A Rand Paul position that liberal will support

@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
November 8, 2010 4:35pm CST
During the campaign some of Rand's comments drew the ire of liberals and progressives but the Senator-elected is starting to show off his libertarian side. Normally when you ask people to name what spending cuts they want to cut you get a bunch of non-sense about cutting stuff that would amount to nothing or cuts that would just shift the cost from the federal level to the state and local level. Finally we have some actually spend cuts that would significantly address the budget deficit, cut military spending. Is this call coming from a Democratic politician no but from the newly elected Senator from Kentucky Rand Paul. Taking a page from his father Congressmen Ron Paul who has argued that the easiest way to solve the budget problems was to cut military spend so to does Rand support such logic. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/rand-paul-gop-military-spending-cuts/
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@trruk1 (1028)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Good for him for having the courage to say we need to cut military spending. We spend more than everybody else in the world put together. A good start would be to end both of the Bush wars. And stop buying fancy gadgets the Pentagon does not want but are funded anyway because some Congressman wants them built in his district. Rand Paul is way out in space on a lot of stuff, but he is absolutely right with this. The way to spend less is--to spend less.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 Nov 10
"We spend more than everybody else in the world put together" I'd ask for a source, but I don't need to since I already know you're wrong. I'm sure you've heard this line from some moron like Olbermann or Bill Maher, but it's long since been debunked. We spend more than any INDIVIDUAL country, but not more than all of them combined.
@trruk1 (1028)
• United States
10 Nov 10
It's been debunked? Okay, I will be a little more precise: we spend more than the next 17 nations combined. Bill Maher a moron? You may not agree with him, but he is certainly one of the smartest and quickest people on the planet. That is how you and your ilk operate, though. Say rude things about people with whom you disagree. Somehow you think that is an adequate substitute for actual discussion.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Good point that Ron Paul and Barney Frank came up with a huge cut for the military. I am big on ensuring that our military has enough funds but there is HUGE waste. I agree all cuts should be considered.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Just look at all the military bases the US has all around the world and how much money it takes to keep those bases running.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
10 Nov 10
exactly. How about $400 for nuts and bolts (made up number but you get my point)
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
9 Nov 10
If we are going to solve the financial crisis we are in we must look at everything the government spends money on. Rand Paul has also said that when looking at spending cuts everything is on the table. I would agree with his position and think that it should be an across the board cut. I would also include the Congress, that spends Billions on staffing each year. To see what each Congressman and Senator has for a staff salary, excluding their salary, go to: http://www.legistorm.com/salaries.html For comparison I selected two congressmen the first is Ron Kind from Wisconsin who has been in Congress for 10 years and last year spent over $900,000 on staffing and collected a salary of $174,000. The second is one, John Boehner minority leader, last year spent over $900,000 and a salary of $193,000. As Minority leader he also has staff budget of close to $3,000,000. There are 20 leadership positions that have paid staff. Then you add the Senate which staff costs between $2,000,000 to $4,000,000 each and the 20+ leadership positions with paid staff. When they start to cut let them start with their own expenses.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
8 Nov 10
The military is just like any other government institution. There is plenty of fat that can be trimmed. I'm not saying the guys in Iraq or Afghanistan should be using inferior weapons, armor, or intelligence equipment, but we could certainly cut, or eliminate, bases in parts of the world where we really aren't needed or in some cases even wanted, anymore. How many soldiers do we really need in Japan, Germany, or Iceland? There was certainly a time where those brave men and women were vital to keeping said areas stable, but now those are among the most stable places on the planet. How much does it cost to staff and run those bases? What are the costs of keeping all the men and women there with the vehicles and equipment?
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Just in Europe alone we have military bases in Germany, UK, Italy, Spain, Greece, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Portugal, Netherlands, Greenland, Turkey, and Poland.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Exactly my point. I'm not saying we should close ALL of them, but just imagine how much we'd save closing half or most of them. It's not like they really need us. Most of those countries have good solid militaries and stable economies.
• United States
8 Nov 10
Ron Paul and Barney Frank worked on a bill that cut the defense budget and save us 1 TRILLION dollars over the next 10 years. Did anyone in Washington listen? NO! If those two (one a republican and one a democrat) can work together and come up with a bill they both can agree on that saves us money...why can't the rest of them work together. Our defense budget is HUGE and full of waste. Hopefully having some libertarians in there now will help out.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
9 Nov 10
Why could the rest of them work together, that is the million dollar. To often if anyone does dare to work with the other side they get tared and feathered.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
9 Nov 10
We haven't really had a policy of working with the other side for several years now. Both sides are to blame to some degree, but with a supermajority the democrats have been reveling in it. Hopefully we'll see more willingness to work together now that we have a balance of corruption in both houses.