2012

Its somewhat out of your control. But think of devasting earthquakes of today - not actually more catastrophic - its just the population is higher, macines that detect them more sensitive - cities larger to accomadate more people - and the buildings and infrastructure not built up to code. There are actually ways to build and types of houses that are more earthquake and wind proof. Like Dome homes. If earthquakes or other disasters don't kill you but cut you off from food supplies you are going to want food and a way to protect yourself and your food. So no, not useless, but i do appreciate your opinion. Some don't have food just for a few week, many people are already growing food and even fish in their own homes - like earthberm homes - off the grid - not relying on electricity from the big companies but they have solar and wind power and back up batteries and generators. They grow their own food - within the home and even have talapia ponds that get their water from the gray water inside your home - and collect rain water as well. So these people are fully self sufficient, and sometimes somewhat isolated - outside of cities where the masses might be panicking at a dangeroud level. It is funny about the money - but people panic - I think they may try to take it out before anything happens - just in case it does. Thats why some think it will be more of a financial crisis - either from people panicking because they think something may happen - or the market crashing. All of these things would lead to unrest and violence - people, as you pointed out - will try to get what other people have - so living directly in heavily populated areas wouldn't be the smartest thing. I so agree with your last paragraph - which is why I like off grid, self sufficient homes like dome homes and earth berm homes - you can look them up. You can comfortable live cozily in temperature stable homes with tv and internet - with out being hooked up to the grid. Grow your own food. I think we should enjoy every moment, tell people you love them everyday - but preparation is not a bad thing. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best as the saying goes. That way you have no concern or anxiety - no late night what ifs. What if the economy collapses and crime rates soar. what if we get hit by a huge snow storm larger then we've ever seen or just one that knocks the grid electriicity out for days. chaknow?

look at these and you'll find they are not hobbit houses. http://www.gardenatriums.com/ http://earthship.com/buildings/buy-an-earthship/474.html http://earthship.com/begin-here/corner-cottage-earthship-nightly-rental http://www.comingunmoored.com/2009/02/my-night-in-an-earthship/ - this one has no separation between planters and rest of earthship - better if there is separation! the phoenix earthship watch the video - its of completed ship http://www.taosearthships.com/80750.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpId9ZrT0Ak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvf2Ka9hQI you mentioned some in your previous one that these can prepare for like earthquake. Nuclear and meteoric is quite another thing - or if there was a mass volcanic eruption that placed ash across the globe and prohibited growing. There are things that can grow without sunlight. As for those that don't - that is why having a good store of food is essential. Some dome homes have their own indoor talapia (reynold's designed homes) pond inside run through a gray water system. In a certain amount of time and digging into the soil its possible to grow after nuclear catastrophies. I suppose you would have to rely on S.C.U.P.P generator or other generator - its an underground generator and many older homes have NBC shelters. Smaller ones can be purchased for a reasonable price or you could split the cost of a larger one with your community or family. Not everyone tapping into greener lifestyles have the "means". They build their own - these homes are made of recylcled materials - tires, popcans etc. Which of course makes them even more green. The goverment gives a great tax grant and yearly tax break for these homes and off grid systems. There are manufactured homes - those modular homes built under the controlled enviroment of their indoor plants rather then outdoors that are offgrid and reasonably priced - under 100,000 - cavco freedom solar, ihouse is another. In places like the state of NM you can "buy the wind" you use a wind generator and energy receive over what you need is bought back by the energy companies. so it is available. Maybe no last minute grabbing or hoardiing will make a difference or maybe it will and those will be the few to survive - although most survivalists don't do things at the last minute but are prepared always. As for grabbing - it will happen - i think it will happen whether there turns out to be catastrophe or not - I think people will panic! The ones who won't panic are those who are secure in their faith and/or those who have taken the time to prepare. I appreciate what you say about taking others lives - I would not either - although I waould want to protect my son at all costs. It is sad that conventional loans can't help buy these houses so they are closed to most! Unless, one chooses to build one themselves. I love your answer too! I love those who are aware! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpId9ZrT0Ak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvf2Ka9hQI

now thats what i call a response ... lovely and thank you.... Am aware of some of the measures we could take and the little homes you mentioned., like bein hobbits lol.. and agree that ther is no harm in preparation., but its choosing to be prepared for the correct one., that has led me to have given you a laid back response., and hope that it wasnt taken as a put down. in any way.. just which wone can you most prepae for... if volcanic/nuclear/meteroric then no light to grow, unless you have underground set ups which would take vast amounts of money and energy . which would bring low temperatures so thermals would be useful ....and all sources of normal water and food supplies contaminated....etc etc so the point i would make is that we should change the way we live now., and stop being consumers of natural resources and a throw away society., but more aware of our mark and effect on the environment., Those with the means and knowledge to be more isolated and tap into more responsible and greener ways of supporting them selves i respect admire and wish that goverments could make the rest of the populace aware and educated and start making the alternatives available, . but that not going to happen all to soon... in global disaster scenario pretty much most of us are wasted., but humanity will survive and give the earth and environment a rest... So wishing those who can and are, the best of luck, and respect. but the truth of the matter is no panic., no last minute grabbing or hording will change the inevitable until global comunities actual work tgether in preparation. therefore to me no amount of what ifs will put anything right., and being good to oe another cant be bad, for any reason. perhaps this discussion will touch others and they will look up and begin to think, personally i know i not in any position to change things formyself right now, and do not intend to panic or loose sleep. will be as pleasnt to others as can be and what will be will be., funny though am the sort that would actually fight very hard to survive, but would not take others lives, as others do and would. thank you for your educational response and for posing the question in the first place, and any green or eco homes are prefferable but beyond my means at this time.. but as come from a small english country side town., am more aware of nature and so forth., and my interests is with the care of others and our surroundings... so dome homes and earth berm homes rock .... best regards xxx

My husband thinks if there is something to the prophecies its tied to the financial crisis, which could turn into a major catastrophe like the Great Depression. It could lead to an increase in violent crimes - people being out of work and out of luck and grumpy and needing money. More banks shutting down then the ones that have done so already. I still think there are people worried - the internet is rife with blogs and websites dedicated to it along with ALOT of readers and participants. When nothing happens they will look towards the next year - I think 2021 as the "end".

Yes well I hear alot about an asteroid called Apophis will hit the Earth in I don't remember what year ... I think 2029 if I'm not mistaking. And if that wont be the end they're just going to keep inventing stuff like the end is coming. The end of the world wouldn't be a big deal with all those nuclear bombs in the world.

No I think the 2021 was the date for the Mayan prophecies - in case we miscalculated - again. It was supposed to be the year 2000, now 2012. I just wonder if the fear of 2012 as its been built up even more then Y2K will be enough to bring world wide fear and violence and people pulling money out of the bank and disrupting financial markets.

My husband, as I say in my conversation starter, iss more worried about a financial crisis. A downward economy can mean an upward spiral of bad crime - people wanting what you ahve because they have nothing. Chaknow? Its good that you keep mone on hand though just in case.

that's why some old houses are built with shelters underneath