Men usually support most of the expenses, isn't that cruel?
By Suggar
@Suggar (3606)
Bulgaria
November 22, 2010 8:29am CST
Hello friends, i just realized something when i was answering another discussion. It was discussion about the money and who is working at home - wife or husband.
Now i'm thinking about life in general. It's kind of old view that men must support the expenses of one family, the expenses around the kids, around the home, everything.
As i wrote in the other discussion, at home both of us work - me and my boyfriend. Sometimes i'm doing some more money than him and i can understand how cruel is that for my boyfriend. I can understand how he feels when he has no opportunity to make enough money and to make true all my wishes. May be that's killing him, that i have to work so many hours for our happiness. On the other hand, i can feel the responsibility of the unpaid bills. I feel so guilty when i don't work, like i'm wasting my time with not so important things, at the same time my boyfriend with his kidney stones and pains all the time, has no chance to find good paid work out of home, because he is always in pain. When we can't pay something i time, i feel like - why i had to do this and the other thing, i just had to sit on my *something and to do some money.
Life is builded really cruel for the men. Most of the women want their husbands to be able to do a lot of money and to support women's wishes, to make presents, to support their home, kids, food and everything. At the same time we want help for the home work we do, may be little help, but still some help ... And i can understand why men are so stressed and tired present days. We all expect something from them, by default. But actually whole the world is in bad situation with the money and sometimes our men may be blame themselves because of that...
What do you think about that? 

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13 responses
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
22 Nov 10
I think that is true, but is slowly changing. Men were responsible by default to take care of thier familys by default. Women were responsible to keeping the house clean, and raising the children.
You can still see this is todays society, however I think things are really starting to change. Women are graduating high school, going on to Collage and having great careers. More women are working alongside thier husbands in todays society then ever before, and I think that is going to increase in the future.
I personally am a stay at home mom. My husband works and provides for our family. So we have taken the stereotypical gender roles. However, we both agree that we dont want our kids in day care all day being raised by other people, so for us this is the best choice. Once our kids are more grown there is a very good possibility I will find a job, I do have a collage diploma. I may even try to open my own store online from home to make some extra money on top of my husbands salary. Right now my son is 9 months and very demanding though, but within the next year he will become alot more independant and I will have more time to myslef, which I may use to work from home, and online.
I do think men feel stress and pressure to provide for thier families, but women feel pressure to do a great job with the house and children. I think a certain amount of pressure is ok and even healthy for a person, it keeps them moving in the right direction.
Also my husband does not worry about giving me gifts or things like that. Maybe if we didnt have kids? But as long as the kids have what they need and our bills are paid I feel blessed and I would rather his time, then things that he can give me!
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
That's great, that you have little kids. I love kids, they are so blessed and so nice. We don't have kids, but life is still not so good for us, i imagine if we had kids, what would it be.
But actually i was not talking about women like you. I was talking about women who really love material world and it's hard for them to understand how hard is for our men to try to make us happy.
I think that you are amazing person, if you appreciate what your husband is doing for you and your own family you got there. I

I think that you are amazing person, if you appreciate what your husband is doing for you and your own family you got there. I
@kayla_7602 (704)
• Canada
22 Nov 10
I think that you and your huband will be great, every relationship has hard time, it tests your relationship and makes you love each other all the more. I think it is good for a person to have to struggle a little bit, it gives you drive to work together to figure things out and makes you appreciate all the things you have even more. We started with nothing, and struggling...some times we couldnt pay our bills or had a hard time buying the food we needed. But we worked through it together and now we are still not great financially but we have food a home and all we need. I think not having everything in the begining makes us appreciate al that we have now so much more!
@theDeranged (96)
• Canada
22 Nov 10
I think this attitude is slowly changing. In some cultures. Here in "Canadian" culture, women are expected to work and help support the family. And yet, when it comes time to have children, both women and the men often take paid leave (maternity and paternity) from work in order to be home for the child during the first two years. It is also becoming more acceptable for the man to stay home and play home-maker if the woman makes more money than he does.
I think the idea of male responsibility and the subsequent stress involved is a personal choice nowadays, not a societal one... in some cultures, at least. For many families I know, the man makes more money than the woman does. So to be fair, the man pays out more than the woman does. In one household I know, the woman makes more money so she pays the bulk of the expenses, and that is fine with her husband. In another household I know, the woman makes half of what he does, so he pays ALL the expenses and she puts her money into a retirement account for them. All these situations work for the people involved, and I think that is what is important. Not how society, or other people, feel about their arrangement.
I, like your boyfriend, have health issues that make it difficult for me to work in a normal setting. Because of this, I am trying to find a way to work from home. However, until this happens, I will continue to do what I have to do to to bring in an income. I don't think there is any need for you to feel guilty about working from home... unless there is a way that he can take your job and you go work long-hours outside the home. Or, if you can handle a part-time job outside the home while handling your home-based job, in order to take some of the stress off of him.
In the end, it's what works for you guys. If he is having issues working so hard while you stay at home, that is something that you guys need to discuss and work around. If you guys can't come to an agreement, then maybe you just aren't a good enough match?
I do have to ask: what if you weren't with him? Would he have to work just as hard as he does now? If the answer to that is: yes, he would have to work just as hard, then I don't see where the issue is. It's not like you are a burden on him. If the answer is no, he would NOT have to work as hard if he wasn't with you, then you ARE a burden on him. And you should get another job. One partner should never be a burden on the other when there is no medical cause for it. That is why he's called a partner. Not a care-giver. To reiterate: if the man or woman would have to work just as hard regardless, then it shouldn't matter what the other partner is doing. Of course, if BOTH partners are working just as hard, you have better potential for moving up in this world.
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@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Hello friend, first i want to say that i just like canadians.
I mean that you, canadians, are so great people, i know few and they are so amazing humans.
If i was not with him, i don't know what would it be, he has a lot of problems with bank credits he took, because of his family. And now his family can't pay the credits, so we are worried all the time about that. Months ago i was able to do enough to pay his credits, but for now, i'm not, so ... you know.
We both are working hard. But for now, he has no really good opportunity to make as much, as is needed. I'm doing as much, as i can, same as him. But with me, it's different, because my earnings may grow day by day, but he works for a static payment every month.
I mean that you, canadians, are so great people, i know few and they are so amazing humans.
If i was not with him, i don't know what would it be, he has a lot of problems with bank credits he took, because of his family. And now his family can't pay the credits, so we are worried all the time about that. Months ago i was able to do enough to pay his credits, but for now, i'm not, so ... you know.
We both are working hard. But for now, he has no really good opportunity to make as much, as is needed. I'm doing as much, as i can, same as him. But with me, it's different, because my earnings may grow day by day, but he works for a static payment every month. @reckon21 (3477)
• Philippines
23 Nov 10
How about my sister friends. My sister is a public school teacher and she has a close friend who is married and has three male children. The husband is not working and is the one who is always in the house doing all the household chores. My sister pity her friend because she can feel her struggle and her sadness.
To be honest it's not easy to be the head of the family when all the expenses will be put upon your shoulder all the time. I think both husband and wife should share the burden when it comes to financial aspect of the family.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
23 Nov 10
I think that's fear, when the expenses are paid from both of the people. If the payment of the wife/husband is enough for the expenses (which can be true only in one ideal world), the other money can go in bank account and to stay there, until this money are needed for something important.
I'm ready to work hard and to do much more money, if i know that some part of the money will go somewhere, where the money will be saved, because nobody knows what will happen in future.
We all hope for better life, but it doesn't depends only on us.
We all hope for better life, but it doesn't depends only on us. @sweetloveforeve (13116)
• Portugal
22 Nov 10
i agree with you. i dont think that should be guys always supporting the expenses. is good that you and your bf both of you work to take the expenses. im sorry that he feels bad that his work only isnt enough for you to live happy. but is good that you are able to help him^^ if you ever feel a bit bad with the bills message me and i will tell you a site that pays 10 dollars a day if you do the work well^^ but need to be some hours online 


@sweetloveforeve (13116)
• Portugal
22 Nov 10
yes i understand you suggar^^ you want to find a job outside home is it? well you can find in call center i guess^^ many call centers are always calling people. about me i really want to work online bcs at least i have peace and can work at my own rythm that is really good for me^^ thats why im always trying to find good sites that really pay and that can help so many people to earn money without work so many many hours.

@toniganzon (77310)
• Philippines
23 Nov 10
My husband still goes to school to get his second degree which would help us build a better future. So now I'm earning for all of our expenses and this has been going on for the past 6 years of our married life. Money has never been an issue in our part and we're very supportive of each other.
Some people might find it strange and some people might think badly of my husband, but we don't see anything wrong with it and our family is just doing fine.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
23 Nov 10
Hello Toniganzon,
i think that's normal if you take it normal. If you feel find paying everything, there is no problem. You are the one who live with your husband. It's great that he is doing something, which will help him for the future, so i hope he will feel great when he finish his classes and make his own money.
Long ago i was with a guy, who could support all my needs. I was not married. We were in relationship, we traveled a lot with him. But i didn't allow him to buy me stuff, i don't know why. Still loved him really much, but wanted to be independent, to have that chance, if some day i want to make some change for my life, to feel free to do it.
@Xansus (946)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Well life is cruel .
Yes men think the support of the expenses in the family for their job ? what else can a man do for the family , we are not good with cleaning and taking care of babies , so whats left for us , if we cant do even that what are we for the family - a burden maybe ? [ Ofcors there are men that enjoy cleaning and taking care of the babies , but they are 1/50 so we talk general ]
Its even more bad if you have health problems that stay in your path, you feel more useless and even more of a burden .
Its not a bad thing for woman to work but that money to come as bonus not the family not to take all care of the bills and living .
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Hello friend, i think that men can be great at everything, as women can be great doing everything, they like and want to do. This is my opinion, i'm not sure all people think so, but i know that my man can make a great potatoes salad, also can fry really tasty eggs, can make great pancakes and when i am at home (where my parents live) for some days and when i'm back here, i can see that the apartment is so clean as it was when i left it. So my man can do great work at home. He is also creative and gentle and nice, and i'm really sorry that he has no better opportunity than working at home. But i think that men are able to do everything they want and they are good enough, as we are, if they want to be good enough. 

@Xansus (946)
• Bulgaria
23 Nov 10
Well i was talking overall .
I like cooking and trying some new stuff at it too .
Yes house working is not bad if you want to do it but i hate it :P its not for me .
Don't know i clean but i don't like it at all :)
Well maybe i grown in such family , my mother is just clean lover and flower person :P
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
22 Nov 10
Hi Suggar,
It is really difficult to demolish te age old tradition. Men have been the food and shelter providers all through the ages. And that women are earning now is not a very old happening. Prior to that it was all men who would do all possible things to bear expenses for the family. If he failed the family perished.
The same is there even today. And that if the woman earns more there is nothing that the male counterpart should feel bad about. If this be the case there is something wrong with the male.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
I'm thinking ... guys has their ego, they are proud when they can make a woman feel happy and free. Here we are watching a lot of young and rich guys, driving luxury cars, living in luxury apartments. May be this is the reason our men feel little ... ashamed when they can't take so great care about the women.
Sometimes i tell my boyfriend - there is nothing wrong in us, don't worry. I'm making as much as i can and the money are ours, you are making as much, as you can and the money are ours...
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
22 Nov 10
Hello Suggar,
About kidney stones, there is a way to pass them and it makes it less painful.
My hubby had 5 of them and the first time, I thought he was going to die he was in SUCH pain and he's not one to complain.
He had many apparently and as the doctor explained, most stones have sharp edges and thats what hurts.
I found something that made him pass his stones and not damage the inside as they go thru the tiny tubes.
I use marshmallow roots and parsley. The marshmallow roots helps to coat the inside so that when the stone moves around, it slips out easier. The parsley helps in the process of elimination.
It works so well that the third stone was HUGE and the doctor said it might not pass through or would do a lot of damage. He told hubby to go sitting down as he might faint when it comes out. Well I made my special juice for him and everytime he had some pain (meaning it was moving around) he would jump on a small trampoline we bought just for that. In a few days, the stone came out. It didnt hurt and he didnt bleed. The doctor couldnt believe it.
If you want to try my recipe add me as a friend and PM me and I'll send it to you.
Now as for women staying home and having the husband work and pay for it all. I had that dream when I was a kid but it soon went away with the price of everything. Now nearly all couples both work as its too expensive.
Have a nice day!
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Hello Magical Bubbles, thanks about the tip for the kidney stones. My boyfriend doesn't eat spices and long ago they tried to use a tea of parsley, so he hate the taste really much. I've heard about people, who had same experience with parsley, they had the same oxalate stones in their kidneys and the parsley tea helped them to throw the stones out. But for the marshmallow i never knew it could help. I'll add you for friend just now and will ask for the recipe, because i can't watch him in pains, that way, he is now.
@Andyvil (793)
• Philippines
22 Nov 10
I think it is probably because women are the ones who give birth to babies and during those period of pregnancy women are more fragile and should be taken cared. I don't think its cruel for us guys to carry some of the burden since we also can't carry some of the burden women endure in life. I think we all have our roles to play and what really matters is that each of us do our part and support each other when one is in difficult situation.

@sjlskl (3382)
• Singapore
22 Nov 10
While this is true, things are changing nowadays. With prices escalating, it is almost impossible to support a whole family with just one source of income. So the females are also now coming out to work to support the family. But this kind of arrangement, there is an underlying problems which I will leave it till another day.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Actually i think it's good the the women to work...
That's how they show themselves that they CAN
But i've heard from girls, it's not good when a woman is better paid than a man. That way the man feels like ... ashamed of that he can't be a good head of the family. I think it's not true. Nowadays life is so hard, we need to put all our power to work together and to handle the situation, never mind who earns the money.
That's how they show themselves that they CAN
But i've heard from girls, it's not good when a woman is better paid than a man. That way the man feels like ... ashamed of that he can't be a good head of the family. I think it's not true. Nowadays life is so hard, we need to put all our power to work together and to handle the situation, never mind who earns the money. @PDBME2 (1014)
• United States
22 Nov 10
I had a family communication class that mentioned something about men feeling good or better when they could support their households. I stay at home and my husband works but let me tell you that I don't expect these fancy things in life. He feels so much better about himself when he knows he can support all of the things we need in life. I try my best to budget that money to make it last. I really thank God that he puts it in both of us to make do with what we have. We also have 5 kids to raise. I have thought many times about working but there is always something that would make either one of us have to give up time to be there for the kids. For now we depend on God to get us through and help us make wise decisions.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Hello friend, i can tell you that i'm modest girl and i don't need too much in life. But sometimes we don't have money even for food, what about something else ...
We don't make gifts to each other, we don't go to restaurants, we don't go out for a coffee, because when you sit in a coffee shop, there coffee has the modest price of 2$ and at home for 2$ you can buy all package of coffee.
So i don't want much, but there are facts in life which are easy to be seeing. There is no need something special to happen, when your daily plans are ruining because you don't have money, this is when men are feeling bad, for me. And our daily plans are always different, because we never know how what will be the next day.
So i don't want much, but there are facts in life which are easy to be seeing. There is no need something special to happen, when your daily plans are ruining because you don't have money, this is when men are feeling bad, for me. And our daily plans are always different, because we never know how what will be the next day. @mhypie03 (683)
• Philippines
23 Nov 10
It is a fact my dear friend that men should keep up with the family's daily expenses. That is why they were called head of the family. Their roles specifically is to provide, protect and pro-create. There's nothing cruel about it because we could also understand the pain of having a baby in your womb for nine months, the risk of giving birth and having to take care of the entire household everday. It's actually a balanced life. Working 8 hours a day plus quite a few times of overtime to add up in a day is just the same of cleaning the house, preparing meals, watching over your children, washing the dishes, clothes and so on the list. However, being a girl myself who works and earns more than bf my does, it has been discretion to keep up with his needs he can't really meet for I know he has tried but luck has not found its way on him. But I know later on in life if we get to be one family, the heavens will work for the both of us so he could take the lead while following him.
@gorgeoustill (66)
• Philippines
22 Nov 10
The world has indeed changed a lot. Men and women have equal responsibilities now although in a biblical sense GOD gave that role to men because of a curse way back Adam and Eve's time. Yet, Men aren't the only one who was cursed to responsibility, Women are ordained to be child bearers and caregivers. Doesn't women feel worse when they have miscarriage or when they lost a child due to sickness or by just not being there when there's a PTA meeting for their child. They DO. It is because it is their responsibility to take care of their children. Sure it's the husband's to, but as the norm and as the bible says, It is on the women's hands, so it's not that bad of a thing that your boyfriend feels helpless. It's his responsibility and its normal, at least he feels concern not being able to fullfill his job, he seems like a great guy unlike other guys who doesn't care at all.
@Suggar (3606)
• Bulgaria
22 Nov 10
Hello friend, if i have to be honest i believe in God strongly. But i think that norms of the Bible are written in other days, when people lived much different than now. We can translate the laws of the Bible and the words of the Bible with using nowadays words and put things on their places, just the way the world is now.














