what the extreme right led to

@jb78000 (15163)
March 4, 2010 1:03am CST
when it got significant power last time. yep, one of the nastiest events in human history. i know especially in america the extreme left is viewed with more suspicion, and it too has led to atrocities. but don't you think we should be careful? viciousness towards immigrants, homosexuals, a religion slightly different from your own, could lead to something awful...
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@pandaeyes (2068)
4 Mar 10
I think it needs a balance. Of course people must be allowed to have their own choices in life but not if it involves violence towards those who choose differently. That is the problem with either extreme. One is always seen as bad and the other good. On TV once, there was a documentary with little children and a teacher. She was trying to explain about the war in very simple terms and tried an experiment. She had to tell parents of course and get their permission for the experiment first. She stood at the front of the class and said, all children with brown eyes are better than the ones who don't have brown eyes. The children looked into each others faces, smiley brown eyes and worried non brown eyed children. Then it was playtime and the brown eyed children were all laughing and dancing around and even being quite mean to the non brown eyed children. After play, they went back indoors and their teacher when all was quiet said, well I am sorry but I made a very silly mistake! It is the non brown eyed children who are the best! Some of the non brown eyed kids looked elated but some seemed uncomfortable with this new information. The teacher continued with the lesson and they let the kids have a little informal break again to discover how it would change things. It was almost a reversal of the first scene. After they were all back in the classroom the teacher told them that actually,everyone was best,there were no better people. Everyone was happy to hear that. Then she explained about the war and how the same kind of bullying had hurt so many people because one side was considered best and the other worst.
• Canada
4 Mar 10
Hey Pandaeyes, I saw that documentary. WOW, it was amazing wasnt it??? I sure hope it didnt left the children traumatized by this experiment.
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@pandaeyes (2068)
5 Mar 10
I think they carefully watched during break to make sure things didn't get out of hand. Hopefully any children who might be bullies anyway,learned something about themselves.
@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
i have heard of this experiment - tells you a lot about human nature doesn't it?
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Mar 10
Actualy we are pretty fortunate here in that the extreme right doesn't really get anything in the way of real political power. We do have a few extreme leftists in right now as advisors and one was just apointed to a deficit advisory board. They also seem to get a sympathetic ear with some in DC.
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@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Mar 10
One of the most dangerous things we can do is to say "it can't happen here". I think the moment a nation adopts that false sense of security it becomes vulnerable to that very threat.
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Mar 10
lol, that phrase works. I'll make a note to get you some crystal polish for christmas this year.
@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
you made some very accurate predictions a few months ago mystictony
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@irishidid (8716)
• United States
4 Mar 10
It goes both ways. The extremes of either side are not good and have big mouths with no common sense. On the extreme left you get fascism and on the extreme right you get anarchy. Neither work.
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@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
facism is the extreme right. communism is the extreme left. things are not always so simple though, as several have pointed out in this discussion.
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• United States
4 Mar 10
If any of this has taught it anything it is this...power corrupts. When teh republicans had the white house, congress and senate the power went to their heads and bad things happened. Same thing has happened to the democrats. So it teaches me this.. 1. We need a better level of character and maturity in our politicans. 2. No side needs a great majority. They are not mature enough to handle it. They turn into power mad monsters.
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@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
a coelition government as found in some other countries often seems a rather good idea for this very reason.
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@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
4 Mar 10
I think we could use a good dose of moderation on both sides. But what I find most disturbing about the right wing is the total lack of compassion. It's hard to believe that there can be a religious tie in without any semblance of the Golden Rule.
• United States
4 Mar 10
Actually most people I know who are on the "right" are very compassionate. In their personal lives. They just don't believe in government being a charity orgainzation. They think charity should be left to individuals and is a choice. When the government makes you give up your money ( or face big trouble from the IRS) it is not a choice..when the government decides how and who it is spent on ...it is not a choice. it is a demand. charity is being dictated to you. When the government decides how much you are going to give...well where are the choices in any of that? Charity is great. But it should be left to each person to decide what charity they give to....who they help....and how much they give. Forced charity...is not really charity. It is theft.
@irisheyes (4372)
• United States
4 Mar 10
I did not say one single word about charity here. I said there was a total lack of compassion. Great recent example - Jim Bunning's remark as he held up the money thousands needed to exist - Tough Sh*t. I'm not even passing judgement on what he did but certainly he didn't show an ounce of compassion. Right now on here people are complaining about recent proposed postal cut backs. Of course it's all the fault of the high salaries and they don't want their tax dollars wasted any more. Never mind that the post office isn't funded with tax dollars. All I hear from the right is how everything meant to help folks out is coming from their pockets. I even hear that when they write off every dime. I didn't mention charity but you did so let's take a look at that. Maybe I just don't know what charities are funded by the right. Enlighten me. Who on the extreme right is giving the millions and millions of dollars privately that can match a Catholic Charities campaign or an Allied Jewish Appeal drive? Those people are always there when there is need and they do not restrict their generosity to their own kind. All I read about on the right is televangelists building empires with contributions from church members but nothing about what is being done for the needy in the local or world community?
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Mar 10
Irish.....important question...who in your mind fits the definition of "extreme right"?
@dawnald (84076)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Mar 10
I'm slowly but surely translating a series of letters that belonged to my great-grandfather. They are in German, old script, from a cousin who was still living in Germany. They date back to 1922 and 1923 and talk about how awful the conditions were there during that time. Reading those letters I can totally understand how the people in Germany rallied around anybody who not only promised them a better life, but for some period of time actually delivered on the promises. Fast forward to 2010 and my online friends in the good old U S of A. People out of a job. People losing their homes. People barely hanging on by a thread. People with really sick children they can't do a lot for. Companies outsourcing jobs to other countries. The haves, the have nots and not much in between. And how easy it is to go from being a have to a have not. It can't happen in this country? There is a whole population of disenfranchised have nots looking for something, anything that will fix things. Sound familiar?
@xfahctor (14126)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Mar 10
"It can't happen in this country" You make a pretty valid point. I think one of the most dangerous things we can do is adopt that mentality.....
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@spalladino (17922)
• United States
4 Mar 10
Yes, we do need to be careful and I'm always uncomfortable when one party has significant voting power over the other.
@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
too much power in one group is dangerous i think
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
4 Mar 10
Anytime you have extremists in power, no matter which side, it is dangerous. But I do want to point something out - viciousness towards immigrants, homosexuals, a religion slightly different from your own, could lead to something awful.. The right is not against these people. They simply want personal RESPONSIBILITY. Big difference.
@jb78000 (15163)
8 Mar 10
your interpretaion of the right is different. at least in this country this sums up the right, well the extreme right, pretty closely. and i am not sure but certain elements in you country show something similar, at judging from what i have seen on here. not you or most i'll admit.
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@hofferp (4737)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I view both extremes with suspicion. I neither want communism/fasism nor do I want anarchy. Both extremes are intolerant of others. There has to be a balance; and yes, we must always be on the look out for smooth talkers taking us down one path too far or the other. Right now, I'm concerned that we're headed too far down the path to socialism. A few years ago, I was concerned that we were headed too far down the path to fasism. We must always be alert.
@jennybianca (12913)
• Australia
5 Mar 10
I dont like the extreme right in the US. I dont like them in Australia either, but I think we have far less than in the US. They are nutters. They spread viscious ideas about minority ethnic groups and other religions. We had a politician years ago, a woman who became quite powerful. She was extreme right. She was all for the white australia policy, jobs for Australians & not immigrants, etc. She couldnt face reality that Australia is based on immigration from many countries, including non-white, that our own indigenous people are dark' and that many, many non -white imigrants have worked extremely hard in Australia and greatkly contributed to our country. This politician ended up loosing her job.
• United States
5 Mar 10
Well I have a lot of things to say about this, I think first of all every form of extremism or fanaticism is good, for example, Nazi party were in one extreme and communism has been in other extreme, both have bring awful things to the human beings, we all know how many victims the fascism bring in the 40's, but the communism also have done a lot of harm, I am from Cuba, which everybody knows, the communist regime has done awful things, when I first abandoned the country, I really could taste the freedom for the first time, people here in USA don't know what is that, because they take freedom for granted, but I can tell you that you really see the difference, as I said before every form of fanaticism can be devastating for the country, we should maintain ourselves in the center, and don't think that our views are absolute right, or that we are better than anybody else. However I disagree with you about blaming immigrants, homosexuals and people with different religion for all the wrong things in our society. I am immigrant myself and I am a good citizen, I am professional and educated, pay my taxes, and there are many people like me out here, people that are willing to work in order to make this one a better society, and don't ever forget, that in America ( and I am talking about the whole continent), everybody that is not native American is an immigrant, the only one difference that you guys got here before us
• United States
4 Mar 10
The dictomy of otrocities and justice are the history of the United States. The constitution has allowed an evolution of tyhopught and action mostly unparelleled in history. The constitution gives the aim of existence as to pursue our inalienable rights and pursue justice and strive for our best selves. The right are bullies who see things in one way like people who believe only they are entitled.
• Canada
4 Mar 10
Reading what everybody has to say about the horrors that happened and could still happen makes me want to go to bed and stay there. I dont want to lose my freedom. Thats all Im asking for. Im not radical in anything, I dont kill anyone, I dont take whats not mine, I pay my taxes and I practice my religious beliefs in the privacy of my home. If we all lived this way, there wouldnt be any problems!!
@urbandekay (18308)
4 Mar 10
We must strike a delicate balance between tolerance and affirming our own beliefs A country with diverse cultural imputs is rich and tolerant. The fallacy of multiculturalism, on the other hand, leads to ghettos and hatred. all the best urban