Maybe John Lennon wasnt that nice a guy

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Canada
November 22, 2010 2:29am CST
I watched a movie on John Lennon this evening on PBS and I used to be SO in love with John. I wanted to go live with him and be with him all the time. I was SO angry with Yoko, I thought she was the worst witch there ever was. Turns out that even though Im not Japanese, I did have hair like her as a teenager. So they kept calling me Yoko at school Then I grew up and had a life and thats when he was killed. Got me all angry again, WHY kill him?? Well last night opened my eyes on what he was.....a human being and not some GOD!! Quite an eye opener for me and now its like I feel as if I was cheated all those years. I thought he was this cute, funny guy. He was messed up and had this HUGE chip on his back about his parents. Not that I can blame him. He went with his mom and she left him with his auntie Mimi and he didnt see his dad for 17 years. I think thats plenty to screw up someone's mind!! He was a bloke who was suffering inside!! Did you see that movie last night? What do you know of John Lennon, does the fantasy fit the reality??
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@sid556 (30973)
• United States
25 Nov 10
Hi Magic, I was a Beatles fan from the time I was 6 yrs old and first saw them on the Ed Sullivan show. I've read countless books on them. I collected all their memorabilia and Fan mags which I later learned were completely all about the publicity. I did know that John had a messed up childhood and was no saint. I knew that he could be a jerk. So could Paul. None were without their faults. I did get angry too when John hooked up with Yoko but that was because of my age at the time and he had a little son and a wife. Back then, divorce was not as common as it is now. As time went on and I got older I came to respect the messages he sent in his writing. He really was a brilliant guy. I don't think I ever felt he was anything other than what he was. I was one of those that thought Paul was the greatest and I used to practice fainting just in case I got lucky enough to see them in person. By the time I was a teen ....saw that for what it was also. I missed the movie but from all I've read, Paul and John were not very nice to each other and neither of them were very nice to George and Ringo.
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@sid556 (30973)
• United States
26 Nov 10
I meant to add that I came to see John as the most talented and smartest one of all 4. My infatuation with Paul faded as I got older. George was also brilliant and didn't get the recognition that he deserved when they were still together. You were so lucky to even get that close to them. What I would have given!
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• Canada
26 Nov 10
I feel the same about George. I must admit I never liked Paul lol... I wish I could have been even closer to John but it wasnt meant to be!! They were very talented together as a group and John proved that he must have been the most talented with all the songs he did on his own after. I havent seen a group so diversified and creative since!! Thanks for adding that!
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• Canada
25 Nov 10
OMG......I remember seeing them on Ed Sullivan. I was just a kid also but even at that young age, I was in love with John. There wouldnt have been any problems between us since you were more into Paul lol. I nearly saw him when he came to Montreal for the bed-in but when I was at the airport, someone told us to go one way and he was to come out the other way. I should have listened to my dad who worked there. He saw him and got an autograph for me . I must have cried for a week because I missed him. I was just too young for my parents to let me go in town to try and glance at him at the Hotel. Dad said he was very nice and joked a lot. Im happy for him that he could find peace at the end of his life. Thanks!!
@KrauseHome (36586)
• United States
18 Oct 11
Personally the life he lived growing up is what made him when he was older, and to be able to take his rough childhood and turn it into something else was great for sure. I know that there are many people over time that others will admire and such but if they really knew they would be amazed. So many times we think they hide behind Pink colored glasses are everything is always ok. But when we ever find out all about them it stuns us and amazes us and many times changes our perceptions as well. But we need to remember, they are only human like us.
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• Canada
24 Oct 11
You're right. I had John on a pedestal ever since they came out. I forgot these people are only humans like us. We makes mistakes, so do they. I concentrate on the music now and not the private life of someone.
@ahs1987 (32)
6 Jan 11
John lennon wasnt mean or anythin he was just different and found it difficult to adjust with the normal people , but he was one of the greatest musicians this world has seen , nothing can take that away from home, as far his childhood is concerned you should watch this movie called Nowhere boy , its an excellent movie about john lennnons childhood, it shows how the whole band got together and stuff, and amazing movie for a beatles fan .
• Canada
10 Jan 11
Thanks for sharing this info. I'll try and watch it. I know he was a genius when it came to music and nothing can take this away from him. As for his "bad" side.....it happens that I watched a movie that might not have been truthful and the actor playing him might not have been the right choice. I saw another movie after and it explained it much better. Thanks for replying!
• Philippines
9 Mar 11
John Lennon's childhood did not go very well. Its effect to him while growing up is so huge. Many sees him as a tough guy but I believe no one can really understand his pain. Although John's relationship with God is not sure, He is still fair to him. John may had a bad childhood but the world loves him until now.
• Canada
2 May 11
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Yes sounds like John had a very rough childhood and it has to leave an imprint on the rest of his life. Yes the world loves him and I shouldnt have watched that movie. Im sure it wasnt true to the facts. Thanks for sharing!
@mrgpk63 (444)
• United States
15 Apr 11
John Lennon was a Good Man and He had his Beliefs in Peace. Not a Fantasy Figure just the Leader of One of The Worlds Greatest Rock Bands. Just One of the Fab Four that Wrote Awesome Songs. He had a Bad Up bringing and that wasn't His Fault. You can have Doubts about His Parents but Find Inner Peace Inside in Time. It makes Him the Same Man if We Find Out He had Problems or Not. He was an Entertainer, Musician and a Rock Star. His Personal Life isn't Our Business but the Media Blasts All the Information on TV. When it Shouldn't but it Wrongly does
• Canada
2 May 11
You're right. We shouldnt poke our noses in his private life and I feel sorry I watched that movie!! He was a human being with his good sides and his bad sides like all of us. Thanks for replying!!
• Glasgow, Scotland
16 Mar 11
John Lennon was a man who spoke of 'peace' but he probably wasn't capable of it within himself. That may seem to be rather contradictory, but perhaps it was the inner turmoil that led him to his belief that peace was the best way. One, after all, can really only know a possible solution to a problem if they know what the problem is, and John Lennon certainly had his problems. There are plenty of incidents in John Lennon's live that would prove that he wasn't a 'nice guy', but he still managed to do more than most in showing the world a 'better way' through the lyrics to some of his songs - and for that we should be grateful. :)
• Canada
2 May 11
Sorry it took me so long to reply. I never thought of this about him wanting peace but not able to achieve it in his life or his mind!!!! So true!! Of course we have the legacy he left with his songs. Thanks for replying!
@marty3888 (2357)
• Acme, Michigan
26 Nov 10
No I didn't. I saw one on him on rthe history Channel, the same channel as the Beatles on record. All I know is, He hadf in the past, come out with solo stuff I rfeally didn't like. Then, he came out with that album with the song "Just like starting over" and it was the best stuff from him in a long time. And right after that, he gets killed.That's what made me mad. The special I saw talked about how he got involved with that "free John Sinclair" thing. John was definitly outspoken. Remember, he the one that made the statement the4 beatles are more popular than Jesus Christ.
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• Canada
26 Nov 10
Thats the one I saw about with the "Sinclair" thing. I saw one before that and they had an actor portraying John and I didnt like that one at all. Yes they do mention that John thought they were more popular than JC. In the first movie, they show "John" telling someone he thinks of himself as JC and then they show him trying to walk on water on his pool....Of course he was very stoned in those days. Thanks!
@savypat (20217)
• United States
22 Nov 10
He was a human being with a wonderful talent which many of us enjoyed. What I enjoyed the most was the way his songs touched the reality of my own life. Times were so troubled then and as a young adult I was aware of the blinders coming off in America. Until that time we felt that any war we were involved in was for the good of the world, but we soon learned that our wars were just the same as other country's. Full of greed, fear and the worse of human actions. John's songs help us see some of this and deal with the emotions. As with all life each of us lives until we have finished our purpose and then we move on to the next one, if I didn't believe this the world would be a much darker place for me.
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• Canada
22 Nov 10
I vaguely remember the war back then. I know a lot were against it, some Americans came here to hide but I was too young to understand what it was all about. I do today and its still true today. Yes when our time is done, we move on.........sometimes its way too soon!! Thanks!!
• Philippines
22 Nov 10
I love John Lennon -- his genius and his imperfections. He is human and he is not ashamed to show his humanity be it in his songs and in his private life which was subject to constant scrutiny. Try to look at it this way. John Lennon had immense musical songwriting talent that he shared to the rest of the world. We were touched in different ways by his songs. And to this day, no one comes that close with the influence he left in the music industry. This is what we love about John Lennon. This is what mattered to me ever since.
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• Canada
22 Nov 10
You're right about that, he was a musical genius. I was listening to their songs last week and its unbelievable how none of their songs sound alike. Today, you can tell who's singing because they have the same genre of music......not the Beatles. I didnt like Paul as a kid and still dont, to me he sounded fake and still does lol. Yes John was human. I think I felt this way after watching the movie only because to me he was nearly GOD!! They say part 2 will play tonight, I'll make sure to watch it!! Thanks!
@Jamie322 (12)
• United States
23 Nov 10
I watched the PBS special last night that you're talking about and I'm so glad I did. I was born in 1983, so I never got a chance to know what it was like while he was here. But I always admired him as an artist. I grew up listening to the Beatles' and John's music because my parents loved it. But I always felt bad that I didn't know very much about John Lennon as a person. So I was so glad to get to see that program about him last night. I'd never thought that much about his relationship with Yoko until I watched it. That's when I found out just how much he really loved her and that she loved him just as strongly. It seemed they loved each other more than most people could understand. He had such a hard time when he couldn't be with her, so I'm glad they did end up getting back together. And then they had Sean together and the program showed this side of him as a father that I never would have known about. I did think it was sad that he couldn't have that same kind of relationship with his first son. It seems Julian got short-changed a little. But I wouldn't say that was John's fault at all. Over-all, I'm really grateful that we were given a peak into more of who he really was and what his life was like. It made me come to admire him even more than I did before.
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• Canada
23 Nov 10
You watched another special last night. The one I watches the night before was NOT John in the movie but an actor and I think that actor looked very angry and thats why I felt like that when I watched it. I missed the beginning of the one last night but Im sure it'll play again. You're right, I too didnt like Yoko that much but it sounds like she was the love of his life. I cried at the end, just when he was getting ready to go for a world tour....what a waste!! Its too bad you were born too late, it was great, the music, the movies, oh how I miss it all. Make sure you watch all their movies also. Thanks!!
• United States
1 Dec 10
John was a human being... not God in the first place. Of course he's made mistakes in his life. His first son never really got to see him much and there are interviews from Sean Lennon saying he was very angry at his father for not being there that much.. but it's life.. John made choices.. everyone else makes choices..and life goes on.
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• Canada
6 Dec 10
Yes you're right, I understood more of him with the second show on PBS. He has problems because his father left him and he repeated the story with his son who might be having problems now also. Yes we all make mistakes!! Thanks!