Conservative outrage towards the Koran burning

Yeah I know but at lest I thought that I would try. You are getting called a RINO while I am being accused of getting my info from Keith Olbermann.

"This is why I get into trouble and am called a RINO." You'll only get in trouble for doing the same thing as gewcew and not getting your facts straight. At least you didn't start the thread though so I'm not going to hassle you that much. Hannity, Beck, and Palin have ALL spoken out against this moron and they all did it pretty fast as this story only broke a couple days ago. The heads of many Christian churches have also condemned his actions. In fact, the church that HE STARTED excommunicated him years ago for his hate-filled speeches towards Muslims. Seriously Spall, I don't see ANYONE of any stature that isn't against this guy. This isn't some right vs left issue like gewcew is pathetically trying to make it. Both sides are in 100% agreement that what he's doing is both inappropriate and constitutionally protected.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/olbermann-stopping-the-koran-burning-is-a-practical-issue/ Keith Olbermann Asks ‘Where Are GOP Politicians’ Condemning Koran Burning Event? Look familiar?

As I said I might be mistaken, but just because they oppose the Koran burning does not mean that they are doing anything about it. As I said are Beck and Palin jumping on a plane to fly down to Gainesville, Florida? They will go to D.C but not to stop a crazy preacher. Same for the rest of them. Laglen accusing me of getting my info from Olberman, I am not even going to get in to it with you.

Thanks laglen. I knew that some like Palin and Hannity had expressed their disapproval of this fellow, but I didn't have all the sources and you saved me going to look them up to formulate my response. No one thinks what this guy is doing is right. Some of us just think people should ignore him, but the media is making a mountain out of this tiny mole hill of a man.

Hmm. I'm a little puzzled here. Is the new benchmark for standing against something actually that high now? If you're really, really against it, you'll go down there and stop a person from exercising their rights instead of suggesting they shouldn't because it's foolish. Ah. That's a little hard to chew. I've said jokingly before that if anti-war protestors were really against the war, then they'd go stand between the soldiers as they fought to stop the bullets. Obviously that'll never happen. And it's not to be expected. It's a lot to ask of someone to try to physically put a stop to any event, much less some off-the-grid loon whose HUGE plot is to burn paper. Paper. Not blowing anyone up. Not physically assaulting anyone. Now, I'm against these loonies wanting to burn books--and no I wouldn't go down there to physically stop them either lol--but at the end of the day its only real damage is that it's offensive to people. And not for nothin', but a lot of Muslims are uberoffended by a lot less than that. So the idea of placating their every sensibility to the point of putting a stop to someone ready to set fire to holy scripture is right much. No?

All I am saying is that they have shown more outrage over other things of less importance, aka Beck on Woodrow Wilson but what ever. They probably don't or they don't want to

The guy is a big time anti-Muslim type. Apparently he regularly writes about the evils of the Muslim religion making no distinction between terrorists and law abiding muslims. He founded a church in Germany and even they excommunicated him back in 2008. I think I read that his "clergy" numbers about 50 people and in a state like Florida, with about 25 million, It's not hard to find 50 morons.

How is this guy's activities really of any importance? What could be LESS important? Woodrow Wilson is a pretty important person you know. He was president of this country for two terms and took actions that were part of what led to the Great Depression some time after.

My point for what ever reason has gone over like a lead balloon, but what ever. Fine conservatives have condemned this pastor, even though that was not my point.

I'm really starting to wonder if you ever had a point. It looks like this was a conservative bashing thread that went awry when you realized that your whole basis for it was a complete fabrication. You'd do better to just acknowledge you were wrong and move on with dignity. Instead you're just complaining that they didn't condemn him enough or that they're not at his house throwing stones through his windows.

The people who want him to "do something" are likely foreigners and some locals who just don't give a crap about the constitution and 1st amendment. This is one situation where I, and damn near the whole country, 100% agrees that Obama did everything he could do. He denounced it, suggested the guy not do it, and made his disagreement clear. Now if he really wanted to be sheisty about it, he could push his friends in the local and state government to pass laws banning burning on certain days or at certain times, or recommend other obnoxious ordinances to get in the guy's way, but all that would just make the president look like a bad guy and really do little more than delay the inevitable.

Oh boy!

Kind of like Nostradamus.

there are ALWAYS religious quarrels going on. nice easy prediction that is.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should do something.

Im not for the burning of the quran, but I am sick of the double standards

What double standards? No one is saying that the pastor can't but I am saying he shouldn't and someone who speaks his language should try to talk some sense into him.

I did not know that they voice opposition toward the Koran burning, but a one time comment on a subject is not the same thing as they do on a daily bases. You know what I am talking about. They will go months on one subject. Where did you get the idea that I am advocating the blocking the pastor constitutional rights? I do find it funny that was your knee jerk reaction. I know that this is a cheep shot but conservatives advocate blocking constitutional right, holding people without trial, listening to phone conversions without a warrant, getting themselves into unconstitutional wars, and so on. Hell I gave a solution. So Gen. Petraeus doesn't know what he is talking about?

"I did not know that they voice opposition" An whose fault is that? Maybe you should try doing 2 seconds of research next time. "one time comment on a subject is not the same thing as they do on a daily bases." It's been like 2 days since this story broke gewcew. Were they all supposed to make TWO statements to placate you? "They will go months on one subject." Well it's kind of hard to spend months on a subject that's only a few days old. "Where did you get the idea that I am advocating the blocking the pastor constitutional rights?" I didn't say you were and it was not a knee-jerk reaction. I'm just wondering what you expect from ANYONE beyond statements of opposition. That's really all anyone can do with regards to the 1st amendment. Apparently that's not good enough for you. Either way, you didn't answer my question so I'll repeat it for you. What EXACTLY do you want them to do? "I know that this is a cheep shot.." It's both a cheap and poorly aimed shot since none of the garbage following that applies to me. This isn't even a conservative vs liberal issue since both sides are largely in agreement that this behavior is both inappropriate and constitutionally protected. I don't know why you're even trying to make it that when this is actually a rare moment of complete agreement.

It's all a moot point now. The church has agreed to not burn any books. The Koran burning ceremony has been canceled. Now we can only hope there are no copycat criminals out there.

Problem is this guy might be putting the lives of other people in danger so it is worth talking about to put press on him to stop.

I agree that we shouldn't be giving morons so much play. Other morons previously oblivious will catch wind and then they'll multiply like gremlins.

bit of a catch 22 isn't it?

If he doesn't want to be responsible then he need to knock it off.

He has decided to knok it off, but he is undere the mistaken impression that he has a deal that the mosque in NYC will be moved to a new location if he doesn't burn the Koran. He is wrong.