Confederates - the new minority?
By laglen
@laglen (19759)
United States
March 29, 2010 11:21am CST
[i](March 26) -- I live in the South. I love the South. And even I think this is beyond stupid.
A group called The Southern Legal Resource Center is attempting to "defend the rights of Southerners to honor their culture and heritage" by convincing hillbillies with an apparent IQ between 12 and 60 to name their ethnicity as "Confederate Southern American" on the 2010 census.
Right, because this went so well when Jefferson Davis was their president.
A group called The Southern Legal Resource Center is calling on self-proclaimed "Confederates" to name their ethnicity as "Confederate Southern American" on the 2010 census.
Last time I checked, the Confederacy had been tossed in American history's Dumpster. When you fail to make your own state, you don't get to claim to be from there, folks. And that should just be that.
I have to continue railing on these idiots. Listen up, "Southern" Americans: You are not oppressed. You do not deserve special consideration as an ethnicity. If you believe you do, you're either a) manipulating the stupid for your own means, or b) you are the stupid who are being manipulated. Knock it off.
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/southern-group-wants-confederates-listed-as-minority-status-on-the-census/19416203[/i]
What do you think? Should they be given minority status? I think we need to get rid of the term minority as our country is based on diversity, a melting pot.
What do you think?
10 responses
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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29 Mar 10
Surely all Americans are just that - American. Your strength is in your diversity and to start to identify yourself based on a political bias and low IQ is to my mind insulting to all those people, north and south who have worked hard to make the US what it is. Where do you stop? I'll sign off now: P1kef1sh (Acquatic Southern English Chalk Stream with gravel redd natal slightly below the bridge Esox Lucius)!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
29 Mar 10
nope. There is native american, african american, asian, hispanic, caucasion.
I dont get it. I am not from caucasus.
Cau·ca·sian (kô-kzhn, -kzhn)
adj.
1.
a. Anthropology Of or being a human racial classification distinguished especially by very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. See Usage Note at race1.
b. Of or relating to a racial group having white skin, especially one of European origin; white.
2. Of or relating to the Caucasus region or its peoples, languages, or cultures.
3. Of or relating to a group of three language families spoken in the region of the Caucasus mountains, including Chechen, Abkhaz, and the Kartvelian languages.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Caucasian
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I do agree with you on the issue of minority status...it's really unnecessary in this day and age. If "Confederate Southern American" can be an ethnicity then I demand that "Chesapeake Bay Blue Crab Loving Marylander" also be declared as one. 
@jb78000 (15139)
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30 Mar 10
do you have an 'other' box to tick? and if so do you have a place to write? if so everybody will be happy, and the census takers can put together figures to show how america is built up of 'african american', 'caucasion' 'asian american' 'native american' 'hispanic' and 'annoying' people 
@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
30 Mar 10
"Defend the rights of Southerners to honor their culture and heritage." Waht culture and heritage? I guess it must be the culture and heritage of making sure that others whom they used to use to boost their sense of self worth are always beneath them (as they continue to fancy that they can always box other humans)!
@jmowreader (83)
• United States
30 Mar 10
If they would like to be Confederates, let them be Confederates. But as foreign citizens, they will simply have to get passports and work visas, apply for H1B status like other foreign citizens do, and be deported back to wherever it is their ancestors came from if they lose their jobs.
@jmowreader (83)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I currently live in the Sandhills of North Carolina. Their ancestors, hundreds and hundreds of years ago, largely came from Scotland. There are a LOT of McLaurins and McMillans and other Mc-names here. We even have McDonalds, and not just the ones with the arches and cheap food. So yes, Scotland would be quickly overpopulated.
@jb78000 (15139)
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29 Mar 10
the ethnicity question is really asking about your identity, what group do you identify with?, and i think people should be able to put whatever they like. as gewcew said in many cases you have lots of options. using myself as an example, and just going on nationality i sometimes have to choose between 'scottish', 'english' and 'british'. any would fit - i'm half of each of the first two, have one of their accents and was raised in the other. both are british.
btw what is 'minority status'?
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
29 Mar 10
Alas for them, "Confederate" is not a nationality because the treason that created the fiction of Confederate States was illegitimate, therefore null and void. There is no Confederate nationality, only the children of traitors.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Mar 10
Ummm...you do KNOW that it is LEGAL to leave the "united states of america"? Or at least it was BEFORE the civil war. Our forefathers set it up that way...we were suppost to be independent "country-states" that were loosely held together by a "small federal government". Not what you see today. Most of hte power and decisions were to be held by the states...not the federal governmet.
that is one of the arguements over the civil war...that it was legal for the states to leave...but not legal for the federal government to force them to come back...but you know about wars...who ever wins is right.
Personally I think the whole thing was avoidable. But hotheads on both sides forced into a bigger issue than it had to be.
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
29 Mar 10
Are you sure you're not thinking of the Confederacy the founders tried and then abandoned in favor of a Federation because the Confederate government couldn't get anything done? Before the Slaver's Treason, the question of whether or not a State could seceede had not been tested. Some people may have thought they had a right of secession, there was clearly a lack of consensus on the topic.
The only way I can see it having been avoided would be if the free states had refused to form a union with slaver states in the first place, but that had it's own problems. Once we made that devil's bargain, war was inevitable.
(Please don't tell me that the war wasn't about slavery: the thing being asserted as a "states right" was the right to hold slaves and four of the traitor states published Declarations of "Independence" that explicitly stated it was about slavery.)
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
30 Mar 10
The states are suppost to be apart of the country...because they want to..not becuase they HAVE to. Infact...Texas was not even sure they wanted to be part of the US...so in order to get them to join..our federal government put in their contract that they could "leave anytime they wanted". That contract still stands to this day. Texas can walk anytime it wants. If they do the federal government can not do anything without being in breach of contract.Not that would stop the feds.
There are also states that vote every few years wether or not to stay (it actual in their state constitutions that they do the vote). It is done by the state house of representatives. Sure it is probly symbolic...and no state has ever voted to leave sence the civil war...but they still vote. Wonder what would happen if a state decide to leave.
I think it is pretty hypocritical if our federal government to recognize all these places in the world that declare their independance from other countries, thereby forming their own countries...yet would stop one or more of the states here from doing it here. It is ok for it to happen in the rest of the world...but not here. Not that I want it to happen. I am not in any way saying that should happen. But it is hypocritical.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
29 Mar 10
Well Confederates must be a very small minority because I have yet to meet one. Now if I ever meet Robert E. Lee then fine I will address him as a Confederate, or even any of his troop.
By the way what if you where 1/5 Caucasian, 1/5 Asia, 1/5 African, 1/5 Native American, and 1/5 Hispanic, what would you fill in?
@scarlet_woman (23465)
• United States
30 Mar 10
great..divide the nation even further.
no they should not.if they get that,then my area should get "original 13" minority.
sounds like one step closer to trying to seceed again.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Mar 10
I don't see why we have to put our race on the census at all. They are counting Americans. Well we are all Americans. What race am I? Well I am a part of the "human" race. I wonder how much of the race issues in this country is due to how much we have to identify ourselves as part of a skin color group. Think about it...when you sign up for college, do your taxes, get a job, when I signed my kids up for school. We are conditioned to group ourselves by our skin color. Just a thought.
As for the "confederate southern american". LOL. Anyone who thinks the civil war is not alive and well has not spent any real time in the deep south. Want to see people worse than that? Go to Charleston. I know a lot of Charlestonians that still consider themselves under "enemy occupation". It is a part of their culture almost. Especially with the ones whose family generaions are from the area going all the way back to the civil war. They love to say Lee may have surrendered...but we didn't. Which if you know the history of that city before, during and after the civil war..you know it is true.
You will see it more in cities where the "reconstruction" was perticularly nasty after the war.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
29 Mar 10
I'm tired of the word "minority"...it's just another way to try and redistribute the wealth of this country. You won't find me declaring my minority status as a German-Russian American. I'm an American...my grandparents were German Russian, then they became legal American citizens in the early 1900s.
