What's your story

@ivansama (758)
Bulgaria
August 24, 2010 11:26am CST
Hello all of you free thinkers. l know some of you were raised atheists but others weren't so lucky. so for the more unlucky ones l have a question. How did you come to realize that what you believed in is not true. lf you don't care about me or just don't wanna read skip the next part and just answer my question. Thanks in advance. My story is a rather common one. l was raised as an Orthodox christian because my mother is one and my father (an atheist) just didn't give a rat's...er you know what. Anyway right around the time l became 15 l was already reading and watching a lot of scientific material and started realizing that maybe some of the things that l was taught and to that moment believed in weren't exactly true. l kept questioning everything and realizing that there was absolutely no proof of god what so ever. Back then l was also in a rather bad place in my life and l also realized that since l was following god he should have given me some kind of a sign that it's worth to continue. But he never did. l really wanted to believe in but the science geek in me was telling me that it's impossible for such a creature to exist and l soon realized that l simply wasn't getting anything out of it. l kept doing research and found a lot of helpful websites and stuff that basically showed me how pathetic l was till that moment. it took me quite a while to admit to everyone that l was an atheist because l feared rejection. l feel a lot better now that l have done that though.
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@Jaluke (676)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I guess this topic sort of applies to me in a way, but not really. I'm not atheist, but I am agnostic so I still fall in the category of not truly believing in a higher power. I'm also not going to discredit it completely though because there is no true way for us to know exactly. My story is pretty short and simple. My family really only went to church a lot when me, my brother, and my cousins were younger. As we got older we kind of just didn't go anymore and the more that we kind of learned about the world and religion and really paid attention to the bible, the more we kind of realized that stuff didn't add up. My brother is atheist and I'm agnostic. That's really all there is to it.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
24 Aug 10
So again growing up is the main reason. good to know. and you know agnostic kinda means half an atheist , just kidding XD Thanks for replying to my discussion. you rock!
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• Canada
27 Aug 10
I realized a long time ago that there was no proof that any god existed. I find it interesting that each race or continent or sub culture seems to 'need' to believe that there is one for them. I don't fault them for it. But I do resent people insisting that I or others that do not believe as they do must 'convert'. I don't want to convert anyone, so don't force your views on me either. Live and let live is my motto.
@DawGwath (1042)
• Romania
28 Aug 10
Live and let live, great words. But when one does not let me live, I defend myself.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
28 Aug 10
Yeah it looks like we still need religion to give us a meaning of our lives. Which is terrible if you ask me. Amd l also hate when they insist that l will be judged or will burn in hell r what ever. and when they say they'll "pray for me". doesn't that annoy you?
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
28 Aug 10
But of course XD you can't just stand there and let them mock you XD l even get too defensive XD
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
30 Sep 10
Just like you I was raised in an Christian home but both of my parents were born again Christians and I had to be too. For most of my life I was a Christian. I was taught that the Bible was truth and the only truth in this world. If something did not line up with the Bible it not the Bible must be wrong. So you can see how at first I rejected all science that did not line up with the Bible like evolution and cosmology. As time went on in my adult life is close mindedness started to wane. I started to want to know what science had to offer regarding the origins of life and things like that. At first it was just curiosity I still believed that my Bible was right and they were wrong, but eventually I started to look at the info as a challenge to everything I knew to be right. I remember watching a PBS documentary on the Dover school board court case over intelligent design. I so badly waited the intelligent design advocate to give me something that would make me want to still believe that a creator, my creator created everything. Yet as I watched the arguments against ID were too complying to be ignored. Believe it or not that one show did more to start my journey to atheism than anything else. So I tried theistic evolution on for size but I couldn't understand why if there was no real Adam, no real Eve, no real Eden, and no real talking snake then how did sin enter humanity? Without sin entering humanity then why was Christ necessary? I could ask a preacher these questions because the only ones that I knew personally would tell me that all of that evolution stuff is from Satan. So I decided to listen and read what atheist had to say about the subject. After a while I abandoned all beliefs in a deity. Need to point out that along my journey I was a deist. I slowly inched out of the atheist closet and I finally embraced my lack of belief in deities. When I did this it was like a giant weight was lifted off of my shoulders. I no longer worried about the after life all I had to concern myself with was the present. When I was a Christian I was always worried that I was going to sin one day and either die before I asked for forgiveness or the rapture was going to happen before I asked for forgiveness. I would wake up from dreams that I missed the rapture. I would panic if I walked into a room that I thought should have someone in it thinking that I missed the rapture. Now I know that hell, the rapture and thing like that were just stories that I was told to keep me afraid and to keep me in line with the Christine message. Now that I do not believe in such non-sense I have never experienced any of these things. Ivansama thank you for sharing and letting me share my story.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
30 Sep 10
Your story was really interesting. l especially like how you tried theistic evolution and realized it had gaping plot holes XD Thanks for sharing, friend. it was one great story l'd say keep the faith but that would kinda defeat the purpose XD
• United States
30 Sep 10
People who have faith in Jesus don't need proof. Just think if you are wrong and you go to hell because you didn't believe. Not believing in Jesus and His Word does not take a load off anyone's back...especially if they end of being wrong. Of course, I know they will come to know it sooner or later.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
1 Oct 10
And what if you are wrong? You have passed your faith in you particular deity but what if your deity does not exist yet some of deity exist? You would still be going to hell or what ever punishment that this deity dispense punishment. You have no proof that your deity exist so why would anyone believe that your deity exist? Why would you even believe in something that you do not have any proof of existence? Do you believe in elves?
• United States
1 Oct 10
No, but if you do, you keep on keepin' on. I am sure they will be at the door any moment now.
• United States
1 Oct 10
You say I am off topic because I do not agree with you and your posters. I am a poster, and I have a right to post anywhere I please. You are new here and have a lot to learn. Not everyone will agree with you.
• India
25 Aug 10
The chaff feels the same way after it is sifted because it now knows that it will not be ground, it will not be kneaded and it will not be baked. However, what it does not know is that its happiness will be short-lived. After the grain is gathered into the barn, it would be tied into a bundle to burn in eternal fire. What I have learnt about science is that it does not have an answer to so many questions. As religion it has to rely on hypothesis, for example about the creation event. It is still presuming that the universe has evolved out of primordial atom, it all started from Big bang, but science has nothing to prove it. Science has no answer to the question, whether we are alone in this universe. Why there is life only on planet earth and why it is not existing on another planets? Science has no answer to question whether we are getting better or we are becoming worse. It does not know how it would all end up. At least religion tells us that we must not lose hope. We will end up in kingdom of heaven. I am quite comfortable with my faith, I am not comfortable with science.
@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
25 Aug 10
But as apposed to religion science tries to find the answers and not doesn't just explain everything it doesn't understand with mythical creatures and what not. See? there's the difference. There may in fact be life on another place in our own solar system that's what science says. Science is up to date and always looks for the rational explanation. The fact that you're more comfortable with faith other than science speaks of your level of intelligence. And not in a good way. Religion has way more questions and plot holes and absolutely no evidence as apposed to science which always supports it's statements with such.
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@ivansama (758)
• Bulgaria
25 Aug 10
No use. he rejects the concept of science XD
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• Canada
25 Aug 10
Observations by scientists so far support the Big Bang Theory. There is no other model for the start of the universe that can predict as much as the Big Bang does. Here is some evidence: 1. We know that the universe is expanding. In the past, it was therefore smaller, which points to an infinitesimally small beginning point. 2. Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation - essentially an echo of the universe when it was 300,000 years old, and is predicted by the Big Bang. When something, such as the matter making up the universe, is compressed, it becomes hot due to particle movement. Before the universe was 300k years old, it was too hot for atoms to form. Due to this, photons (light particles) could not move around since they kept reacting with electrons. When the universe was 300k years, atoms could form, and this caused the 'first light' - which is what CMB is. 3. The Big Bang predicts that certain amounts of elements - hydrogen, helium, etc - should exist. Observations have shown the existence of almost exactly what is predicted. What is important about science though is that it tests it theories again and again and again. It can change with new discoveries: it is not static. None of this can be said about religion. We may not be right about the big bang, or we may not fully understand all aspects of it, but that's okay, because what science is after is truth. As for being alone in the universe, I don't think there is any scientist alive today that believes that. We know life has the ability to form on other planets, we just do not have the equipment to find it yet. This is not a problem with science, but with limitations in technological developments. I will tell you this though, had religion not become such a driving force in this world, we would no doubt have the technology for it by now.
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