Why does the land of Palestine belong to the Jews?
March 6, 2010 4:53pm CST
God made a covenant to the people of Moses for a homeland in the area of Palestine. Are these people the modern Jew? Or are they a reference to the 12 tribes formed from the Jacobites? A promise was made in the Bible. Surely, God does promote unity and tolerance among people, so how can He promote a policy to snatch land from a set of people who live on it? A promise was made in the Bible - was this not made to the followers of Moses, where no Christians or Muslims even existed? If this is the case, and all these people who were once Jew, it is not plausible to assume that Jews would have become Christian and subsequently Muslim in these lands? Yet they still believe in Moses. And yes they may be decended from the Children of Israel or Jacobites. In this regard, the Palestinians and Arabs could themselves belong to the chosen people for this land. Far fetched ? Think about it.
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6 Mar 10
The land, was called Palestine by the British when we liberated the area from the Turks , for historical reasons. At that time there were no Palestinians but largely migrant Arabs. Initially the Arabs signed an agreement with the British for a two state solution but later reneged on this agreement claiming that all the land must be theirs. Jewish immigrants had been moving into this area since the 19th century and Jerusalem was undoubtably predominantly Jewish. Much land that Jews occupied was purchased from Turks and Arabs. The promise of God is clearly to the Jews. Initial Jewish settlements in the area lived without armed forces until unprovoked attacks by Arabs forced them to create militia The establishment of Jewish settlement lead to an influx of Arabs. Following the establishment of the internationally recognised independent state of Israel neighbouring Arab nations expelled their criminals and undesirables into the Palestinian area. There can be no doubt that the area now belongs to Israel. all the best urban
7 Mar 10
Arabs were generally hospitable to Jews for centuries - they lived with each other. The local population had been there for centuries - stemming from Jewishh and Christian origins as well. Arabs did not attack, they responded to the plight of the refugees, and this in 1949. But why did happen? Because of a historical promise which needs to tested to who these people actually are - and surely by peaceful means ? Correct?
8 Mar 10
Hi Makro, How can anyone believe in a God who would choose one group of people over another? How can anyone believe that God wants all the people who aren't Jews, and whose ancestors have lived there for thousands of years, to be driven out of the country so Jews alone can come and settle there? That is what I would call far fetched. Blessings.
8 Mar 10
Thanks Pose for that, This is also a good point, one group over another - we are all humans Jewish, Christian and Muslim alike, we are all human brothers and therefore God's creation of mankind is to worship God as one entity. Worship however takes differing forms and according to your faith and belief will determine how practice this worship. But this is a matter for the individual and His Creator. No one is to impose their own faith or ideals on another. Mere discussion and persuasion should be left at the debating table, not leading the war-like tendencies or superior or inferior complexes. This is the Will of God. Therefore, your point, 'how can anyone believe that God.....' is exactly what is a mystery, to why one set of people can actually assume their rights over another and assume this is Godly. Especially the modern Jew - you would have thought that after six million of their following were mercilessly slaughtered, just for Hitler's policy of driving them out and destroying them- you would expect them to have more respect for others. It is certainly not Godly. It is certainly far fetched when you assume a group of lads in school disturb the peace by completing taking over the school yard at lunchtime, smoking and drinking with loud music, but exclusive to their select group. Anyone who disturbs can disturbs them can expect severe repurcussions - and the teachers look on supportively. The only country to behave in this manner is Israel with the US backing it.
26 Nov 10
Palestine was not divided but annexed, and Jews were superior in the state of Israel. Refugees were created, and refugee camps. In India, Muslims and Hindus were divided into a country born out of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (before East Pakistan). In Israel, Palestinians were effective thrown out, property confiscated and deeds unrecognised. Jewish tenants had automatic rights to Palistinian properties, without the necessatity to pay for it.