Vularity does not equal passion

@dragon54u (31633)
United States
June 8, 2010 8:19am CST
There have been loads of complaints lately that President Obama has no compassion, no feeling and no empathy towards tragedies like the oil spill in the Gulf. There have been polls taken and publicized and apparently the WH has taken note. So how we have this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/08/barack-obama-kick-a$$-gulf A short excerpt: "I don't sit around just talking to experts because this is a college seminar, we talk to these folks because they potentially have the best answers so I know whose a$$ to kick," the president said. This is very un-presidential and embarrassing, at least to me. Vulgarity is not the way to express passion. What do you think? How do you think he could have gotten the point across in a more presidential manner? Is this all a ploy to appear to be passionate because people have accused him of being cold and devoid of emotion? (if you copy and past the link you will have to replace the $ signs with "s")
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@artistry (4151)
• United States
8 Jun 10
..Hi there dragon, Here ids my little opinion. Those who don't like this man will never ever find anything to like about him, he could walk on water and as someone said, they would say he can't swum. So be it. He didn't cause the d**n spill, in fact if people would be honest, it goes back to Cheney and his non-energy policy, when they allowed the oil companies to write their own ticket and set up the permits. BP was also involved in the Alaskan spill as well, Haliburton, Cheney's cash cow is involved as well. What this President says, who cares, he gets no credit from those who dislike him and never will. He could recite scriptures and they would complain. It took seven presidents and 40 years to get health care, did they applaud him, no, still complaining. He works harder trying to clean up the mess he inherited than any president I have seen, I could care less about what he says. This oil mess will cripple the U.S. and I don't blame him one bit. Neither does what he say offend me in the slightest. Yak, yak, yak, complain, complain. He has already made history, Nobel Prize before one year, health care after 40 years. I hope he does only have one term and goes home, writes his books becomes a multi-millionaire, lives a long time, enjoy his grandchildren and let someone else be a victim of ungrateful, unthankful people who really don't deserve this smart man. They should have been able to keep W for another 8 years, he was right up their alley, incompetent and worse. Most would have been happy if only for one reason. Take care.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
Now Artistry, you know we didn't want 8 more years of Bush! We wanted something different and that's why Obama was elected. I wish him the best and like you, hope he has a wonderful life after the presidency but I think he is very misguided and has no idea how to run a business, let alone a country. Of course, lots of presidents have had that problem but they surrounded themselves with people who DID know how to do it. Mr. Obama doesn't have good people around him and so we have a lot of things wrong. I don't think he is a bad man, he just wants this country to go places that we don't want to go. We'll agree to disagree about this president, ok? And when he does something great, I'll be the first one to praise him.
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@artistry (4151)
• United States
8 Jun 10
...Heyyy, I like the man, how ever it works out, but it's clear in some peopke's minds he can do no right. He and his people who you say can't run a business have kept the country out of a depression and the economy was slowly coming back but the hot air of complaining keeps on coming. Enjoy and certainly we can agree to disagree, but the writing is or was already on the wall for most of those who talk the same old game. Take it easy. Oh yes, he already did something great, but you keep looking. "o) I am sure you'll be hard pressed to find it.
• United States
9 Jun 10
artistry you are so right... I am very hard pressed to find anything great that Obummer has done in his presidency.
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• United States
8 Jun 10
I agree Presidents dont usually curse. But in this case I will give Obama a pass. This thing is STILL leaking. They have not stoppped it. Just slowed it down. BP has tried to cover up and lie about how much oil has been spilled and other things about this whole situtation.BP has tried to lie to the American people AND to our government. Obama is probly fustrated. Heck I know the rest of the country is really fustrated too. then add to that...a lot of politicans on BOTH SIDES are in in bed with big oil..so Obama is probly dealing with some resistance from them to reallly do anything to BP. Obama is the president...but he is Human too. Why is it Biden says the f word...everyone just laughs...myself included. Obama says the a word..people get bent all out of shape.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I did not give Biden a pass on the F word, I thought that was inexcusable and showed what a clueless, ill-bred idiot he was. And he said it in front of the child that was at the signing! It was inexcusable. I'm criticizing Mr. Obama because he didn't seem to be saying it out of a sense of outrage but was reacting to recent criticism that he fails to show any emotion, whatever the circumstances. I don't mind him not showing his feelings, I don't think we should have a weepy Willy in the WH nor do I want a cheerleader. I just want someone honest. If he is emotionless and analytical, fine. Just don't pretend to be so by using vulgar language. I will admit that he can't seem to please anyone lately. And I think if he'd stop the blame game and accept some responsibility for things it would help--but this leak was not his fault other than he gave BP a pass on safety inspections twice. I'd cite the articles that I read 2 weeks ago but they seem to have disappeared, which is not unusual for stuff like that during the past year or so.
• United States
8 Jun 10
Oh this is definately a nightmare for Obama. And a lot of others including BP. There is PLENTY of blame to go around on what and who caused it. But I think most of the fustratio right now is over NOT being able to stop it. Obama can't really do much about stoppping the leak and BP does not seem to be able to stop it...so the situation just keep getting worse and worse.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
lilwonders, Whiteheather pointed out in a few discussions that there is a United Arab Emirate team that offered to come and help 2 weeks ago with expertise, experience and equipment. Their offer has received no reply even though their passports are in order, equipment is ready to ship and they are waiting for our permission. Someone is choosing to stand by and look helpless.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I agree it is Obama "acting" passionate. This does not impress me a bit. How about lets stop the blame game and come up with a solution. Call off the lawyers and call in the engineers.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Jun 10
omg I didnt know this. I will start ooking for the info. The more people who know, the more pressure we can out on Washington. At this point it is time to swallow your pride and do whats right!
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• United States
8 Jun 10
laglen here is the is what dragon 54u is referring to: This is a disgrace especially when I read the following article DATED MAY 29,2010 ABU DHABI // A UAE team of oil spill experts with $1 million worth of equipment is on standby, ready to head to the US to assist in the clean up of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. “Everyone and everything is ready. We are just waiting for that one phone call,” said Craig Buckingham, the leader of the Crisis Management Team overseen by the Supreme Petroleum Council and the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (Adnoc). Speaking yesterday at the Crisis Management Center in Abu Dhabi, Mr Buckingham broke down the team’s track record, which included successful oil spill clean up operations in Lebanon and Egypt, and the equipment and expertise that will be heading to the US. “A team of 30 people, six Emiratis and the rest from Egypt, Sudan, Algeria and the Philippines, all fully trained in oil spill response, have cancelled all their plans and leave in preparation for the trip to Louisiana,” he said. Every member of the team has on-site expertise, besides their own specialisations in marine engineering, chemistry, environmental studies and IT. “This will be a great chance for us, the UAE, to show how we can help in international disasters and that we have what it takes,” said Ayedh al Masaabi, 28, an Emirati marine engineer. If the call comes, he said, “I would be heading to the waters itself as well as overseeing the co-ordination of our team with the rest of the teams there ... We are ready to get our hands dirty in the effort to save the environment and the livelihood of the people affected by the oil spill.” Besides its skilled manpower, the UAE is offering the latest technology to tackle oil spills of this scale. Four skimmers, recovery units that suck out the oil, 2,000 metres of onshore boom and 400 metres of offshore boom, as well as two helicopter spray pots to disperse chemicals, are waiting to be mobilised. “We have been in direct touch with the US authorities, and have presented all our documents and passports to the US embassy. Now we are just hoping we will get the chance to learn and help in the clean up in one of history’s worst oil spills,” said Mr Buckingham THAT IS 8 DAYS AGO!! http://www.thenational.ae. 01 JUNE 2010: This is from Coast Guard official Thad Allen, who is in charge of the government’s efforts, told reporters that skimmers to help siphon the oil off the surface of the water are most needed now. “We are looking at offers of foreign assistance, we are actually reaching out to foreign governments,” Allen said. “Some of the equipment that is most valuable to us right now is skimming equipment. There are different types of skimmers. Some of the inventories are present in other countries,” he said. http://coastalcare.org/20. IMO our government need to gets their arses in gear and get something done... asking for help by then not bother to take it when it is offered.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
Whiteheather posted a couple times about UAE (United Arab Emirates) team that has been ready to come here after making their offer of help 2 weeks ago. These people are experts and have the knowledge and equipment to help us clean it up quickly. So far, they've had no reply or invitation from our government. So the blame game can still be played. This administration refuses to take responsibility for anything unless it's something positive.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 Jun 10
I'm gonna give him a green light on this one. I think you all know me well enough, I'm not one for big government at ALL. But there are places where an angry government is not only appropriate, but necessary, and I think this is one of those situations. I actually want to see him putting his foot up a few more a$$es in fact, especially up those belonging to anyone who is NOT giving the states on the gulf coast what they need, whether it be other federal agencies or otherwise. Up those belonging to BP supervisors who have boats and operators available to them, chomping at the bit to get out and do something yet have them sitting idle. If he should turn on his tv, and see a bunch standing around on the beach smoking, texting and goofing off while booms are all out of sort or broken away from their anchors, I want him on a plane to the gulf and driving his proverbial foot up the a$$ of their supervisor and asking "why the hell are they just standing there? get them DOING something, NOW"... There is too much inaction and incompetent action going on down there and right now, we not only need a leader, we need an a$$kicker in chief. Swear all you want Obama, just follow it up with some foot insertion.
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• United States
8 Jun 10
dragon54u I posted that information again with the pertinent links as a comment to response # 3. He is another interesting article where help is refused: MYRTLE GROVE, Louisiana // Ever since a BP-contracted oil rig blew up in the Gulf of Mexico six weeks ago, Kenneth Chauvin has driven hundreds of miles around the ports and hamlets of the Louisiana coast looking for clean-up work. Far from Washington, where the main talking point on Tuesday was the opening of a criminal investigation into BP, Mr Chauvin was yet again on his quest for employment. He had already completed a four-hour class offered by BP and was issued a yellow card to prove he was certified to work in clean-up operations. But he had yet to receive a call from BP. “I filled out all the application forms and they said they would call, but they haven’t,” said Mr Chauvin, 51, who had his own contracting business but found little work in the home construction industry in recent months. “BP says it’s only giving the work to local people. Well, we’re from New Orleans and we’ve seen them shipping people in from northern Louisiana to do this work,” he said. “We leave the house at 6am every day to drive around but so far, we’ve gotten nothing,” said Mike Raybourn, 45, who is Mr Chauvin’s colleague. As these men were speaking, they were looking at workers setting booms on the dockside for loading on to boats at Myrtle Grove, a small marina in the Mississippi River delta, south of New Orleans. It was only because they had yet to find employment with BP that they felt comfortable speaking with a reporter. BP workers at Myrtle Grove declined to be interviewed, following BP’s strict policy of no interaction with the media that is enforced across the oil spill crisis zone in southern Louisiana. http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100603/FOREIGN/706029899/1014
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
This whole thing is SO screwed up! Everyone has their own interest at heart and the hell with the ocean and wetlands and the people who are losing their livelihood!
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I would tend to agree, given what everyone else has said (I may have blown this language thing out of proportion) but look up UAE team (United Arab Emirates) and you'll find they've been waiting 2 weeks for permission to bring in experts and equipment to clean this mess up and stop the leak. And that's why I doubted Mr. Obama's sincerity and objected to the language that was probably an act knowing the help that he has not taken advantage of. If I'm wrong on the UAE team or there is false reporting, I'll be glad to eat crow.
@Hatley (163772)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Jun 10
hi dragon54u oh dear and now we agree to disagree as I feel he is just making the dumb changes to appeal to more of the shirtcollar and rednecks and really he should have just been himself. the job of president is one I would not want at all. He cannot please all the people all the time, nor maybe even half the people but I do think his heart is in the right place,but he may be listening to white house advisers who tell him to do this and that and the other thing. if they would leave him alone when he was campaigning for the Presidency he should himself ,this is only my opinion now,to be very intelligent and well read. I agree vulgarity is not a bit appealing to me either but I think in this case he might have been advised by well meaning but sort of dumb advisers to come down to redneck level. they made a tremendous error there as most Americans are not illiterate stupid rednecks at all.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
9 Jun 10
Mr. Obama has surrounded himself with people who are inept and inexperienced, Hatley. His Chicago friends make up his closest advisors, none of whom has any practical adult life experience and when he listens to them--as in this case--he looks like a fool. I don't know what he is really like; his public face is only what his advisors tell him to present but I would prefer and probably like much better the way he really is. This little stunt came off as artificial and demeaning and insulted the office he holds. His advisors think we are stupid--I don't know if he does or not, we never get to see the real Obama. We are not that stupid. Naive, yes, for after all, people voted him in. But not stupid enough for us all to fall for such a cheap publicity stunt.
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
8 Jun 10
I think he replied with this remark because Matt Lauer said it first. "Why aren't you kicking butt and getting compassionate." I don't think his remark was embarrassing in the least since people are coming down on him for something he has not a bit of REAL control over. BP is the responsible party who did not do their the job right from day one. I'm not at all for vulgarity, however, what he has said could have been so much worse. There have been other presidents who have said alot worse, I believe.
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@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I think the president--and all people in the public eye--should set an example that they would want their children to follow. It just isn't presidential and it was phony because he's been goaded to show some sort of emotional reaction. My gripe isn't so much with the word but the motivation behind it. If he truly meant it I might be more forgiving.
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
8 Jun 10
I'm sure it would have been. Mr. Obama needs to stop letting people goad him into action and start thinking for himself.
@lelin1123 (15594)
• Puerto Rico
8 Jun 10
If Matt Lauer had not used the statement the President's reply would have been different.
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