge which sect is right and which is wrong, since it is up to Allah Alone, But we Have standards that make you easily determine which sect follow the straight path according to the Quran and the Sunnah as mentioned in the Hadith above. what does Islam think about other religion? The Holy Quran is Clear in this regard, Every one Believe in God and do Good Deeds God will accept him and he will be rewarded for his good Deeds; [002:062] Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. as you see, it is up to any one since he Believe in God and do good deeds, If you asked the Jews they will tell you that Only Them are the Chosen people of the God, Christians will also tell you that Only those who accept Jesus as Lord ans Savior will be saved, but of course This is not true, Because there is Good and Bad People among people of any religion and every one will be judged Only according to his actions. why in Islam asking about metaphysics( like where is Allah, what is soul, etc) is prohibited? This is not true, Requesting knowledge is a duty of every Muslim Male and Female according to sayings of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, What is prohibited is asking about Things that Belong to Allah alone, and no one is able to provide you with answers regarding it, such as the time of the Hour(the day of judgment) and regarding the Spirit All of these things Belong to God alone, If you want to ask about them Feel free to ask But you will ask forever since no one know about them. Islam has personal god, hasn't it? This Point is not Clear, What do you mean by personal god ? I don't get your point, However God in Islam is the God of All Humanity every one have a direct relation with the God since no Priesthood in Islam, everything is between you and God Directly, you confess to God, Pray to God, repent to God, seek the reward for your good actions from God, ask god directly for forgiveness Etc. Best regards
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@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
15 Jan 10
A very beautiful and succinct explanation for the questions asked. Gordano. Kudos.
@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
15 Jan 10
Yes,Mr Gordano has given perfect replies to these questions.The first one is more important,for which I have given some explanation and indication below.
• Indonesia
16 Jan 10
personal god is god who has attribute and name so has islam personal god ? your response is very very appreciated bro
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@Harley009 (1416)
• India
16 Jan 10
1. ]And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided. [Quran 3:103] ^One should believe in the guidance of the our Creator, creator of the universe, the One Almighty God. That is the duty of a human in earth. One should realize his creator and thank him and lead good life as directed by God. O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. [Quran 4: 59] ^Almighty God tells to obey our creator and obey the messenger who has been sent to practically guide us, when we are in doubt or confusion in anything go back to the guidance of our creator and the messenger. [u]Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do. [Quran 6:159] [/u] ^Whoever divide the Islam are not entertained. However there is no harm in forming associations and groups to work together as a unit. If they are able to group together just as 'Muslims' then it will be most great. [u][b] And who is better in speech than one who invites to Allah and does righteousness and says, "Indeed, I am of the Muslims." [Quran 41:33][/b][/u] ^A Muslim should say "I am a Muslim" not shia, sunni, barelvi, sufi, shafi, hanafi, salafi, deobandi etc. Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." [Quran 3:64] ^call those who have scriptures and agree up on the common terms that we do not worship only One God, and associate no partners with Him. And bear witness that "We are Muslims" The the sects in Islam should not have happened, however there are many, most of them have similar things differ only in few thing except in shia. This happens because of human nature and also with less knowledgeable people just follow Islam like what they see just around them from parents, friends and society rather than from the real Islamic texts. You may find many 'so called Muslims', many of them really do not understand the real flavor of Islam and just are Muslims because of Culture. You can see many so called scholars as well, they are just the preservers of the culturally practiced things by Muslims rather than real Islamic teachings it is not the right way of Islam. One should follow the real Islam as instructed by God. Judge Islam by Islam not by the so called followers as you judge a Car with its quality and features rather than the driver of it. We had a real driver shown Islam practically that is Prophet Mohammad, from him we have to learn driving Islam. So a real believer should go with Quran and the traditions of Prophet Mohammad. not with the sects that we see around. If the groups almost agree with the basics of Islam, then there is no harm to work together towards the betterment of society and Islamic matters as long as it goes it with Quran and traditions of Prophet Mohammad. 2. A Muslim should respect other religious followers, should not put down symbols of others and should not demolish their prayer houses. You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah ; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant. [Quran 5:82] [u]Those with Faith, those who are Jews, and the Christians and Sabaeans, all who have Faith in Allah and the Last Day and act rightly, will have their reward with their Lord. They will feel no fear and will know no sorrow." [Quran2 :62] [/u] "God does not forbid you to act considerately or to act fairly towards those who have never fought you over religion nor have evicted you from your homes. God loves the fair minded. God only forbids you to be friendly with those who have fought you over religion and evicted you from your homes and who helped others in your eviction. Those who befriend them are wrongdoers." (60:8-9) [u] Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided. [Quran 16:125][/u] [u] O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. [Quran 5:8][/u] Say, "O disbelievers, I do not worship what you worship, Nor are you worshippers of what I worship, Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship,Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship, For you is your religion, and for me is my religion" [Quran 109:1-6] 3. We cannot confine Allah merely within his created universe. Allah is eternal not bound to anything created by him. Quran says his throne of dominion is above all the heavens. It probably a way of explanation of his power, How exactly we have no knowledge about it. Regarding souls we have only very limited information: When one forms in womb souls will be sent the body and when they die the souls will be taken back and will be there some where in some special dwelling places provided by God. 4. I don't know what a personal God is. God is the creator, the one and only Creator of the universe, creator of humankind and sustainer of everything. He is the all powerful having knowledge of everything. He knows about us than we know about ourselves. Human being is created to know their creator. May Almighty Allah Guide us to the right path. Peace.
@Gordano (795)
• United States
20 Jan 10
Thank you brother Harley for your active participation and informative response, Keep it up
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@mains50 (299)
• Canada
14 Jan 10
go here and read the quran in your language: tanzel.org or tanzil.org
• Indonesia
13 Jan 10
1. Not only in islam but also in other religions might have many sects, for instance: christian in indonesia, there exists sect namely panti kusta, jawi wetan, bethany etc. I know it b'coz my grand mom is a christian n she ever moved from ceratin sect to other sect. However, I'm a muslim. Sects in islam that is admitted n exist is b'coz they have different mazdab (opinion), manhaj (way), harokah (movement), n management of organization. They are in one faith, believe in one God n believe the same prophets(several prophets that we believe in) as well as have one holy Qur'an. They have the same TAUHID. Islam is not very strict in Muamalah, otherwise islam is VERY TOLERANT in muamalah, opinion, n everything out of tauhid. The most principle is tauhid, it is as our identity n the basic of faith. 2. Islam is very very tolerant to other religions but we have our own Principle. U can ask Ustad in indonesia for the explanation about Lakum dinukum waliyadin (my religion is mine, ur religion is yours). We let non-muslim worship in save and as the way they worship. It's prohibited for us to disturb them, even we should make them save when they worship. That is the content of islam. But nowadays, there are lots of conspirator from others who don't like islam. they try to break the islam value, rules, n paradigm. They even use in the name of islam in breaking its value, the fact they do against islam. 3. Sorry i can't explain it well in english but if u understand bahasa indonesia and don't mind to chat via email, i'll explain it very well via private massage here. However, i try to say in english. It is not strictly prohibited to talk about metaphysic. Even in Qur'an, describes about Allah(e.g. that Allah isn't man either woman), paradise, hell, n another invisible stuffs. Qur'an describe it textually. It's just PROHIBITED to describe them visually b'coz it's not like their visually description/painting/drawing. B'coz what they describe is extremely different from the fact, whereas we don't know the fact yet. We'll know it when hereafter(akhirat). 4. We believe in Allah as The Creator, The Almighty, The Gracious n so on (Rabb Al-Amin), and we call it as GOD(it's definitely in general,not personal). Also, we believe in Allah as "ILLAH" in which we worship and dedicate our life just for Allah(GOD). This explanation doesn't mean that Allah is more then one. ALLAH is Single(One). It just means that Allah is God (Rabb Al-Amin) and ILLAH (who we worship for). Let's take an analogy "A man whose profession is doctor but he is also a science researcher". That man has two functions as a doctor n science researcher. Generally, we call both Titles (Al-Amin and ILLAH) as God. Okay Sairam, i suggest u to ask the expert of islam (Ulama) about islam religion in order to get the right explanation. B'coz it's very risky to ask one who is not expert in it, they might be wrong or even deliberately give u the wrong explanation or might act as if they knew it whereas they don't know it. There are lots of ulama in indonesia, u can ask them to get detail n right explanations. -Good Luck-
• Indonesia
14 Jan 10
thnx bro for the reply 1 so is shia or sufi islam bro ? 2 oh i understand it now, thnx 3 yes bro, islam prohibit his followers to ask about metaphysic they ask thee concerning the spirit. say "the spirit by command of my lord.of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you (al isra 85) 4 god has no personal attribute bro so how can he has attributes like The All-Compassionate(ar rahman) ,the all merciful (ar rahim) and so on how can it be happened ?
• India
16 Jan 10
walaikum-assalam my bro: i am sorry for late replying you ,but then also i am here to asking you that is your doubt is clear or not? you know what, i think you had got one comment with one photo of einstien, do you know one day he reply my discussion regarding to are you true lovers of religion? and he relys with his answer i am not to suppose to say you in detail. i want to say you the holy quran is not give us in one time. it is given to us by allah in the hand of angel named as ''jibrail alai salam'' he is on of the four most powerfull angels. you know what, our messengers doesnot give any advise related to islam. they are only getting the problems of peoples and leaving it to god(allah) and god is giving the solution of any problems by help of ''jibrail alai salam''. like this in peices there is a day where this solutions become completed and the book which is formed is named as ''quran''. i want to also tell you that there are four famous books which are given to us by god in same way they are ''zubur,thahurat,injil and last quran'' and this are books realted with problems in common man life in islam . this books are the solution to overcome this problems. god also told us that you a;ways go with the after messenger and our after and last messenger is profet(S.A.W.S) and he said that you always follow my two ways and you will be never misguided in islam . you know what our profet(S.A.W.S)is one favourite of allah . you know what there is no one son of allah, because allah had told in his quran that''qul-hu-allah hu ahad allah-hu-samad yam yalid walam yulad walam ya khula hu kufwan ahad'' meaning:no one is my with me no mother no father no brother no sister ,i am alone and i exist from begining that is i am before your think and i will after your think . you cant imagine how long i am .