Our Vice President should resign he has no right to rule.
By SinRealm
@SinRealm (558)
Philippines
November 5, 2010 2:36pm CST
Some weeks ago (probably a month already). Acts of violence happened during the board exam, people got wounded and a bystander even lost her leg because some guy threw a grenade. The suspects are fraternity people. And fraternity people here are nothing more but scum who does nothing but take advantage of our country if not all then most of them.
Now... What does this have to do with our Vice President? Our Vice President is a fraternity boy... Errr... Man... And his judgments towards fraternity involved crimes are very very bias. A few weeks ago, he himself went all out to defend the suspects all because the suspects were a part of his fraternity. This isn't the first time he did such. A few months ago, a person died because of fraternity hazing. Instead of helping pursue the criminals, he said (not exact words) "No one is at fault. The victim was willing to join and accept getting beaten up". (I've seen people who did some hazing and they were smiling while beating up the person they are hurting)
Bias right? He's like second in command here and he's being bias. When one is to rule, one should not be bias. What he's doing is protecting a bunch of criminals. Proof or no proof. People who cause pain to others need to be punished.
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17 responses
@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Yeah i was surprise he even involve himself in this case. Let the police do their work without him interfering and giving his opinion. There are four witnesses let the judge decide. Personally i never like Binay his concept of morality is low for a good leader.
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@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
I saw one of his interview and he was asked if its okay for people to give politicians money or gifts and he said its okay because its their way of thanking the official that helped them. A good public servant should not accept anything of great value from anyone even if its their birthday.
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@inday_lorna1970 (1268)
• United States
6 Nov 10
lol! lol! it's fun to read responses. like you said.!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
Can't blame that on me, I didn't vote for him either. i agree the leader should be resolute and do what's right for the victims.
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@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
I agree that his statements were uncalled for. He is the vice-president of the country and not just of his fraternity. When the news came out that he surrendered the suspect and then declared his innocence, I immediately raised my eyebrows. Who is he to make such a statement? He is not the court. Not even the police can declare a person guilty - that is for the courts to decide. As a leader of this country, he should try and be circumspect with his statements. The DOJ Secretary has spoken and she is the alter ego of the President, that is, what she says is what the President in effect says also. The Vice-President should not be seen as someone going against his President. They should work together. His actions will surely come back to haunt him when he runs for president in 2016.
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@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Heard that too, but hey, I'm an optimist! There has been a lot of talk that Binay was buoyed up by his win, and will surely run for president then ... if the world is still standing, that is.
@inday_lorna1970 (1268)
• United States
6 Nov 10
In 2016?? that's loooooooong way to go for them..they said: the world will end on 2012. what do you think of that.?
@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Right now his actions are slowly giving him a bad name, starting with us. We keep spreading word, I'm sure it would haunt him.
@inday lorna: Yahoo says there would be a SolarStorm... Hopefully it doesn't.
@Advocate: I hope more frat violence comes out. That way these frats would be considered as criminals and Binay's supporters would end up in prison. And hopefully frat violence I'm hoping for only involves the frat people and not the innocent bystanders.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
I won't exactly agree to what he said. He is after all the Vice president and it's important that he watch he's words all the time since it's going to be quoted and people from all sides will have differing opinions about it. Personally, i don't agree that no one's at fault instead it is the person himself who choose to become a member of a fraternity whose the one at fault. He knew right before he joined that there's going to be hazing, in a hazing people are beaten black and blue and they knew that they are not going to be treated to a facial treatment, a foot spa or a full body massage instead it is the opposite. The truth is there some people who don't learn from the mistakes of others. If there are people who want to join frats then let them be, they already knew what they're getting themselves into and if they die in the process "buti nga".
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
I agree. Can't blame me for being too harsh either. I'm merely speaking based on personal experience and that is being a member of a fraternity myself 
. Like every one else, I joined out of curiosity and to have that sense of being "in". but I made sure that I'm not going to be beaten black and blue like what they do in some well known fraternities. Some of the members of the fraternity i joined in are already close friends which i already consider my brothers that i can even trust my life with them. The frat was only supposed to strengthen the bond (kuno) but it was never like that, our friendship remained the same but i never became close to my other brods.
. Like every one else, I joined out of curiosity and to have that sense of being "in". but I made sure that I'm not going to be beaten black and blue like what they do in some well known fraternities. Some of the members of the fraternity i joined in are already close friends which i already consider my brothers that i can even trust my life with them. The frat was only supposed to strengthen the bond (kuno) but it was never like that, our friendship remained the same but i never became close to my other brods.@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Being harsh is sometimes a must if you're going to rule. I too ended up in a frat, but after seeing how bad the people there are. I decided not to be active, then another year I got invited to another. I declined and things haven't been kind for me. Those who die in the process of hazing are also deserving (except when forced, I have seen some guys get forced into frats). But as for Binay, he should be punished for his actions. He doesn't even have a bond with the fraternity people he's defending. And if he does, he still can't be bias. This is the Philippines not APO.
@rinfour (250)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
There are plenty of people in power who are members of fraternities, confraternities, and even sororities. I really can't blame the VP for saying that the victim was willing to undergo hazing, because from what I've heard from my friends, they are not coerced into participating. BUT it is a rite of passage. If you want to join the elite group, then your resolve should be tested.
In law school, fraternities are almost essential if you want to have better standings. You can get the help of your "brods" for studying and after passing the bar. After all, this is where you will build your connections to elite law firms and high profile clients.
I would also like to say that not all fraternities are bad. There are some that promote camaraderie and charity too. They organize outreach programs and the like to contribute to society.
ALSO it is not in Binay's powers to meddle in Judicial affairs because he is in the Executive branch. He should just focus on his responsibilities and stop meddling in other people's affairs. What's happening to the Globe Asiatique problem anyway??
@rhodzptc (1317)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
Hungry for power? you hit the right word! Actually every one are hungry for fame and power and that is only the result of what a powerful person can do. They can even turn the bad into good. I have no against with out VP I only wanted you to know that not only the VP is hungry for power but every single one of those politicians.
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@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
My grandpa was a part of a frat and his resolve was tested in a different way. He told me how fraternities have changed and he himself told me that joining one isn't good.
The problem with fraternities now, anyone can join as long as you undergo initiation. And hazing has already become a norm for initiation. And then there is a thing called Sakit o Sarap for women. Very immoral if you ask me...
True, not all frats are bad. But most of them now are. Take the last board exam for example, why are they even carrying weapons when all they planned to do was celebrate and support their team.
As for Binay, what you said about him is so true. He needs to be more responsible. If not he should just resign. There are more who are better than him.
@rinfour (250)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
There are other forms of initiation. Not all fraternities use those methods for their rite of passage. Some of my friends from law school said that they didn't get beaten in order to pledge. I guess they should just choose their groups wisely. There are some frats who even participate in gang-like violence which is totally not good.
As for the VP's resignation, I do not think it will happen anytime soon. I do not even think he is considering such an act. He seems HUNGRY for power and being VP is not going to quench his thirst.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
i absolutely think that he should start working and stop just reading the newspapers and reacting to every news he gets to see. we have not heard any of his plans as the vice president... we have not seen any of the things a vice president should be doing in the first place. this man's got no shame at all... =(
we needed the change in this country and i strongly believe he is not going to be a part of it.. i hope i am wrong but clearly he seems as if he's got a plan of his own(some personal one)
@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
He keeps bragging about how successful Makati is. He never gave it success, Makati is already successful when he ruled it. He just maintained it. Unlike the guy who changed Marikina or Erap who improved San Juan, what Binay did to Makati is nothing. He just placed his friends/family on position.
@yellowhipon (793)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
I do agree with your opinion that he shouldn't have said that the suspects are innocent just because they're his brothers (in the fraternity).But WE can't say that they're guilty,too. Remember, they are innocent until proven guilty. Although there are evidence, until the hearing isn't over, they are innocent. And lets be fair. Not all fraternities are scum bags. I know fraternities that are doing good and are trying to help change this society for the better. Its true that there are bad fratmen, but theirs is just a case of joining the fraternity for all the wrong reason. I'm not affiliated to any of these fraternities or sororities. But I am friends with fratmen and sorority girls who have bigger hearts than most people who judge them.
@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
You're right. Its just that I see most bad fraternities. But I still don't like fraternities here. Even if they are good they influence the bad ones. Good frat does something good, bad ones want the same prestige, they do their own thing only in a bad way... But... Each to his opinion. Though you are right about the not guilty until proven. Its just that we really can't take acts of violence lightly. Acts of violence are really wrong.
@vycess (1588)
• Saudi Arabia
7 Nov 10
Really? I'm not aware that our vice president is a member of a fraternity? For real? Well, in my opinion I don't think he is being bias for saying no one is at fault. But of course one should be responsible in that hazing thing. I really like mylot, I'm learning here.
@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
He is a member of APO, anyways, him saying no one is at fault is still kinda wrong. Both parties are at fault. The victim and the one who did the hazing. Problem with Binay, he never did a thing about the hazing thing. Instead he just said that no one is at fault and let it slide. Hazing used to happen in the Spartan/Roman brotherhoods and has been acceptable in ancient times... The problem is... We're no Spartans and why bother following old ways that are wrong?
@inday_lorna1970 (1268)
• United States
6 Nov 10
I don't know who is the vice president in philippines now. I don't have much update about what's happening now in the country. But I am ever so thankful for sharing what's going on in the philippines.! I had been working all the time..! If not we will be in a hell of mess.!
@rhodzptc (1317)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
For me this doesn't mean that he is being bias by defending the side of fraternity hazing and riot. He is just being logical with his own reasoning. As you may see that if we blame all this is caused about by fraternity then it would be used as a escape goat of those criminals who got involved.
@diogz22 (516)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
At some point he is right at saying "No one is at fault. The victim was willing to join and accept getting beaten up". Who the hell in the right mind is willing to do so just to be in a group? will you accept beaten up by your buddies in order to hang out with them? Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
@romzz05 (572)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
Some students are also lured to join frats. my brother was asked to join and he said no they actually stalked him for weeks giving him the intimidating look. They also offer some sort of protection and give you reasons to join the frat like this prof will be nicer to you since he is a brod so technically they gave them all the benefits and most of the time does not mention the hazing part.
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@crimiloilo123 (77)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Hi SinRealm, that is your freedom and we are a democratic form of government.All I can say is we still have to give time for them.Our VP has an expertise to govern from a simple boy to an influential political figure in our politics today.My empirical approach to this is, the present government cannot give 100% transparency to us.I wonder why how can be today's government can give that transparency.His fraternity group I tend not to mention help him while he is running for the 2010 VP elections and a KEY for him to won.Transparency is somewhat difficult case to stand for.
@SinRealm (558)
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
True, although Binay is one corrupt person. Most his corrupt ways haven't been exposed so I don't speak about it as much. But him being bias is one thing that is wrong. Transparency may be good but it isn't always right. And besides, some people who want to join fraternities want connections to use for their advantage. And most of the time those kind of people are the ones who are not living an honest life.
@mumaysagrado (38)
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
You have the point...and i think everyone has...there is a possibilities that who ever fault we should not be judge unless we listen to each sides...I mean who knows..do you? I just have a problem of someone who let themselves judge anyone while they don't know the story yet, I'm not in anyone's side unless I know the real score, VP, Victims and suspects are still our fellow Filipino and somehow I hate RP's F****** System, I don't know the play, or the game...but for me i think we're just watching a drama...that has a producer, director, actor and actresses, extras and everyone is watching like it is all true i remember most of happening here in our country is just like a film with "SCRIPT" I don't know if I have to believe in every scenes. like the election? you satisfied? I'm not because we are not yet in the climax...so good luck to those who are in the position..act hard so no one can recognize your play...(this is just my opinion....)i believe some of with the highest rank also has the highest TF and they are the very good actors...:)
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
I am a bit concerned, too, that we have him in the second highest office in the land. But don't worry too much, things has a way of naturally getting back at those who abuse others. When it happens to him, he won't know what hit him. That is what deux ex machina is for, right?
@Bushin (141)
• Philippines
10 Nov 10
Ive got you're point in that dudes. But we cannot all blame to VP all that was happening in those fraternity stuff. Ive got also the point of mister VP that "The victim is willing to join and accept getting beaten up". It clearly states that beaten up not to the extension that the person will die.
@jeanneyvonne (5501)
• Philippines
17 Nov 10
I think it will take more than just a biased statement to get him out of his office. You are forgetting the people who voted for him - if you judge the candidate, you also judge the people who voted for that candidate. Also, I guess he cannot help being biased since he is in a very public position and at the same time a member of that fraternity. It just goes that he is the position to sway opinions on a topic that he is clearly familiar with - the reason why media flocked to him to ask for his opinion.
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