Do You Know Your Credit Score?

United States
July 23, 2010 1:34pm CST
Do you know that each time someone checks your credit, your score goes down? That means if you go to a department store and when you go to the check out desk, if the clerk asks you to sign up for a credit card and get 10% off, your credit score will be checked. One woman decided to get all those ten percents off with her Christmas shopping because she knew she could pay the bills immediately. She was surprised that after signing up for eight cards, the last store turned her down, but she didn't ask why. She visited her mother later and told her of the great coup she had pulled off, only to be told, "You lowered your credit score every time you signed up for a card." At the last store, her credit showed many requests made the same day, which also showed her as a risk. Since she and her husband had just begun looking for a new house, that was the last thing they needed. Even paying the cards immediatly did not repair the damage, because they showed an inordinate number of credit cards against what they made each year and their score remained lower than it had previously been. So, they cancelled the cards. That didn't solve the problem either because a large number of credit cards cancelled at one time brings up other questions. If you are buying a car, a house, or anything and give multiple people access to your credit information, you risk lowering your credit, so the best bet is to be totally serious about one item at one place before offering your information to anyone. How often do you sign up to get that extra 10% off?
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
24 Jul 10
That's surprising. Because if you do any transactions with Banks such as loans etc, they will definitely check your score, so it is not clear why the rating should go down. Here in India the Credit ratings have been in place only for a short period of time and this rule is not there. In fact, Individuals can also ask for their own Credit Score to verify and if there are discrepancies can ask for corrections. Cheers! Ram
• United States
24 Jul 10
Here in the US, records are kept of every request for your credit record. If a person is going wild getting new cards, it can be a sign of a scam artist. For instance, at one time lenders were offering cards at a beginning rate of 0% or some other super low rate and after a specified amount of time the card went to the normal interest rate. People would sign up for a card, spend to the limit, get another card to pay off the first, get a third to pay off the second and keep doing that until the card companies caught on and refused to offer further credit. These people were never paying interest or finance charges, which is what it takes for the credit card companies to survive. They are betting you cannot pay all at one time, or that you will pay the minimum, which stretches your payments out to several years instead of a couple of months. Or, people would get the cards, write a check for the full amount, put the money in a savings or money market account, make interest on it and just before it converted to the normal interest rate, they paid it off and kept the interest they accummulated. Credit card companies don't like it when we make money on their cards and they make nothing. We, too, can get discrepancies corrected and that is as it should be, but the rules literally fill a book on the number of ways a credit card can destroy rather than make your fortune. Each credit check is a big red mark against you. With the car I had to buy, my rating took a hit because of the loan, but it also lost a few points because they checked my credit. One purchase knocked 14 points off my credit. However, I had a discrepancy that needed correcting. When that was done, my credit went up 44 points. It is always a good idea to check your credit at least once a month to insure nothing is impacting it without your knowledge.
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@ram_cv (16513)
• India
24 Jul 10
Hmm.. but the whole idea of credit rating is to allow for people to check it before giving out loans or stuff on credit, so it really does not make sense why rating should be reduced if somebody checks it :) Cheers! Ram
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
23 Jul 10
It amazes me what people will do to save money. Thinking about it, how much money do you need to spend to really make the 10% pay off? Is saving ten cents on the dollar worth the lower credit scores, the increased probability of identity theft (during the holiday season a LOT of temporary employees are hired and while their applications are checked do they take the time to really check the backgrounds?) and the possibility of people finding out your address and breaking into your home. I simplified my life a lot by not having credit cards. I experienced identity theft a few years ago and if it weren't for the eagle eyes and the smart employees of the company that carried my card, I could have been ruined. As soon as that happened I decided to simplify my life a LOT by not having credit cards. If I need to pay for something online, I buy a temporary credit card for close to the amount that I am paying for the item and that way I am secure in the knowledge that if someone does try to steal my identity they won't get much. As for store credit cards, I don't bother. I find better deals without the extra 10% off...after all when you think about it you're only saving such a small amount. If it was a gift for a million dollars then it might be wroth it. I didn't know about lowering my credit score that way or having multiple people accessing my credit information lowering my credit...but of course I own my home, am not even considering moving and have a car that I paid cash for... Your information hopefully will open many eyes to the importance of being wise and not falling for the "Save if you open a credit card with us" offer.
• United States
23 Jul 10
Good move on your part, Loverbear. I, too, got rid of all credit cards because it seemed it we got one 'for emergencies' it wasn't that hard to find an emergency. Another thing not taken into account is that if you do not pay off those cards asap, the 10% you save can become the massive interest rate and finance charge you spend. Interest rates on too many cards are 19% and above and even if you get a smaller one, make one mistake, be one day late by THEIR calendar, not yours, they can jack you up to 29% in some instances. Check out spending 29% interest on 500 dollars, using the minimum payment and see how long it takes to pay it off AND how much extra you pay. It's astounding. You discover credit cards are much more profitable than mortgages on houses.
• United States
23 Jul 10
Loverbear, error in above message. The new credit card bill does make the credit card companies give 45 days notice before raising rates.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
23 Jul 10
I hardly ever sign up for extra 10 percent off. However, after reading this I just wish to God they would just do away with credit cards all together. People should really swear against them and not have any but one for emergencies only. It just screws everyones credit completely. I'm selling my home next month and paying everyone off and I don't want to know about a credit card again. If you don't have the cash wait till you do then buy what you want. Credit Cards are as bad as a loan sharking in my opinion. They get you each and every way they can. The more people who do away with them the less money the credit cards companies will be making. Then they will have to change the rules.
• United States
23 Jul 10
They HAVE changed their rules and some of them are excellent. They have to show the user what they will actually be paying and how long it will take to pay it off if they use the minimum payoff. For instance, if you had a loan for $1020 and made the minimum payment for 5 years, it would cost you $1,204. If you pay it off at $33 per month for three years, you save a whole dollar. They also put a Late Payment Warning. In one case I saw, it read "If we do not receive your minimum payment by the date listed above, you may have to pay a late fee up to $50.00. The actual amount of the late fee may be less." I wouldn't count on it being less if they are allowed to go as high as $50, the credit card company WILL go for that amount. They cannot raise your rate without 45 days notice now. At that point, if you don't want the increase, you can pay in full and cancel your card. Previously, if you defaulted on your Visa, Master Card could raise your interest rate. That is being stopped. So, many good things are happening, but the interest rate is still allowed to go to what almost amounts to criminal rates.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
23 Jul 10
That is exactly my point the interest rates will kill you. So I rather use cash then a credit card. If I have to use a credit card then I have the money ready to pay it in one shot.
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
24 Jul 10
I only done it twice on the past year. Once with Old Navy, another time with Khole's. I didn't know that my credit score will be lower if someone check on my credit. I thought that if you apply so many credit cards, and you had used up to more than 30% of your available fund, they will lower your score. That is something new I learn. Thanks!
• United States
24 Jul 10
Check Bamafan's answer for just how many ways your credit is impacted. The stores get a little something if they talk you into using their credit cards. It is never your best interest they have in mind, but no one will ever tell you how it impacts your credit score. If you want to catch a mouse, you make the bait smell like peanut butter; you don't tell him the trap the peanut butter is attached to will break his neck. So it is with creditors and the prevalent credit card.
@Steinway (307)
• United States
24 Jul 10
Yes, unfortuntately I know my credit score. I wish it was higher, but like all people I got way over my head with using those stupid cards. Which now, it seems like it is taking me forever to pay off. As the old saying goes, you live and learn.
• United States
24 Jul 10
To get rid of those cards, choose the highest one and pay as much as possible on it, even if it means paying minimum on the others. When that one is paid off, pick the next highest, and keep going until they are all gone. Then cut them up or play shredder wars with them! Good luck.
@Memnon (2170)
24 Jul 10
Bad news really. I don't sign up for store cards (except the odd pre pay saver type ones). The same is also true of every time you open a bank account, or a bank enquires about your credit rating.
• United States
24 Jul 10
There is no safe haven when someone checks your credit score. We have to be vigilant at all times. And, don't forget, there are the not so nice folks out there seeking to grab your credit info for their own purposes. Check your credit at least once a month.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
6 Jul 11
It is true that when you apply to a lot of different places, etc. and need Credit your Credit score is lowered even if you are never late, etc. Which in turn can hurt your Credit for when you really need a major purchase as well. What is maddening though sometimes is when you really have an Emergency especially if it is Medical and need to have places hold off on your payments for a month or two, and they need to run your Credit to be able to do so? I often wonder if this is really legal.