Obama pulls the "I won" card when told to remove special deals and bribes

@Taskr36 (13923)
United States
February 25, 2010 4:40pm CST
During today's discussion John McCain went into a litany of special deals and bribes used to get votes on the health care bill. He then suggested these special deals be removed so that people know that the quality of care they get under the bill will not be based on geography. Now Obama could have debated the point, but apparently that was too much for him. His response "Let me just make this point, John, because we're not campaigning anymore. The election is over." He then went on about how the process by which the bill was crafted is irrelevant and not something they should discuss regardless of how the American people feel about it. Do YOU care about the bribes in the bill? Do YOU care if certain states get special deals? Or are you like Obama, you just want a bill passed and couldn't care less what bribes and special deals are included? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/25/mccain-obama-face-off/?fbid=8NrWFjQmL-J
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@Tallygirl09 (1385)
• United States
25 Feb 10
EVERY bill that goes thru is rife with deals and bribes! That's the way Washington works. When I first realized just how many side deals and completely irrelevant add on's went into getting a bill passed, it made me very angry. I was young and very naive then. It's the way it's always been so why should healthcare reform be any different?
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
25 Feb 10
For the same reason EVERY bill should be different. Just because this is how it's been done for a long time doesn't mean we should sit on our hands and accept it. Fight for what's right. When politicians are corrupt they need to be called on it. Otherwise, you're just supporting and contributing to the corruption through your indifference.
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@coolcoder (2019)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Now Obama could have debated the point, but apparently that was too much for him. His response "Let me just make this point, John, because we're not campaigning anymore. The election is over." You're right, Barry. The campaign is over. Now why don't YOU stop campaigning and acting like a spoiled brat and recognize the fact that not everyone agrees with you or your socialist leaning? He then went on about how the process by which the bill was crafted is irrelevant and not something they should discuss regardless of how the American people feel about it. He's just shown himself for what he is--a man who cares about nothing except his own agenda, and everyone else be darned. Obama doesn't have any intention of holding a good debate with his opponents, and he just said it with that statement.
@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I pray that the average citizen who didn't have a clue before today figured him out! You are right; it's HIS AGENDA and he doesn't care whom he hurts in order to pass this bill and show he 'did something'. I love what Mary Madeline just said on CNN. She said, "I usually don't do this, but let them go ahead and pass this bill and they will lose both the house and senate in November." I really don't think they care or believe it could happen.
@Rollo1 (16650)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 Feb 10
Like most Americans, I was disgusted with the bribes and special deals used to garner votes for this legislation. That wasn't the only time during this summit that Obama shut down debate because he asserted he was just right and this wasn't the time to prove him wrong, this was the summit and no time to waste on facts. There was the head-shaking moment when he said that the Dems got more time to speak than Republicans because he's the President and he wasn't going to count his speaking time. He gets to talk all he wants. He shut down debate over the CBO report on premiums, stating he was sure he was right and there wasn't time to discuss it, just accept he was right. He made it clear that he's not concerned about the dirty deals, the closed-door politics or letting anyone disagree with the major points he was pushing. Well, I do care about those things and so do most of the voters. He just doesn't get it.
@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Hopefully, America picked up on the way that Obama treated the Republicans! And, to tell the Senator that he didn't know what he was talking about when he quoted those figures made me angry! He didn't want to hear from the Republicans - he only wanted to be on the stage to try and show them up! There isn't going to be any change, but a push to get this bill passed, come helll or high water!
@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I thought President Obama was very childish in saying that, considering he's been in campaign mode the entire year or more! He hasn't stopped! Obama is wrong in thinking it doesn't matter to we, the people in America, the way it was crafted! We all know it was done behind closed doors, and Republicans were locked out of the decision. I think most of the comments made by the Republicans today in the Summit were made fun of or they were told they weren't factual. They were trying to make it look as though the Republicans were in the wrong, knowing that most people out in the US won't go check out the statistics/facts. But I believe more are aware of what is going on with this health care bill than they think, considering the high number that disapprove of it! And,yes, I hate that they bribed some just to get their votes, but I also hold those that took the bribes accountable for their own wrong vote! I think it was Senator McCain that talked about the 800,000 FL residents who would continue to use Medicare Advantage although it would be done away with for the rest of the nation. This is wrong! And someone brought up the other bribes, but it was just blown over!
@Barb42 (4216)
• United States
25 Feb 10
Another thing I've been reading about on the Internet is the fact they might attach this bill to the budget bill and try and pass it that way! They are wanting to get this bill passed no matter what happens or what it costs the public! They are taken care of with good insurance coverage in the Congress and don't care, although one of the Democrats tried to get over his point that THIS would be the same kind of coverage they have! Give me a break!
@debrakcarey (19921)
• United States
14 Apr 10
Sorry I am late with this one Tasker. I heard this and could only think, I wish Mr. McCain had said, yes sir, but there's another one coming up soon.'
@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Comrade 0bama has never stopped campaigning. He is still in campaign mode, and despite his efforts the majority of Americans do not want this bill. 0bama may think that reconciliation and secret meetings are irrelevant but the majority of Americans take great offense at such things. We are fed up with the corruption in government, the bribes, the deal making and the idea that government knows better than we do about what we want or need. This healthcare bill is not about the people, it is about 0bama, because he made healthcare his signature issue. If he fails to get it rammed through, then it showed that he failed. That is why he is so determined in the face of such great opposition to get this bill passed no matter what. 0bama is so far out of touch with the people and with reality that he can see nothing other than his own blind America-hating ideology. He is in truth a narcissist and an elitist who thinks that he will rescue us from ourselves. His messiah complex is already proving to be his undoing as his own party is turning away from him. How is it that up until just recently he had a filibuster proof super-majority in Congress and has not yet managed to get his healthcare passed? He can't really blame the republicans.... because even if every republican had opposed his healthcare, there were enough democrats to ensure it's passage. That leaves the democrats... and if the democrats can't support this 2700 page monstrosity, then you know it HAS to be really bad. Even now, Nazi Piglosi says that she is not sure that she has the votes for passage. McCain made some very good points... yet 0bama did not want to hear them, because the whole thing was a setup and a sham, and 0bama's decision was already made before that so-called discussion even began.
@clrumfelt (5452)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I think Obama was rude to John McCain and that he was completely dodging the question and trying to avoid taking responsibility for the corruptness that he knows is in the bill. I do care if there are bribes in the bill. I care if citizens of some states get special rights we are going to pay for but not get to partake in. Those bribes cost us a lot of money. They should be illegal, even in Congress! This health care bill is the biggest fiasco ever to be concocted and I hope it disappears and takes some crooked politicians down with it.
@cripfemme (7713)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I agree with another poster that it's part of the deal in Washington, but I also support McCain in the fact that in an ideal world we wouldn't have them so everyone would treated the same. That seems more American to me.
@irishidid (8716)
• United States
26 Feb 10
Of course he doesn't care. If he cared he would have let a better candidate run for president.
@debrakcarey (19921)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I saw that, and I also saw how the other Rebpublicans were cut short, interrupted and basically treated rudely by our fearless leader and Mr. Reid. I'm glad someone else saw that our President plain doesn't care about what the American public thinks. If I'd have been there as Sen. McCain I'd have said, 'yes Mr. President, but there is another election coming up sooner than you think, don't you feel it's time to be honest with America?' But I am not Sen. McCain.
• United States
25 Feb 10
I saw it and laughed. He did exactly what he was accusing McCain of doing. Show boat and skirting the real issue. McCain brought up a good point. The bribes and special deals need to go. They are wrong. IT IS IMPORTANT how the deal is made. The process DOES MATTER. Obama stuck his foot in his mouth with that one. Most of america is MAD about how the "process" (bribes and special deals) were made. We think it is important. Look like Obama does not care. But of course he could really could not say much. McCain had him fair and square on that one. Obama knew it. Obama was not about to say...yep you are right John..those were dirty tricks and we should not have done it. It would have been nice if Obama would have said it....I would have respected him more for it. But he didn't. He took up for it.
@hofferp (4737)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I care a great deal about all the billions of dollars worth of bribes in this so-called health care reform bill...that's why I've volunteered to help Steve Pearce (R), candidate for the 2nd Congressional District in NM. (A first for me to help any political candidate.) We need to vote these people out and get some in who are listening to the American taxpayer.