The Great American Illusion

@gewcew23 (8010)
United States
January 24, 2010 7:23pm CST
At lest we have freedom of choice is that not what makes America great, but what we have has nothing to do with freedom of choice. When every single market in this country is regulated this means that everything any American thinks he is freely choosing is something that has been “approved” by the government for American consumption and Americans may only “choose” from that list. Choosing something not on the “approved” list is considered criminal and can result in one losing their freedoms altogether. That’s not freedom of choice, that is only state control of people’s lives which just does not exist.
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@poingly (606)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Not to get too much into political philosophy, but isn't this the opposite idea from "The Noble Lie" (it's been years since my POLI-SCI days, so forgive me if I don't get this exactly right). Though there are many noble lies, in the US we've got a big one: "All men are created equal." In a lot of ways, this just isn't true--historically it was certainly not true (ie, slavery, women, etc.). Regulations and laws exist, often times, to preserve this equality. The idea that freedoms clash is pretty basic democracy (ie, your right to punch air ends where my nose's freedom to exist starts). Then again, maybe you mean something more specific. In which case, you should probably elaborate.
• Romania
25 Jan 10
Hi gewcew23, It is clear that the government is manipulating americans, i dont't really think that president in America is elected with democracy. The government can be misused,and the dangers a dishonest government poses. There were obvious parallels to be drawn about the unwinnable war in Vietnam and the unwinnable war against the terrorists. Do you really think that the U.S. military, or the government can't find Osama Bin Laden , or they don't want to find him because they didn't reach their goals, to put their hands on oill. Bush's government is the most corrupt and dishonest government America's ever had. The Iraq war, most of the time the does not even dominate the front page of the paper or the lead story of the news. Sometimes, the whole news broadcast barely mentions it. The government has decreed that the media can not show body bags. There have been hardly any pictures of the wounded soldiers, although this war has seen less deaths and more mutilations than any others, due to the advances in body armor and medicine. We read about the IEDs,and how they are blowing up army vehicles right and left,but how often have you seen a picture of a blown-apart vehicle ? The media is greatly restricted in what they are allowed to show, and the excuse is national security. But I believe the reason is that if we aren't forced to see the war, then we are not forced to face that ugly truth.
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@poingly (606)
• United States
25 Jan 10
The president isn't elected with democracy, he is elected via republic (though that republic is democratically elected, hence the term democratic republic).
@spalladino (17922)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Food safety regulations have nothing to do with freedom of choice, IMO, and that is the only reason why certain food items would not be approved for sale. We also have the freedom to buy items outside of a market that has not been officially "approved"...for instance the fresh vegetables and boiled peanuts I bought earlier from a roadside stand. They didn't come from an "approved" farm either.
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Yep, the Liberals/Statists/Progressives/Socialist/Communist/Democrats believe the American people need to be "regulated" for our own good because they think we are to damn stupid to be capable of making our own decisions. 0bowmao and this corrupt Congress is just the latest in the push to change America into a communist country by these elitist morons. Massachusetts should have been a wake up call for these idiots... because America is a center right country, and we don't want their version of communism.
@poingly (606)
• United States
25 Jan 10
Center right makes no sense as a term. If America's "center" is to the right, that makes THAT the center. What's left and right, liberal and conservative, progressive and status quo change over the years. As a result, what is in the "center" of these beliefs also change, but it is always at the center. Always remember that our founding fathers didn't trust the American people to directly elect our own president!
• United States
25 Jan 10
Destiny, please give me a list of items that you want less regulated. Or, did the people who feed you your information forget to tell you that?
@spalladino (17922)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Don't hold your breath waiting for a response from either one of them, debater.
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• United States
27 Jan 10
But, freedom means choosing. What if they is only one kind of car, how would you choose between walking or riding a bike. I don't mind the choices being regulated but not the point of over regulation. I can choose not to respond to this discussion but being told I have to is not freedom at all.