Bus Drivers "can be" the WORST Killers...

Latest incident - in leyte with foreigners
Philippines
August 18, 2010 11:08am CST
Please don't take this negatively, because it happens. and the BUS isn't the Problem. It's the Drivers...well, at least some of them. because they're passengers pay the price for their mistakes. But you all know this is true. whether the Bus is Air-conditioned or not when it comes to rush ins or small vehicles right in front of them, they will try to out run it. unfortunately, in this latest incident, the driver avoid a "DOG" and crashed. it was bad people died in the crash but foreigners too inside that bus, it's another embarassment i believe. but it's clear that the driver for me was speeding. not to mention the quality of most busses aren't that good anymore. they say more training and strictness to the drivers,but nothign can stop it now if they feel asleep. What are you're views.
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29 responses
• United States
18 Aug 10
It is nobody's fault. It was an accident, right? Filipinos always find people to blame when something goes wrong, they like to point fingers.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
18 Aug 10
gorilla you are flaming and thats not so nice.
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• United States
19 Aug 10
I'm not insulting I'm just stating facts, I'm a Filipino too. I'm simply just telling them what they can't see.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
But they are accidents which are unavoidable if the drivers were just careful. We are talking about lives lost here.
@rhodzptc (1317)
• Philippines
18 Aug 10
My father in law is a former bus conductor he always told us that whenever a bus have been accident the driver will always take the blame but we didn't know how heavy is his responsibilities. He always told us that this bus drivers are well trained and being a bus driver it was always been a burden for them so they need to triple their awareness in order to avoid accidents but they are always the one who is being blame whenever there is an accident.
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• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello rhodz, Well, the driver is always and will always be accountable since he is sole responsible for the safety of the passengers, and not to mention too many passengers (including standing ones) on board the BUS. who else are they going to blame for this accidents. but what can the drivers do if they are blamed, they're the ones that are driving. despite of the training, bad things happen, and am sorry if they are blame, it's never easy. but they "chose" that responsibility, so should be ready if such trouble happens.
• Philippines
18 Aug 10
Maybe another reason why bus drivers often fly and not rather than drive is because they are not paid salaries but earn only on commission basis. They have to speed on the road so that they will be able to get more passengers and get to their destinations quicker. More passenger...more earnings. Other reasons that cause road accidents are not just the bus drivers but also poor road conditions and lack of proper maintenance of vehicles.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
yeah you are right. they want to be always to be first so they rush to go to the terminal to get the passengers.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello blungel, that is very true, you hit the jackpot i think. i'v heard that what they earn, they only got it by 20 to 30% commission, so no wonder the bus conductor always call for passengers, even though it's not really neccessary, they're desperate.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Are you referring to the accident that happened yesterday in Naguilian Road? That was terrible. So the driver was avoiding a dog. The paper said that the brakes failed and so he tried to hit a tree but missed and fell down the ravine. I agree with you. I am afraid of riding in provincial buses especially at night. The drivers go in and out their lane and I just sleep so that I will not see the oncoming cars and scream. Despite all the accidents, the drivers still feel invincible until it happens to them (too late).
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello Advocate, oh, yeah. thanks for the update, i have also watch it in television. it's dangerous to ride one, what if the driver has gone over time and his eyes start giving up on him. just like i am when using the computer, sometimes, my eyes would go down on it's own, what more if the driver driving at night when it's too windy if he drives fast. wow romzz, if he deliberately announced it then how come the passengers didn't even bother going to another bus. aren't they aware that brake problems can cause serious accidents, even if the road is not accident prone, problems with the brakes is already considered "serious", i can't believe they allowed it.
@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Well according to one of the passenger who survived, the driver really did announced that the brake was really busted but then that road is really an accident prone area so I really wished that the DPWH will really look into it. I hate it that they will just start to investigate after people get hurt. Lives are important and these things could have been avoided. And I dont know why TV networks and authorities are easy to say that a case will be filed against the driver without even proper investigation. They don't even know the cause of the accident and its already tag as gross negligence resulting to multiple homicide.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
The main reason why bus drivers try to out run each other is because they earn on a commission basis. This means that the more passengers they have, the more take home pay they'll get. If they're paid on a monthly basis, chances are these drivers would not care whether the bus is full or not since their salary is fixed. With this arrangement, even the flow of buses, especially in our main thoroughfares will be controlled. This is ideal but works more for the drivers than the operators. Another factor is training. When i go home to the province, i usually take the bus and my observation is the lack of training in some of the bus companies that i ride with. These are normally colurum buses. so when i'm in a hurry and in a budget i take these colurum buses and pray to god that nothing drastic is going to happen. On the other hand, you can see that drivers in well known bus companies like piltranco really went through a thorough screening, they're arrival is even timed which means they can't go much faster than the allowed speed limit otherwise inspectors will question them when they arrive at their destination earlier than scheduled.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello ybong, Yeah, that's what i wonder, every Bus race their efforts to get more and more people every day, and only stops getting passengers when it's full adding those people who are standing up. yeah, lack of training has always been the caused or simply they forget about it. as for philtrangco, what if there's traffic, no wonder i see other staff on the busses besides drivers and ticket conductor.
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
20 Aug 10
It's acceptable if piltranco buses arrive late but not too early. arriving too early means that a driver is over speeding. Arriving late means that they either encounter bus problems along the way or they were caught in traffic but it's more of the former because it's very seldom that provincial buses are caught in traffic.
• United States
19 Aug 10
Sometimes nothing can stop an accident from happening. There was one not long ago in Minnesota with two buses, a semi and a pickup truck that was bad. The pickup truck cut the buses off and they did not have time to respond. However there was one in Cleveland not long ago where a driver picked up her kids from school and she was driving drunk. One of the older kids rounded the younger kids up when she stopped to drop a passenger off and they all went through the back and out so nobody was hurt because the bus driver wanted to do her route even though she was drunk. One of that kid's parents blocked the bus in when she tried to turn around and the cops came and arrested her but I think that the kid who got all those other kids out of the bus is a hero because they probably saved all those kids from a bad accident.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello Lindaharding, wow, very brave thing for that kid, and too bad for drunk driver. negligence can really kill passengers.
• United States
19 Aug 10
I have something to say about what my wife said and there is no excuse for negligence and negligence is no accident. The school officials should have seen the driver was drunk and called the cops and made sure no one got on the bus and called everyone's parents and had them come and pick up their child/ children because the bus driver is drunk. I hope that driver got fired and if I'm not mistaken DUI for bus drivers and semi drivers in the US is a felony for the first offense. .
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
I agree of that if you drive safety you gain more leasing to Jehovah God if not then many are killed because of what you are doing your life would be to punished in him.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello ebuscat, do you always have to put god in the discussion? ok let me put something this way, am sure God didn't want this to happen. it was due to human error and negligence that cause this accident.
• China
19 Aug 10
eh,i think if pay not very attention on driving ,every driver can be the killer. not only the bus driver but also others. in china ,metro ,bus ,private car ,truck ,van ,train ,all have some accidents, mostly due to the drivers ,and i don't know how to prevent them ,because it is up to person ,if he/she ignore the traffic ,then maybe a disaster will happen so when i am out ,i often look around ensure that no vehicles is running when the red light is working ,pls be careful everyday ,god bless us all
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello maomao, well, we have that kind of problem here, some are just wanted to be races in the public road. but this is the worst for me, because it was due to negligence plus the accident prone road and fast driving.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
I agree to that...
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello katherine, ah ok. be careful out there.
@nightkid (89)
• China
19 Aug 10
Compare to finding out who shoud be punished ,i think it is more important to find out the effective solution.But what we can do to prevent this phenomenon?Those drivers with no sence of responsibility do bring a great damage to the society.Did they really trained strictly before they got their license?Perhaps the systerm of selecting drivers itsself dose exist leaks.It deserves our doubt.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello nightkid, It's the fault of the driver, and for sure the company is accountable to it because they didn't tell the driver not to use the bus when they were all aware that there was a brake problem in that bus. that caused this accident.
@lfloresca (116)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
They really need lots of trainings to avoid this kind of accident that kills people
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello Ifloresca, training won't do good if the driver doesn't follow what he was trained for.and mind you, that happens almost all the time.
@ShenniLy (45)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Just had that experience last night when I rode a mini-bus with a very reckless driver. On my way home, he almost hit the big truck, he almost hit a man crossing, and he almost hit a car in an intersection. I kept on telling him to drive slowly for three times, still he didn't listen. The passengers were all in panic. Thank God we're all safe in the end.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
hello Shennily, That is pure negligence. the next time it happens, or before you ride the bus, please do the following. 1.photographed the plate number and the name of the buss company. 2. then, get to know the driver, ask his name. then if you have the number of LTFRB, text them and sent a message of complain about what this driver did. 3. don't ride on that bus again.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
well... bus is one of the hardest vehicle to be driven of (aside from truck). you can say this even if your not a regular driver by playing GTA. By thinking manipulating a bus in a cliff, it takes a lot of skill for a bus driver to pass that. And in addition, thinking of the event you said, Drivers are concentrating on manipulating the bus and suddenly a dog pass and he was shocked so it happens....
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello lonelyx20, well, if it's hard then they should not adding more passengers that makes them stand when the passenger seats are full.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Yes! I partially agree with you that drivers have the sole responsibility in whatever accident they mey incur. But then, sometimes the road condition and the weather condition too have also a fatal influence to accidents. Its really an irradiating thing to note that accidents are prone to bus drivers for a reason I think on my personal opinion is on the built of the vehicle since they are big compared to ordinary cars as well as the irresponsible drivers itself who don't care for their passengers. Just be careful man.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
hello icb, well, thank you for the reminder, i will. well, weather, and accidental prone roads can be a contribution to the problem but in this case, it was the drivers fault. i feel pity for these people, it's another reason why we should be blessed or maybe our time will be next, have a great day.
@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
18 Aug 10
it is not easy to be drivers. but you can not just blame the drivers, some bus company do not have their monthly check of the bus so some are defective already but still running around the city. there are a lot of incident in the streets that are not just drivers to be blame but also the owners of the vehicle. there are also drivers who thinks that they are the king of the road. it very sad to see innocent people die because of rudeness and negligence.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello Seven, The latest update mentioned that the driver pursue using that BUS even thought "he knew" the brakes were broken, now that is huge arrogance knowing brake problem can cause such an accident. and yes, negligence, on his part of not recognizing the danger of it.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
19 Aug 10
Here in Australia, where I live, we don’t have many bus accidents although bus drivers seem to take ownership of the road and expect right of way at all times. I guess it is the size of the vehicle that has something to do with it. I haven’t come across too many reckless drivers except on a tour bus in Corsica many years ago; the guy was crazy and everyone on the tour bus was terrified! The roads in Corsica are very narrow with a steep precipice on one side so you can imagine our fear! We found our later that he was drunk too! I hope my bad experience on a bus is a one off, I really do!
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello paula, i bet he lost his job after that. here, drunk drivers are not even allowed to use the bus. what happened here was due to negligence knowing he went on the ride anyway even though there's a problem with the Brakes.
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@Absinto (2385)
• Portugal
19 Aug 10
I dont think that is just the passengers that distract them. There was an incedent here where a bus driver hit an old woman that was crossing the street. It was partially his fault but he couldnt see because of the sun. At that time in the morning the sun rises towards us and we end up getting blinded by it. That makes us need to drive more carefully. But i dont think that it is their fault also buses are big vehicles and be able to stop or dogde from something it is kind of hard. That is why here they are trying to make the buses more efficient in stopping but without the risk of anybody inside getting hurt and the risk of the buss sliding to wherever they are dodging from.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello Absinto, If the sun was the problem then he should use Sun Glasses to see more. well, updates said it's both the drivers and company's fault. driver went on anyway even if there's brake problem and company didn't bother repairing first before the voyage.
@tyra005 (151)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Yes I agree to it. I was just experienced riding on the bus which is very careless. When I was on that bus I experienced something was just like a roller coaster ride and the vehicle was really close to other vehicle that is why I am so nervous maybe it will stick to the other bus and have an accident but thank God it did not happen. So If I am going to ride a bus, I want to see if the bus has a security that it will not bump into other vehicles. The ride was in the high way of EDSA.
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello tyra, I remember I was on this airconditioned BUS, i was standing. I didn't mind at first but when the driver overtake the Jeepney, the ladies who were standing nearly fell down and got really mad afterwards. i wouldn't blame them, the driver shouldn't have done it in the first place.
@sinaj292 (602)
• India
19 Aug 10
we can't blame the bus driver all the tame..... but some drivers are also present with rough driving,drunk driving ,,,, we have to take some serious actions against them.... but before going to blame on driver we have to study how the accident happen...... i think only 25% of drivers are bad.... remaining 75% doing well but unfortunately accident occurs ..
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello sinaij, how can we not blame them if the passengers lives are on their hands, and how can we blame the ticket conductor if he's job is get, collect money from passengers. and let know the driver if a passenger wants to go down from the bus. negligence is what cause of this accident and the driver is to blame for such negligence.
@elims15 (69)
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Its another lesson learn for the bus drivers out there.. They should not be be verbal to tell the people that they will be careful for their travel they should have an action for that..
• Philippines
19 Aug 10
Hello elims, yes, but i wonder if they would give a damn about it. am sure some are watching and being reminded of their training because of the incident. i think the driver was verbal, even mentioned there's a problem with the brakes, but the people were like dumb enough to realize the danger, so this happened. so sad really.