How Obama plans to pay for Health Care

@bobmnu (8157)
United States
April 8, 2010 3:27pm CST
People are slowly realizing that the Health Care Bill is going to cost more than projected as it is explained to us. In the reconciliation bill there is the Doctor Fix will cost upwards of 500 billion dollars. The Corn Husker Kick Back is not out but is expanded to cover more states. What happens when the Health Insurance Co quit the business and the Federal government has to pick up the bill? As more and more cost start to appear and the program needs more money where will the money come from? They will look to Europe for guidance. Europe has a unique tax called the Value Added Tax or VAT. The VAT is a tax that is applied to every step of the production of a product. The tax is a percent and usually it is low. Let’s assume a 1% tax. If you are making a car you need steel. When the iron ore is mined a tax is applied to the value of the ore. If the ore is worth $100 a ton then a $1.00 tax is applied. The ore is smelted into iron and the iron and increased the value by $300 and is now worth $401 (the tax is carried over each time and taxes) and the tax is applied and sold for $405.01. The next step is to make the iron into steel. The value of the new steel is now, with the tax added, $611.05. The steel has to be process into sheet steel to make the car bodies. This increases the value to $819.16, with the tax added. In this example the government collects $19.16 in taxes on the steel. If it were a sales tax paid (1% tax) on the final product, in this cas the sheet steel would generate $8.00 in tax while the VAT tax would give them $11.16 more. You can see why they like the VAT tax. In Europe the VAT range is up to 25%. You can see why the government would like this tax. If you figure all the components that go into a car or truck and then tack on 1% more to the final value and all the tax is hidden in the price of the car. Then, when you are signing the final papers to purchase the car the dealer adds the state, county and city sales tax, and you will be paying the sales tax on the value of the car and the VAT tax. The VAT is sometimes called the great hidden tax, because you never know how much you are paying and if the government changes the rate just a little it generates a huge increase in tax revenue.
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@elmiko (6630)
• United States
8 Apr 10
lol, the health insurance companies are not going to quit the business. they will still make enough money to stay around. the heatlhcare reform plan is a long term approach. it maybe overwhelming looking at first but it will get better over time. costs will be lowered and more people will have insurance that otherwise wouldn't have it.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Apr 10
so after we, our kids and our grandkids pay for this, it will be good? I look forward to it. Thanks for the good news
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
9 Apr 10
If this plan is so good and will pay for its self and even reduce the deficit then why do we need more taxes?
• United States
9 Apr 10
Would love to know how you think this will make the price of health care go down, because as far as I can see, it will make Insurance companies A LOT less profit, It raises the amount of IRS jobs to make sure people have insurance (jobs that need to be payed for) and there are becoming fewer and fewer doctors. Not only that, but the ten year rate of this plan is scheduled to pretty much start this year, even though the act doesn't go into full effect until between 2014-2016. The debt is much higher from there. And when you consider the two main things pushing our national budget to a deficit are Medicare and Social security, How does it figure that adding MORE cash to like programs will DECREASE the amount we pay? There isn't even any preventative plans in place to help the people who could have avoided it from needing to go to the hospital. We should have figured on preventative first, and then lowering costs. And encouraged more Americans to donate to special organizations that would help families who need health care for hereditary and less preventable diseases. THAT is what should have happened.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Apr 10
What a relief that Obama will not raise taxes on us! whew. It amazes me that they think this is ok. People are losing their jobs, their houses, cant afford food - "hey lets raise taxes!" How does this process reconcile in their heads? I am so confused. Maybe they think that now we all own parts of car companies, we should be flush...
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
9 Apr 10
He will only raise taxes on those who have the money. If you have money he will take it and give part to those who don't have any and keep the rest. He wants to be like Hugo Chavez.