13 and?

@dawnald (85130)
Shingle Springs, California
February 23, 2010 10:35am CST
Dearra came around this morning and told me that she had been trying to find a book online. She liked how you could read book reviews and see how other people liked the book. But when she pulled up a list of suggested reading material for 13 year old girls, the first thing that she came up with was something like: Diary of a teenage girl: 13 and pregnant And there was a look of horror on her face. "I don't want to read that kind of stuff!" So first of all, I pointed out the large collection of fantasy and science fiction that resides on our library shelves upstairs. "I don't want to read books that are 2,000 years old!" "Too bad, because I have a couple." Naomi chimes in, "how can people read them?" "Well, Naomi, they were translated into English." But anyway, back to the topic, which is that the first book that came up as recommended for 13 year old girls was a book on teenage pregnancy. Times sure have changed since I was 13. Other than "Go Ask Alice", the books that I remember reading were mostly fictional. What does it say about our times that the top recommendation for a 13 year old girl is about teenage pregnancy? Good thing? Bad thing? Necessary evil?
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@sunnycool (12714)
• India
23 Feb 10
Five more years to go---Not a long period though She picked up the wrong book for sure and seems to be too clever
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
Right now she thinks boys are idiots. And I'd like to keep it that way for at least 5 more years!!!
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@sunnycool (12714)
• India
23 Feb 10
you missed few words in there-----that was actually meant to be "Boys at your place are idiots"(which obviously makes way for me) thats why i said that your daughter is too clever
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
The boys in her school haven't impressed her too favorably, but who knows about somebody from another part of the world...
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
23 Feb 10
When 13 I used to play outdoors with my friends all day long. We used to make tree houses, play with dolls, play games. Pregnancy at 13? I was shocked when my 19 years old girlfriend was pregnant.
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
23 Feb 10
media is doing all damage, TV in most cases....
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I was playing with dolls when I was 12 or so and I remember somebody telling me I was too old. Why the heck would you want to make somebody grow up too soon?
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
very much so...
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
23 Feb 10
I think it is really sad I did not have Books like that and I do not think they where about I used to love reading things like Enid Blyton it is so sad that those types of Books are out on the Shelf today for Children but I guess that is what the world has come to now
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
24 Feb 10
Me too... used to see lots of Enid Blyton stories before..
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I guess soo...
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
23 Feb 10
Times sure have changed but i really don't think it would be a bad idea for her to read it. I was into nancy drew mysteries when i was that age. Don't guess dearra has even heard about them, lol.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
Probably wouldn't be a bad idea, but if I suggested it, she would probably say, "come on mom, do you think I'm an idiot?" Or some such thing... She's read some of the Nancy Drew books, but I think she's a few years past them now.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I never heard of those...
@marguicha (215144)
• Chile
23 Feb 10
I still have the whole Cherry Ames books, Jo. Did you read them?
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
23 Feb 10
Hello, Dawn, how things change, as you say. When I was 13, I announced that I was going to the local coffee bar with my friends. It was Sunday afternoon, and I was bored. My mother was horrified - she thought coffee bars were dens of iniquity. All we did was make one cup of coffee (or tea)last about 2 hours and play records on the juke box, but from her reaction, you'd have thought I'd just told her I was pregnant! I lost Mother 20 years ago - she'd think she was on another planet if she could see some of the things that pass as normal life today.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I bet she would. And then there was my mom. She made sure my sister knew about birth control and offered to take her to get her pills (in High School). She never made me that same offer. Hmmmmm.....
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
23 Feb 10
well, dawnald, what happened is one of the downsides of technology. it it were a human answering a question or query from a 13-year old, that would have been totally different. like a librarian, he or she would most certainly suggest some of the classics, like canterbury tales, huckelberry finn or tom sawyer. what i mean is good literature, not literature about pregnancy.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
Probably very true!
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
23 Feb 10
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
4 Mar 10
Weird how the types of books for that age is different from when I was that age. My 13 year old likes to read different types of books. She's currently into those American Girl books, which I think is good to read. Your child doesn't have to read books that is just for girls of that age. She can read anything she wants that she feels is a good book. At that age, I was reading books way beyond my age level, but I was also reading at a early age. At that age, I was reading Sweet Valley High books. I got hooked on those when I read the younger collection. I then went straight to Stephen King when I got to 15. It's sad that this time and age that teenage pregnancy is the top recommendations for 13 year old girls. I wonder if this is suppose teach girls of this age, that pregnancy at this age is not a good thing. I hope this is what it's suppose to do.
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@chertsy (3798)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Wow, I think the Earth would have to freeze over before my kids would walk away from the tv and computer to read a book. My 13 year old has actually started to love reading a few years ago. My 8 year old, bless her heart has a learning disability, so I'm trying not to force to much reading on her since she's just now actually starting to read. It's hard having two kids that really don't read all the time, when I loved to read since the age of 3.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Mar 10
My son has autism and reading has been really tough for him. and then he discovered Harry Potter!
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Mar 10
Last night all 3 kids were reading instead of watching TV or playing computer games. :-)
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• United States
7 Mar 10
unfortunetly i'd have to say necessary evil nowadays. they ought to put reality in those books...and make them read them. forget your social life,you won't have one. the kid doesn't care if you have an exam tomorrow,it's teething. no parties for you,and you're gonna learn the meaning of sacrifice real quick. that might cool their jets if nothing else.
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• United States
8 Mar 10
LOL that's the way to do it.totally random crying. i think they handed out bags of flour or an egg when i was going to school,but that's too easily replaced if they drop it or something.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Mar 10
My nephew had to carry the bag of flour around. And his parents gleefully woke him up at 2 AM to feed it.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Mar 10
I like what they do in some schools, where they send the kids home with a baby doll. They have to take it everywhere they go,keep notes of what they did to take care of it, and baby is programmed to start crying in the middle of the night!
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
24 Feb 10
Precisely.. where are all those Enid Blyton, Nancy Drew type of books.. or Sherlock Holmes types.. spy stories. I always recommend spy and light crime stories to teenagers, so that those kinds of genre would make them think of the plot and get their minds interactive. Spy stories are the best, I grew up reading some and hence, my love of books are stored there.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
25 Feb 10
Look out for this book, The Folk Of The Faraway Tree..awesome story, I used to read when I was a kid..
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 10
Never heard of Enid Blyton, but I have some of the others...
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@marguicha (215144)
• Chile
23 Feb 10
Hi dawn, I wouldn´t mind THAT much if the book was good, but I would bet my house with all the furniture that the book is just ****! I have always thought that there is a gap between children´s books and books for adults. But there are quite a few short books, or easy to read books that she might like. I did like "Anne of Green Gables" at that age. Anne is such an uncommon girl that the book appeals to many ages. Then if she is in science fiction, I would give her the Robot short stories by Asimov. If she is more intelectual, I´d give her The martian chronicles and talk with her later about how the book is really depincting American Society at a certain time. Well, I did read then the little house... books and all Louise May Alcott (not abridged copies as they lose everything). I read some novels with romance. Good ones. Clasics. I liked Jane Eyre and Pride and Prejudice. I didn´t find so interesting Tom Sawyer until a lot later because the hero was a boy and I needed girl heroines. For that reason I loved Little women. I felt Jo was a wonder until she said no to Laurie and married that fatherly figure (Dr Bhaer). I could ask my grandaughter what did she read at 13. By the way, if she likes magic and symbols, she can read "the Wizard of Earthsea". I hope this helps. I have this love story with language and books since I can remember. Fortunatly my family and my best friends are all thieves: the have stolen so many books that I can still live in my house. If they had been honest, I would have had to go sleep with the dog (no room for me inside the book case-house). Take care! I might come with other ideas later on.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
Great choices, and, guess what, I own every single one of them. So I do believe I will push some of them in her direction, and hopefully she won't turn her little 13 year old nose up at some of them!
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I'm thinking of Earthsea or the Robot stories, actually... Though we did see Ann of Green Gables on dvd and maybe that will induce her to read it!
@marguicha (215144)
• Chile
23 Feb 10
Why don´t you pick one, let´s say Anne of green gables and you start to reread it in ther nose. Then you tell her that you were searching for books for her and you came across this one but you are going to read it again FIRST so she can wait for it. Then you can read to her the first 2 pages but not as if you are going to turn the book immediatly to her but to explain why YOU found it so good.. I remember that book has a very dramatic start with Matthew and Marilla wanting a boy and then that ride to the other farmers house where Marilla would leave Anne. Thinking about it, I´ll see if I find it and will give it another reading.
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• Philippines
24 Feb 10
Well, when I was thirteen, the book that I was reading, and was highly recommended was Sweet Valley teens and High. I remember just buying all the books that is available in the bookstore. Pregnancy is not even an issue before.. I mean, at 13?! you were crazy when you say something like that. Times have definitely changed.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 10
I was reading Lord of the Rings. Over and over and over again! lol
• Amman, Jordan
24 Feb 10
good discussion in my mind ( the book is the great friend) this fact i can improve the brain and soul of my child. the book is good and trust friend, because you will take good thing only , and if you sad it will be by your side, help you and not to make noisy to you. if any body belive these words he will improve this fact. the good person who can help others , but if he empty , how can he do? the cultur and the knowledge that a person has, the treasure he will has. all time if any body want to success in any field of life , he must learn about to avoid mistakes.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Feb 10
All my children read, so I'm happy about that!
• Amman, Jordan
25 Feb 10
good news i hope they have good life
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• United States
3 Mar 10
My only opinion is that I believe you should never discourage literacy, especially with young people. That's all...
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Mar 10
I definitely agree with you there!
@pandaeyes (2065)
24 Feb 10
I was reading the silver brumby books around that age LOL My daughter at about 13 was all into Harry Potter and equally fantasy based stuff. She did really enjoy the diary of Anne Frank though and I think some books by chinese women about their real life childhoods.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
25 Feb 10
haven't heard of those, but she's already read Harry Potter and Anne Frank...
@pandaeyes (2065)
26 Feb 10
can't remember who writes the silver brumby books but if you have heard of the film my friend flicka, it was based on them. All about horses in the wilds. Sort of Watership down style. There were some quite junior cartoons based on them about 10 years ago but the books are much more for the teenage reader.
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• Australia
23 Feb 10
That doesn't seem like top reading for a 13 year old - or even an older girl. I guess the actual content of the book could change my mind, but 13 seems waaaaaay too young. It seems children are growing up faster, which is a great pity. Childhood should be a precious time of life as living skills are developed before the responsibilities of adulthood set in. It should be a time in which the carefree abandonment of a child's fantasies and the security and discipline of a loving family merge together to teach all the skills, values and ethics necessary to equip for true maturity. Today's society seems to want to eliminate the process and produce instant adults. Just as instant foods never have the same quality as home-made ones, so an instant adult will not have the same qualities as a "home-made" one. I am out of touch with teenage reading these days (and especially for girls) but I'm sure there are myriads of suitable books available. I found that "series" books kept them wanting to read the next and the next. For example Hardy Brothers for boys, but I'm sure there are more modern ones.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I have this huge library too, but dang it, I can't seem to get the girl interested in "old" books. Maybe I should just pick a few and shove them at her!!!
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
24 Feb 10
My daughter is 13 and there is no way that she would want to read something like that. She still watches Spongbob and other cartoons. She watches Icarly but that is about all of the "teen" stuff that she seems to be interested in. Of course, she enjoys her friends, roller skating, and her cell phone but still plays with kids a lot younger than herself too. I think that this says a lot for our society and I don't think that it is a positive thing. Kids need time to grow up without being pushed. My daughter is reading Heidi and loves it. She even asked for the movie. Tell your daughter too look at some historical fiction books if she enjoys that kind of book. Look at autobiographies on stars on "teen shows".
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 10
I gave her some of the ones that people had recommended that I actually already own and that got an OK reception...
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
24 Feb 10
Hi dawnald, I would say none of the above. I say it is a sign of the times and that we are finally realizing the importance of educating rather than protecting kids from the realities of life. Teen pregnancy is nothing new. Now rather than be ashamed of it like girls were in my day...well, they deliberately try to get pregnant. it doesn't matter. The end result is still the same....a young girl having a child that she has no clue or means to take care of.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 10
And so far Dearra thinks the very idea is stupid and repulsive, long may it stay that way!!!
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23 Feb 10
Hi dawnald, Well no wonder teens are getting pregnant these days with so much trash like that around for the young, they should be read fiction and exciting things, all too soon kids grow up and not have a childhood, after all 13 is still a child, so I think it a Bad thing to have books like that around. These books should be for mothers to prevent their young girls even thinking of doing things under age. Tamara
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
Maybe it's written with the intention to prevent teenage pregnancies, I don't know.
@doormouse (4599)
23 Feb 10
my 13 year old daughter likes to read books about child abuse and she also likes stephen king books aswell,i don't know why she likes these kind of books,but i don't mind her reading them,when i was her age i was reading The Diary Of Adrian Mole,but times change and kids grow up quicker these days,and as long as she does'nt get upset by these books,which she does'nt,then it's ok with me
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Feb 10
I don't have a problem with her reading such things, if she was interested, which she's not, but it's just ironic that it's the first thing that popped up!
@snoopyfan (1312)
• United States
24 Feb 10
That is very scary that is the first book to come up. You are right times have changed and and in this case not for the better. When I was that age and yes I am dating myself here. I was reading Black Stallion books and entering the world of Sweet Valley High. I don't think that book should be recommended to children of that age. I don't know if it is written to discourage but in the end you are going to have babies having babies.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
24 Feb 10
You're not as dated as I am! :-)