Is it bad to send your old parent to a home or facility for the aged?

@bingskee (5234)
Philippines
August 7, 2010 10:13am CST
In the Philippines, Filipinos are a tightly-knit family and they wanted to take care of their old ones instead of sending them to a facility or home for the aged. People who do that will surely be ridiculed. Different people, different strokes. We should not take it against other people when they decide to bring their old to homes for the aged. Not all people live in the same situation. People have needs and obligations and taking care of the old when you do not have anyone by your side, or everybody is busy working, who would question their decision of sending the old to facilities for the old?
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@sender621 (14894)
• United States
7 Aug 10
Children hate to think of the [possibility of sending their parents to a home for the aged. Parents also hate the thought of ever having to live there. Sometimes you just have to weigh out the options before you. Parents have to hope as they get older that their children will helpt to support and care for them. Many of the homes for the aged will do just that. There are a few exceptions out there but we have to do what we think is best when our parents can no longer care for themselves.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
there is no place like home. especially when all the fond memories and your loved ones are there. i myself would not want to live in a home for the aged. but i could understand why people do that if the reason is valid.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
14 Aug 10
so true, sender621.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
8 Aug 10
Children may not want to send their parents away. sometimes circumstances change everything.
• China
7 Aug 10
I also have thought about this problem a few days ago! My grandma was sick at home,alone.But my parents are busy working and have no time to take care of my grandma.I also have to stay at school and I can't do anything to help my grandmother!My father said,if my grandma get worse,I will send her to old people'home,I think it is very unfilial.Fortunately,my grandma was getting better.I can't image the sence my parents send my grandma to the old people's home!If I am able to earn money and I will live with my grandma and take care of her.But now I am only a student.
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@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
does your parents have enough money to hire a nurse or a help to take care of grandma? you can suggest it to them, pandawang.
• China
9 Aug 10
Maybe it's a good choice.Thanks for your advice,bingskee!
@grenz07 (92)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
I am also from the Philippines and I am definitely against those people who send their old parents to a home for the aged. On my own opinion, We should take care of them the way they take care of us. Even if we are all busy working we should give them their needs and make an effort to give them quality time. For we will not have the life that we have right now if not because of them. And as the bible says "Do unto others what you want them to do unto you". So if you want your children to do the same thing to you then go.
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@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
i respect that grenz707. but i have to tell you about someone who is living alone with her aged mother. they are far from their relatives. they only have each other. the nature of her job requires her to go to places. it was a dilemma for her. and i think when she decided bringing her old mother to a house, then it is understandable. she makes it a point to visit as often. i dont think we have to be angry with her for that. it all depends on the situation at hand, i believe.
• Malaysia
7 Aug 10
The jury is out on this one. Not every one wants to stay with their children especially if they are married with their own families. We all know that it is not easy for mother-in-laws to get along with daughter-in-laws. So, many parents these days opt for homes which they called senior citizen homes. Here ,they are cared for by professionals and can find new friends. Most of these people can pay for their own upkeep if they had been successful career men or women with a nest egg.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
exactly, gracefuldove. even the seniors think of living away from other people to have a 'peaceful' life. but sadly, only those who can afford can opt to do that.
• India
7 Aug 10
It is really bad. Aging is a natural process from which no one can escape. After sacrificing all the life period for children, to be in an old age home is something beyond my thoughts. I thing it is the time for them to be looked after by their children. As an Indian i strongly believe in the ethics my predecessors handed over to the new generation. But unfortunately reality is negative. No body can question such acts. But you will have to answer to the question from your inner. That is all. Of course you will have to apologize.
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@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
well, sounds like this matter is cultural. i do respect that. but people who choose to send their old ones to facilities like that i mentioned also has to be respected especially when there is no way to live with life but to do that. but if it is borne of selfishness, then curse be to that person.
@PDBME2 (1014)
• United States
7 Aug 10
I would think that this is the last thing I would want to do to my parents but if it came to their safety I would reconsider. My friend has a son who is mentally retarded and her mom has Dementia. Most of her married life her mom has lived with her but a year or so ago she put her in a home. Her son needs constant monitoring, as well as her mom. Both need to be watched over if they decide to leave the house. I think she broke her leg one time which made it especially hard to handle everything. She felt bad in putting her mom in a facility to avoid anyone getting hurt. Her husband works all day long so she has little ones as well. I really understood why she did it because you have to think of their safety. Like you said if you have back up help, or your children are bigger where they can help or take care of themselves it might take some of the burden off. I know here where I live there are stories of seniors taking off into the desert. It would be nice to get the help by the family or even the community but sometimes it just doesn't happen. My kids and I have visited convalescent homes and it's sad to see those seniors there that have no visits on the weekends. The forgotten crowd yet you see some that look forward to the visits from family. They understand.
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@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
that is truly understandable to send her mother to a home. i dont think that it would be shallow to think otherwise. as i said, it all depends on a situation. as long as the children or the relatives visit the mother, she will not feel bad. and i hope if the mind of the old ones are still ok, it would be explained to them. i know that not all of those old people living in homes for the aged are receiving visits. and it is truly sad. sometimes it makes me sad that something like that will happen to me.
@PDBME2 (1014)
• United States
8 Aug 10
Maybe God will answer all of us before decisions have to be made. I feel the same way, hoping that dementia might get the best of me for me not to remember.
@suryachalla (1369)
• India
7 Aug 10
My Mother - This is a picture of my aged mother, taken in the US two years ago.
I agree with "different people, different strokes". For many years, I didn't earn sufficiently, though I had all the capabilities/assets of life (other than financial). I couldn't look after my mother properly. When my eldest brother took her into his home in 2002, every day turned into living, burning hell for my mother because of my high-strung sister-in-law. After living like this for a year, my second brother in the US got wind of my mother's situation and took her away to the US. She stayed in the US between 2002 and 2009, when he brought her back to India, and set her up to live close to my youngest sister's home at a coastal town in my state. So now, my youngest sister is my mother's caretaker. I am still to see her! I am only now picking myself up life as a freelance writer and hope to start earning sufficiently in a few more months, at least enough for a decent living (without any frills) with basic choices. Given alongside is a picture of my mother.
• India
8 Aug 10
The point is that one should take natural "responsibility" for old age, early in one's life. If one doesn't understand that, or if one has not been taught about in moral classes in school, it will be very difficult for one to feel "responsible" for looking after "parents" or "grandparents" when one is grownup, married and tied up by one's own life-problems. That is why, when we are parents, we should not simply pamper our children but see to it that they learn to differentiate between what is the right way and the wrong way to look at life. Actually, in my case, I still want to look after my mom (though I am over 50), but I am absolutely broke, having led a dissolute life which I can't discuss now. And when I am really into my niche of article writing, all the "red" buttons are being pushed at home and making life miserable to the extent of feeling its not worth-living, instead of allowing me breathing space to shine and earn in this career. I could earn 5 figure income within the next 3 months if I were to have support at the basic, minimum level at home, which I don't. As a result, I am not able to earn enough for myself, my stupid family and to part provide for my mother.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
hello, suryachalla. sorry for a very, very late response. 'natural responsibility' is not understood by many, or is a concept that many people would not want to understand. personally, it is not something that has to be taught. it is innate in every person to know what is right from wrong. however, as you said, there are a lot of factors in life that makes many of us ignore the concept of moral responsibility. hope everything is okay with you now.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
7 Aug 10
i could not imagine the bad experience your mother had. my mother had also experienced that with my brother-in-laws. and all because they were thought of as added burden. i think the incapability to support is one major factor.
• Thailand
8 Aug 10
I dont think its right to send parents to an maternity home. When we were younger most of or probably all of us were taken care of by our parents. They didnt send us to a place where people would watch us until they had time off from their jobs. They took care of us, taught us how to live and sent us to school. Even if we cant stay at home and take care of them we could at least get them a new house or something of appreciation and also get them a maid to take care of them. This is much better than sending them to live in an old peoples home where nothing exciting really happens. besides it could also give them more reasons to die faster because i am sure there are a lot of depressed and sick people in maternity homes.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
9 Aug 10
is that what you call them - maternity homes? i think it would not require a maid but a nurse or a caregiver to take care of the old, faderpeter.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
8 Sep 10
i perfectly understand it. but i think we should also give some others understanding why they did that. not all situations are the same.
@annavi23 (6522)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
hello bing,we filipinos are very well loved by our family.but i can say,not all families are like this.it really depends on our own characteristics and attitudes towards relating to others and taking care of others.some people might be busy in their lives that they can't have time to take care of their own parents who can't take care of themselves. i guess it's every children's rights to take care of their parents when they get old,because it's like our obligation and payment for those times they had took care of us when we are still babies,right?
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
9 Aug 10
hello, annavi, as i mentioned we are a tightly-knit lot that is why we truly care and love. i don't think it is a right but a duty or maybe an obligation. we should all be considerate.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
15 Aug 10
i would like to believe, annavi23, that my children will take care of me when i grow old. in whatever manner it would be done, i will and can understand. what i am trying to point out is your statement "i guess it's every children's rights to take care of their parents'. a right is different from a duty or an obligation.
@annavi23 (6522)
• Philippines
12 Aug 10
of course,just think of yourself when you get old,would you want your children to send you in home for the aged? i guess that's not a good idea,cause they are your parents and they loved and cared for you til you got older,then it is our own rights and obligations to take care of them in this stages.it's a warm feeling of comfort when you are loved til you got old and die with those people you loved as well.
@dian21 (606)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
It is a sad idea to put an elderly to a facility or home for the aged. After all the hardships of our parents, we should really try to be responsible in whatever they need now as they are old already. But as what you have said, it really depends on the situation. The immediate family should decide whether to put the elderly to the home for the aged. They should do what would be best for their family and for the elderly as well. Especially nowadays, people should be open-minded also about this idea. Because in this very busy environment and limited resources, sometimes children cannot give what their parents need, like time and attention and the caring, because they too have their own life and they have to worl also. So personally, I am open for this idea, if ever that me and my other siblings cannot take care of my parents anymore. But of course, we will never forget to visit them in that facitlity always and provide also their needs. Sometimes, it would be better for the old ones to have people around them always like their same age. They can mingle to different people there than just stay at home and most of the time being alone.. So it really depends on the situation of the family and the needs of the old one.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
so this gives another situation.. if the aged do not have someone he knew around in the house except for the nurse or the caregiver, that would also make him depressed and sad. being with other people their age could make life exciting and bearable.
@dian21 (606)
• Philippines
9 Aug 10
yes. because I can see many old ones who are just alone in the house, who doesn't have a caregiver or helper with them. Their families are busy with their own lives that would just leave them alone. So for me, it is much better for them to be with people around them always whom they can talk to and share their experiences and interests as well. But the immediate family should visit their old one regularly or as often as possible.
• United States
8 Aug 10
When I was in my early teens and right out of medical school I worked in several nursing homes and it was so very sad, to see the mistreatment the elder received because of non caring over worked employees. The abuse on a daily basis gave me more incentive to take care of my patients and never wish anyone to ever be in a nursing home. The richest and poorest of nursing homes were all the same it was very sad and I worked my buns off taking extra care of the assigned patient as i figured God would have wanted it this way. Although many say that when they just can't give the care to their love ones they have to do this. I personally as long as God gives me life and strength can not personally imagine doing something like this.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
reading this, it made me want to change my conviction. i felt the misery of the elderly upon reading your comment.
• United States
8 Aug 10
Something many people do not realize that although is it so much work to take care of an elderly at home, it is quite expensive to put them in a home as well. Although that might be easier and less burden, there are many ways around this, that is if one truly cares. If the government is going to pay for the home they also will pay for a personal taker at a person's home along with a monthly salary which can assist in some ways and the loved one will not be abuse as we can monitor and watch the care takers. It is the least we can do, after all when we were children we were difficult, therefore it is the least we can do to take care of our loved ones. I sure hope I do not have this in the future, but then I never had a mother nor a father so I won't have to care for any of them. Now who knows about my live in boyfriend if his mom will need the help.
• United States
8 Aug 10
This is a good question. I think about this myself sometimes. One side of me says it is bad and the other says no. The reason I say it is bad because even though our parents get sick where they can't do anything for themselves we should not give up on them. If we have to feed them,change their diaper, clothe them give, them their medicine ect I look at it as that is the same thing they did for us when we were children when we couldnt do it for ourselves. I feel its returnin the favor. They put up with us so we should do the same. My other side say's no because it can cause stress. We cant be there for them 24/7 like a facility can monitering them if we have to be to work and the kids have to be to school. It is a really big responsibility. They can be provided a inhome nurse but everyone cannot afford that. Some parents can be difficult to because they dont want to listen lol! They dont want to take there medicine and depnding on what they have, such as my grandmother who had altimers (probably didnt spell that right) they tend to wonder. My grandmother would up and leave the house and none would know where she was. It's scary and it worries you. Which can alot more problems in your life, but it is a decision you would have to decide.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
hello, coryi. those are nice thoughts and i know, it is not an easy feat to take the responsibility of taking care of the old, given the fact that some of them will not be easy to deal with as aging can alter their personality. it really is a tough decision to make when one is faced with it. whatever one decides for the old, it should not be something like cutting the connection and the relations.
• United States
8 Aug 10
Even parents had to send us to daycare.And if it weren't for school what would they have done. It can be hard being there for someone 24/7. We would have no energy for ourself
@Raine38 (12257)
• United States
16 Jul 12
In my opinion, sending your old parent in a facility would be bad if you will only send them there and forget about them. They still are your parents and no matter your circumstances in life may be, you will always have a moral obligation to them. I have a friend who takes care of their grandma, but for her grandma to be able to interact and get together with people her own age (sort of like some socialization thing for grannies), they will let her have a short vacation in a home for the aged for a day or two, like the weekends. Then after their grandma's vacation, they pick her up once again to live with them.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
hi, raine. you are very right. one can choose to put the old to a facility for the aged but must not cut the ties. some children forget and it is sad and it is happening. it should be done in a way that would benefit everybody involved but the connection must remain intact especially that old people really want company.
@tinkti (15)
12 Aug 12
I'm from Indonesia. i think our culture is not really different about this problem. in my people(Balinese) we believe that we should take care of our parents no matter what happen. it is really forbidden to abandon them. we strongly believe with the karma that ruled most of our life and we believe the karma for abandoning our old is greater than anything.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
27 Aug 12
hi, tinkti! nice of you to participate in this discussion and it is interesting to know how it is in your country, especially about the karma thing.
• United States
8 Aug 10
I've not had to make that decision thankfully just because i've pretty shunned my family. well they shunned me. My grandmother was really bad sick and had to stay in the nursing hom part of the hospital over Christmas and new years. she had a couple of mini strokes and it was her decision. She had her three daughters there and my dad. She changed a lot of things in her will then even though she is still alive. I don't really talk to her any more. i stay away from her as much as I possibly can. I sometimes feel like my dad uses my daughter to see her because he stays with my grandmother alot and so if my dad gets kathryn I have to go there or what not.Anyways, my family kind of shunned me out after I got pregnant and I wasnt married and then I didn't when i found out. Anyways, I don't think that it's really any body else's decision but that person and there person's care takers. They are the ones doing this not every body else. Sometimes people just don't have the patients to deal with an elder in there family on a day in and day out basis. My dad asked me if I would stay with her 4-5 hours a day and I told him no. He only asked because I wasn't working but I have my 5 year old and i do a lot for my mom because I live with her. I'm not responsible for her and i wouldn't want her to be responsible for me. I've asked to borrow money from her and she won't let me. When they sold her farm they split the profits equally and me and my brother and sister grew up on that farm every summer helping them clean, and get it ready for renters. It hurt me that after all the time and effort of my choosing (being forced) to help and $200 was all that I got out of it when it came right down to it. So, I think I may understand more so than others because yes she is my grandmother but I would rather be some where else than be the one taking care of her. She degrades me every time I go there and is always on to me about something. So, I tend to get defensive when it comes to her. anyways, I still think that it's the caretakers choice. Alot of them have there own family and have there own lives and sometimes they would be better taken care for if it was done by some one else or some where else.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
13 Jul 12
all i can say is the reason probably why you are not willing to take care of your grandma is the relationship you have with her. it's almost like nothing is there between you two. perhaps it isn't your fault. the adults around you, i think, have responsibilities of doing something to build love and care between their parent and the grandchildren. if it is a rocky relations, it could be hard to give concern.
@shia88 (4571)
• Malaysia
8 Aug 10
Hi, For sure, I won't send my parents off to old folks home when they get old. As their daughter,I have the responsibility to takecare of my parents, Of course, after I got married, I will have my own family and it will be my brothers duties to takecare of them.Unless,I don't have any siblings, then I will consider to let them stay with me if the situation is permitted. It is bad to send our parents to old folks home,no matter,how busy is our life, we have to make an arrangement to takecare of them. Employed a nurse or maid to help us up,at least, we are still staying at the same house and still be able to takecare each other.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
9 Aug 10
i don't think it is right to say that it is 'bad' to send our parents to old folks home. i mean, for a very sane reason, we have to understand the people who decide to do it. provided that they still give time visiting. on the other hand, the idea of still staying in the same house with a nurse or a caregiver sounds nice. this would make the old comfortable.
@nancy0618 (477)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
it is not bad, but i am not doing it. everybody has its own reason why they are sending their parent to home for old age. but in my own opinion, i would rather take care of my parent until their last breath, as a daughter it is my responsiblity to return the favor for taking good care of me. well that is not the only reason, the main reason is that I LOVE THEM BOTH
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
8 Aug 10
that is nice to know, nancy.
@akn1961 (1034)
• India
8 Aug 10
yes it is bad ,if we follow this history will repeat ,and our children will send us to same place ,thx for sharing
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
i don't believe it's entirely bad. it depends on the situation.
@frogzy (84)
• India
2 Jul 12
I thing you can find the answer for this question in this easiest way: Ask the asker: "Why do you want to send old parent(s) to home/facility for aged?" His/her answer (or its meaning) would be: "I could not care them because of my daily workflow or business or something ..." the answer is: "They Produces You! If you could not care them, how can you expect that others do that job in a great way?" No one can care aged peoples better than their real children or relatives! Because "caring" is based on "passion", "love" and "relations". You can give a "person" (e.g: nurse) for care, but you never give a "heart" for accepting it! That heart built on DNAs always expect and love "your care"!
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
frogzy, indeed, no other love is better and preferred by our parents than our own.
@sbucu57 (55)
• Philippines
11 Jul 12
If there is no other family relative who is strong and able enough to serve as a caregiver for an aging parent, the I cannot see the wrong in sending one to a facility for the aged. Sometimes misplaced guilt can burden our lives on some tasks we can no longer do. In the Philippines, it is but natural for some families to choose on having their aged parents live with them in the same roof. But if in choosing so would mean a restless and a stressful life even affecting one's health, then it would be best to reflect what would be best for all the parties involved. It maybe hard at first, but if all the cards had been laid on the table, an honest understanding of each others' needs and the capacity to care will eventually be the result at the end of the day.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
16 Jul 12
nicely put, sbucu57! and if somebody will decide on doing it - sending his or her parent(s) to a facility for the aged - we must not judge. sometimes it is so easy for others to judge when they do not even know the real situation. thanks! hope to hear from you again!