Feminism?!

susan b anthony - Susan b anthony, women's activist and feminist of early america
United States
July 25, 2010 5:09pm CST
Feminism, your thoughts and opinions. I believe that on a political basis the idea of feminism is agreeable. The idea of women running the future opposed to old, stuffy men, wearing white powdered wigs. But, not only is it working its way around a courtroom, but also into your dinner date. What do you think of women playing the role of men in modern day relationships. I think its killing the good old fashion romance, the way things should really be. I mean come on, I'm a girl and no way would i split the tab on a first date. Tell me what YOU think.
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@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
26 Jul 10
"I think its killing the good old fashion romance, the way things should really be. I mean come on, I'm a girl and no way would i split the tab on a first date." As to who pays the tab for any date, I personally beleive it should be the person who asks the other person out on the date; and, since they are the one doing the asking, they get to choose what the date is - romantic restaurant, picnic lunch, home cooked meal, etc. Splitting the tab, belongs on dates with multiple people; not, a couple. If you expect to split the tab on the first date whoever is doing the asking is being cheap! "killing the good old fashion romance" - it is actually making it more romantic because one person is not responsible for everything! Women can and do ask men out. You know how women like to get flowers, etc. Well, how about having a balloon bouquet, cupcakes, or an edible arrangement delivered to the guy's office! With both people working at making a relationship "romantic" instead of leaving it all up to the man; how can it not be more romantic!
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• United States
7 Aug 10
i guess, i never really thought about it that way. But hey, every argument has 2 sides
@Angelwriter (1954)
• United States
26 Jul 10
First, I don't believe feminism means "playing the role of men" in any situation. I'm a woman, I'm happy being a woman, I don't want to be a man. I just want the same respect and opportunities according to my skills and abilities that any man has. As far as romance, there are WAYtoo many people in this world with WAY too many ways of interacting that's right for them for anyone to be able to say there's a way things should be. If two people are happy with splitting the check, who is anyone to say they're doing it wrong? Or that they aren't romantic? But, I have no problem with a man paying for a date if he wants to. And I don't think I have to turn in my feminism card or feel that it makes me less equal to a man. Anymore than a man suddenly becomes less equal if I offer to pay for a date and he accepts. I don't expect a man to pay, but I'm fine if he chooses to. I also have no desire to run the world. I want the best people to do that. Whether it's men or women. Just want women in the running. I also find it very interesting (to use a neutral term) that equality for women has rules, but equality for men is simply accepted no matter what. People may make judgments on whether someone is a "real" man, whether they're behaving correctly, but I seriously doubt anyone would say that a man can't do something and still be equal. If women went around paying for every date, and holding every door open for a man, people would say all sorts of things about how it violates "the one way things should be". But, I would fall down in utter shock if anyone so much as hinted that the men lost their right to equality. Until equality isn't something that women have to earn, but is simply a birthright, as it is with men* then things aren't acceptable. I'm not saying people can't be criticized, but never never never should someone be told that they lose the right to equality because they fail some standard. *Of course, this is talking about places where men are seen as equal just for existing. I don't claim to know precisely the status of men and women everywhere. But, if there are men who don't have equality as a birthright, they should have it. And so should women.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
Okay good point,but don't you think there is a reason that men have equality as a birthright and women don't?
• United States
25 Jul 10
Personally, I love being a girl and I love living in a country where I have the right to vote, the right to get whatever job I want, and basically the right to be heard. But I think the feminist movement killed chivalry and turned men into lazy slobs. I love the "old fashioned" idea of men opening doors for women and getting their chairs. I can get both myself, but come on! Little things like that make a girl feel special. I also like the guy doing the asking out, paying for dates, and (Oh God forbid! ) being head of house and leading the relationship. Loads of feminist want to rebel against the idea of being a stay at home mom. It seems to me that they want to shove men into a dark hole somewhere and run everything themselves. Not me. Barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen? That's my dream right there... don't bash it! I like where the feminist movement first started. I don't like where it's gone since.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
Not all feminists feel like this. Maybe the most vocal and the ones who get the most attention. I have no desire to be barefoot and pregnant, but as a feminist I support your right to choose that, if it makes you happy. Because one of the tenants of feminism in my thinking is choice for women. Whether that choice is being a driven career woman or a stay at home mom or something in between.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
I agree, when the feminist movement first started, it wasn't intended to turn out the way that it has. I also feel that yeah, feminism did kill chivalry as well. In my opinion being a girl is great but, every girl wants to feel like a princess, no matter who you are, and princesses don't open their own doors, that's what prince charming is there for.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
Dude i so agree, you don't really see men putting their jacket over a puddle for you anymore do you? I mean just the other day at the mall, my sisters boyfriend let a door slam right in our faces after opening it up for himself. Men these days, right? ;)lol
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@jennyze (7029)
• Indonesia
26 Jul 10
Oh, definitely I don't want to pay for my foods on any dates. I prefer the old style romance. There are something that I want to be equal as a man though, such as: going to work, speak our minds, to have a say in the household matters etc.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
True , true I do prefer old style romance myself :3 But yea, same here. Some people say that we can't just have the best of both worlds, but why not?
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@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
26 Jul 10
Correct never split the tab, come on men eat more than women. Just pay for what you eat. Women needs to be treated like women. For me its funny that some women want to be treated "equally" but was offended when not offered a seat or was not helped with carrying the luggage.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
Well, i wouldn't exactly be offended if i had to carry my own luggage. But hey, i wouldn't mind if someone offered to either. That just means the mans a gentlemen. The age old story of how women are supposed to be weaker then men, and if a lady carried her own bag back then she'd probably pass out, between the tight corset dress and heavy wooden suit case or something. :3
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@rjkmrr (172)
• India
26 Jul 10
Right, you are encouraging to all the women. I follow up with you and I think in the same way that woman head should be always up, and no discrimination between women and men.
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26 Jul 10
It is no good asking me I am a trained male maid and heavily into dominant women who take charge. That does not mean that I would not pay the tab and anything else if I am ordered too
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@Suke002 (311)
• United States
25 Jul 10
I think that last sentence was just you being cheap, but I don't blame you, I don't like to pay period but at the same time I offer half to the relationship and don't expect to be showered with gifts because I wouldn't like to have someone around me just to spend my hard earned money. On the feminism thing, if we want equality to men then you got to deal with the good and bad. We want to have the same opportunites and that can mean very good positions for women but on the other hand we would have to deal with taking care of ourselves and not expecting some man to pay your way. You can't have the best of two worlds. You can't expect women presidents and then expect guys to pay for your dinner and be excluded from the draft. you want equality then you gotta deal with the good and bad and deal with it.
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• United States
26 Jul 10
I am pretty cheap , know that i think about it, but hey, everyone has their moments. :) But what about chivalry? Isn't feminism the very thing that killed that. So in a twisted way, feminism is really the enemy of women, because there is NO such thing as a lady who doesn't want a chivalrous man on her side. :3
• Vietnam
26 Jul 10
it's is good body