Monarchy and Democracy...

@GADHISUNU (2162)
India
February 5, 2010 10:20pm CST
Given that the change towards popular government is irreversible, and even those that remained monarchies like, the one in Nepal till very recently, turning to democratic form of governance, many others may follow suit, with the possible exception of Islamic Countries, where do you think justice is promptly dispensed, adhering to the directive principle: Justice delayed is justice denied? What are your thoughts on what form of government guarantees that justice is done? I am peeved by the way Justice is manipulated in a democracy.Oftentimes it is a travesty of truth. Criminals obtaining bail with an honest opportunity to prove their innocence only use it to manipulate evidence, through all that power, pelf, and money can obtain. I am somehow inclined to believe there would have been better justice in good old days of monarchy. There is of course one problem with autocratic governments that when the King's family is involved there could have been lesser chances of justice being dispensed. More than anything else my concern is for speed. This for a debate. Please engage yourselves in a free for all debate.
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• United States
6 Feb 10
Hi, Gad! Considering all the horrible things done by monarchs over the years, I'd go with Democracy any time. That's not to deny that democracies have done some pretty rotten things, too, but at least it wasn't just because one person, with or without sound reason, made the rules!
• United States
7 Feb 10
Those who came to mind were some of the ancient crazies, and the quasi-monarchs of many dictatorships. You're so right about the corruption in democracies. There should be a better way than both, but I don't think we'll find it as long as people remain human!
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
7 Feb 10
[B]Hi! Gad![/B],I love the way you have shortened my name for ease of reference. True, when it comes to "safety" of the individual, the guarantees are automatically higher in a democracy. First, were it a monarchy in India (say, and by implication in most civilized countries) we wouldn't be able to discuss this openly. But in India's history at least very few monarchs have been that bad, or at least we are not left with many valid corroborated records as to how each one was. I look at it as in a monarchy the numbers embezzling public money and funds going scot free could be less? In a democracy, self aggrandizement and swallowing public money with impunity has become the order, at least in our country(India). Almost we hear/read of some scam or the other. There is nothing like punishment, reprisal, or anything of the sort. If only God feels something intolerable has been done He does some justice. Often we do not see anything perceptible happening to these people. I was thinking of monarchy not because it is safe- it definitely is not. But the numbers of people wanting to drain the exchequer are less definitely?
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@vathsala30 (3732)
• India
6 Feb 10
Hi gadhisunu Both are equal as far as I am concerned. In monarchy form of Government, the king's decision is final and binding whether we like it or not we have to accept. What happened to Kovalan in poompuhar? without any enquiry he was killed. You are correct, if the king's family is involved in any crimes that affected the victim and its family, they do not get justice. In the democratic Govt too we have to fall prey to the political powers directly or indirectly and keep quiet to face the wrath as is happening daily somewhere and in some form
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
7 Feb 10
Right there, when the family of the monarch is involved, the odds against getting justice are upped. You have also provided a very apt example of Kovalan. By bringing up the present day, politiacal powers doing the same thing, you have once again expressed doubts on justice ever being done. So, monarchy or democracy Justice for all is a mere slogan. Perhaps this intractability of Justice is designed in by God!?!
• India
7 Feb 10
Yes in these present days, if we get the justice, then we are really lucky. Even if we need to go to police station due to any reason, we need to pay money, but if the culprit gives more money, then he will win and the justice will be in doldrums.
@Qaeyious (2357)
• United States
6 Feb 10
That may be well and fine until you get charged with a crime. Especially one that you didn't do, it just so happens the evidence the authorities gathered points the finger at you. I don't think monarchies are any better at finding the truth than a district attorney who's hungry for more bodies in prison to up his chances for reelection. No, I would rather have my day in court, thank you. At least then there's a chance to prove my innocence. It's a pity it takes money to buy a competent defense attorney, but that's the a lot better than not having that chance.
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
6 Feb 10
The right of even an accused to defend himself sometimes goes in favor of a criminal. There are several cases where everyone in the know about a crime knows that the crime has been committed by so and so, but just for lack of incriminating evidence he is let off by the court. This is because democracy is driven mainly by procedures, and just an improper or careless presentation of the case by the police is sufficient for the case to be dismissed.
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
6 Feb 10
I have to go with democracy only in that there is more safety with numbers. Monarchies are hard to vote out. There are problems though being the guy with the most money gets the best chance for freedom.Yes, lots of guilty people might get off but that would be better than one innocent man not.No system will be perfect until man can convert brainwaves and thoughts to pictures. We could see what really happened then.
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
6 Feb 10
I understand that the problem with monarchs is that they are generally despotic and if a wrong idea about an innocent man gets into his head there is a possibility of he/she being punished for no reason. In this respect democracy scores, but what disturbs(ed) me is we seen in India day in and day out that the loooooong rope given by the courts not only make justice expensive, but allowsa lot of criminals go scot free. Somehow I am not convinced about letting off criminals go scot free just because, you do not want one innocent be punished.