At my Yahoo account................I Was perplexed to read the following........

India
October 21, 2010 2:13am CST
"Should a Women marry her rapist? When a rapist offers to marry the victim, one would think it’s the perfect solution.But isn’t this victimization of the victim all over again?" The above was the topic among others that appeared on the opening page,which I decided to bring it inforent of the mylot platform under the Google Head,Its a really a painful topic that one cannot ignore it unless and untill the reader is inhuman,and therefore I am in a perplexed situation how to react to it.Its totally unjustified for the women folks to be victimized again and again with the States authorization working in tandem with the perpetrator of crime against the society. What's your say,what do you think,convey it along with the SOLUTION..... Happy mylotting,& keep the perpetrator behind the Bar for ever
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
21 Oct 10
First of all, let me say that I don't condone rape and nor do I wish to minimise the seriousness of it. The act is ALWAYS, at the time, a violation of a human right and nothing can mitigate that. What I am going to say may seem like a justification of rape. It is not ... and I apologise to anyone, especially any rape victim, if they think it is. Rape is NEVER justified. It is possible, however, to forgive, though expecting or constraining someone to 'forgive' would be simply compounding the violation of freedom of choice. I can see that, under certain circumstances, the man might be genuinely sorry and that he could have acted 'out of character'. He might, in fact, go on to be a loyal, loving and good husband and, as such, might be forgiven and even accepted as a partner. Such a marriage might work - but only through the grace and forgiveness of the woman and the contriteness and acceptance of the man. It would be very much up to the individual circumstances and you could NEVER say, as a generality, that "The right thing to do would be for the woman to marry him." Rape is regarded differently in different cultures. It is not that it is thought of as less serious in some cultures than in others but that the definition of what is considered rape can vary. In the West, we have long considered love to be the only criterion for marriage. We don't (or we no longer) have arranged marriages, as a rule. As such, the West see the system of arranged marriages which is common in some cultures as very open to abuse. I am quite sure that some (but, of course, not all) arranged marriages constitute actual and licensed rape, though the rapist is officially married to his unwilling bride beforehand. A marriage like that, it seems to me, is actually a worse crime than an individual and unpremeditated rape because it involves the collusion of the girl's own family (who should be there to protect her, not to sell her as if she were an animal to be mated). The passage you quote actually says nothing about State or social involvement, though you imply that it mentions that later. To ask or expect the rapist to offer marriage to the victim (and to expect or pressure the woman to accept the proposal) as a 'solution' would be entirely wrong. It would simply be another violation of freedom and, though I can envisage a society where such pressure would be seen as the 'morally correct' solution, I could not possibly accept being a part of it. Your topic is a complicated and interesting one. Thank you for posting it. It raises many questions about the ways in which the crime of rape is viewed by different societies - it is not always as clear-cut everywhere in the world as some people think. I expect - or, rather, hope - to see a number of different views here and I am quite sure that some of them will violently disagree with mine.
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• India
22 Oct 10
Hi owlwings, You are absolutely very right and have balanced approach on your response but at one juncture it seems your are very annoyed or might have personal misunderstanding,though at times you have accepted that "not all marriages constitute actual and licensed rape" where by it seems that you have already assumed that most of the arrange marriages are forced marriage by the parents of the bride,but its is not so; its just the opposite,where the parents of the bride take the acceptance from the would be bride before the actual marriages takes place,and it is also the same with the grooms side as well. The Arrange Marriage is quite modern which have already incorporated lots of western rituals quite easily,and without diluting the original essence of those mythological great epics as an example with all the pros and cons,not to be bound of ,which you got it wrongly,for the sake of our knowledge I am bringing one episode of the God Sita's marriage to the God Rama,even then during those days they have taken care to take the consent of the Bride God Sita.(Ignorance can't be bliss to you......its time to go through it,if we take it as a mere story then let it be so,but on the whole Earth there no other great Story then "Ramayana"&"Maha-Bharat") What I want to emphasis is that in no culture there is any forceful arrange marriage,or any such practice been justified and if it is there its just b'coz of the modern day culture of Financial burden that's been forced upon by the so called Political figures(double faced)hand in hand with the modern day culture,where both you and myself and even the whole world is enjoying,just by providing mere lip-service on day to daily basis. You are quite right that different views will crop up here which may disagree.....we still need to learn more and understand it,and it will happen only when we go through it at least THRICE. Happy mylotting,& let the Man of crime against humanity be behind the Bar.
@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
22 Oct 10
Hi rocket2020. Yes, I am incensed by the 'rape' aspect of some arranged marriages. I don't have any personal experience but I have read many stories which involve Muslim young men and girls being forced into marriages. I think that your Hindu arranged marriages are quite different from this. Most arranged marriages, of course, are done with proper decorum and respect for the parties involved but a worrying few are not.
• India
23 Oct 10
That's b'coz at the first instant I have rated your wonderful balanced response as the Positive one,Its very simple fact which one cannot ignore that the Hindu way of arrange marriages been practiced for the centuries and all the people over here are not insane,but yes there is always an exception which exist in every culture throughout the world,again which is universal. Its really fun to discusses along with you who is one of the senior,and therefore this fact too cannot be ignored. Happy mylotting,& engagement.
@drannhh (15219)
• United States
25 Oct 10
This discussion brings to mind a legal matter where someone I know was called to jury duty in a case where a teacher in his forties had seduced one of his former students, a girl of fourteen which in the US constitutes statutory r*pe but as it took a long time for the criminal case to go to trail, by the time they got there, the girl was old enough and expressed the desire to stay with this man who had by then married her and they had a baby. But the girl's mother insisted the prosecution go forward as she wanted custody of the child (her grandchild) for herself. There is no question but that the law was broken there, but it is a very different situation than when someone breaks violently into a home and attacks another human being, or if the girl had been much younger, say 8 or 9 years old instead of 14. Certainly, a woman should not be forced to marry someone she does not wish to marry. It should be the woman's free choice.
• India
25 Oct 10
Hi drannhh, Yes on the last part of your post speaks it loud and clear the its should be the women choice and nobody else should force to take the decision on behalf. While the first part of your post deals with a bizarre scenario which does happens all over the world and therefore the mother of the girl is very correct to pursue the case against the so called teacher,but one thing nobody on this Earth had or ever be able to understand what's there in the women mind,how complex it is........ On this part of the Globe its a bad stigma which gets attached if a girl is been subject to such an incident,and therefore no man(this man is buckled down by his own relatives namely his Mother,Sister and even the society as well.) comes forward to marry that innocent victim,hence the girl is blackmailed to get married to her rapist;but on the other hand this sort of things does not happens(very open society) but still how come the victim gets married to her rapist? Happy mylotting & enigmatic women mind.
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
21 Oct 10
So, what was the context of the comment? Who wrote it? Not knowing who I am talking about, I will just say that if they were serious in that comment, they are of a very simple mind. Such a marriage could happen, but more than likely it would be like combining a blow torch with a can of gasoline, for the rest of their lives.
• India
23 Oct 10
Hi djbtol, You are very right,and its unparalleled and universal throughout the world,where the Women are victimized again and again,the society is not yet grown up. Happy mylotting,and lets grow-up.
@bardgirl (362)
• United States
21 Oct 10
That's just nuts. I watch a soap where a girl did marry her rapist and I find it disgusting. I just don't see it ever happening. Sure it might be possible to forgive the rapist but I really doubt that anyone out there would marry their rapist.
• India
23 Oct 10
Hi bardgirl, Yes,nobody will go again marry the rapist,to be ......throughout her life,It very complex situation and cannot be solved easily,but one thing has to be taken into consideration that's it had to be decided only by the women only,what is best for them. Happy mylotting,& hat's off for the Womanhood.