Attacking Anyones Faith-Why????
By jujunme
@jujunme (2501)
United States
December 22, 2010 1:09pm CST
I've seen it too many times here and as much as this is the case, i still don't understand why people find it necessary to do this. Why do certain people care what i or anyone else believe in? if it's for the purpose of thinking that somehow attacking someones faith or belief system can be changed by attacking them , then i would say, it's a complete waste of time and effort, since faith is a very personal and time honored belief and in a lot of cases, very deeply felt.Plus, since when is calling someone "blnd" or "ridiculous", for what they believe in accomplished anything,but cause anger and resentment in those who are being attacked.? I may not agree with many religious affiliations or in what some people choose to believe in,but, i would neither attack or make light of anyones faith or religion,since what others choose to believe has no ill effect on me and i don't see why it should have on anyone else.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
22 Dec 10
Because too many people think that you can't say "I'm right" without continuing with "You're wrong". And to prove they are wrong, they somehow think they have to go on the attack.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
27 Dec 10
That's true too, but in things of faith, proof isn't always necessary... unless of course, you're trying to "prove" someone else's faith wrong. :~D
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Actualy my previous comment was geared toward non believers who not only don't believe in God, but will also make statements that God does not exist as if they were facts.So, yes my comment was made for those who wat to prove "someone elses faith wrong"
@rabblerouser (136)
• South Africa
25 Dec 10
Hi
Sorry to say this, we have to remember , religion is nothing but a glorified opinion or an idea ...it is imposed by parents on their children , we are not born believing in god or something .....we are taught to turn fiction into faith backed up faulty logic , we need to guard against this ....
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Yes, but children grow up and learn to make their own decisions and when they do, whatever they choose to believe should be respected, even if in your opinion, it's based on a "glorified opinion"Also, i disagree when you say we are "taught to turn fiction into faith".No one can teach "faith or force someone to be faithful. Someone may attempt to teach me about God, but no one can force me to hold on to that belief and continue to have faith that my beliefs are valid.organized religion is one thing but, in my opinion belief and trust in God is a whole other ballgame,but if anyone thinks that by ridiculing or belittling someone elses religion or faith,they are getting anywhere or changing anything, they are sorely mistaken.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
6 Feb 11
We may me taught about religion and God as children but in order to hold on to those beliefs into adulthood, one needs further reinforcement and further understanding to be able to hold on to those beliefs.and the same applys to what religions teach us.Life experience and your own personal journey is the deciding factor as to whether or not you will hold on to beliefs you may have been taught and what better example of this is there than the atheist, who in many cases are also taught to beleive in God and yet, when they grow older for whatever reasons, they dismiss the very idea that God exists at all.
As children we're taught many things in this life and by many people, whether or not we choose to use what we've learned as adults with minds and thoughts of or own is strictly up to us.And as far as God is concerned, faith and trust cannot be taught to anyone.
@rabblerouser (136)
• South Africa
23 Jan 11
Hi ...what is your definition of god ......and when kids don't have answers do they automatically call out to god [if they have not been taught about it] .....we come into the world ignorant of such concepts , we are taught it , if you think in terms of a god in the western terms then its religion which ever way you look at it ...you are following the basic tenants of the religious but if its spiritual and based on something thats more learned then it be more easy to understand , its something to discover , to nurture ,,,,,,then there is no misunderstanding .
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
25 Apr 11
I have no problem with anyone asking me about my beliefs as long as i know they're asking for the right reasons, such as wanting to lean more about different beliefs and faiths. my problem is with those who do ask and no matter what they're told they find a way to try and discredit or ridicule anything anyone may offer, which tells me all they were doing is looking for an excuse to do just that.
@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
22 Dec 10
We care about what others believe as religions impose a lot of rules even on those who don't believe in a religion. Children are not being given the choice whether or not to believe, it's just imposed on them: 'If you don't believe we'll throw you out'
If I was to decide I would forbid all religions. Religions have been given enough chances in society and every time it shows there's no possibility for them to leave non-believers alone.
@diamania (7011)
• Netherlands
22 Dec 10
What I wanted to add is, I would never attack anyone unless I am attacked by people imposing all kinds of things on me or just not accepted because I don't believe. These are the only two reasons that justify defensive attacks.
For example I had a girlfriend and she and her parents wouldn't accept me being atheist so I told her to get the heck out of my life. It's not a good thing to have such people around.
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@jujunme (2501)
• United States
22 Dec 10
"Defensive attacks" and attacks made for no other reason than to ridicule or make lght of someones belief system are 2 dfferent things.so, i do agree and would also defend my beliefs to anyone who for no apparent reason feels the need to attack them. I also agree that religion has caused more dissent and problems than it's worth and although i do beleive in God, i do not belong to any particular religion and though my parents were both Catholic , they did not force their religious beliefs on me, i simply respected their religious faith and then when i was old enough to choose for myself and understand what some religions were about i chose to simply believe in God without the dogma, rituals and restrictions many religions impose on others.This is "my" choice and i have the same respect for anyone who thinks or believes differently and would hope others would as well, but form what i see, the battle goes on.
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
23 Dec 10
I agree with you. What you believe in is your personal matter, and it shouldn't be bothered by those nosy and religious people who always say their belief is authentic, and their belief is the most honorable way. It was just all bull. It is your heart and your personality make who you are. Religion only guide you.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Dec 10
i agree and that goes both ways. non believers will also criticize believers thinking they know the "truth" and should be listened to and agreed with. in my opinion, i don't understand this either.Since everyone has the right to believe what they choose and no one should try and force their opinions on anyone else and then get angry when this just doesn't happen. Faith of the heart, is something that can't be changed by someone elses opinion.
@crisdel12 (78)
• Philippines
24 Dec 10
Hi jujunme. You're absolutely correct. Respect is the keyword. I do consider myself as a religious person. The only reason I talk about my faith is when people ask me questions about my belief. I have friends around me who belongs to different religions some are muslims, some believes in buddhism, and others are atheist. It is amazing though that we get along very well. I realized that it is because we respect each other.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
24 Dec 10
I believe many people of all faiths and religions can and do learn to get along, but, i also believe there are those who for whatever reason, find it necessary to criticize ones religion or belief system, strictly because they don't understand or even try to understand anyones beliefs except their own. and this goes for believer's and non believer's alike.it just makes no senseto me, how far some people will go to prove their point, never realizing how personal and heartfelt ones belief system is and should not to be disrespected in any way.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
26 Dec 10
My discussion was not so much about religion in general,but about personal faith and belief in God which can be 2 different thing and why some people feel the need to crtiticize or belittle someone for their belief system .Being a Christian i believe there is only one God and that's where my break with religion begins and ends, since i do agree how organized religion can and does cause dissent and separation, with the same people they wish to join together. God's given me the freedom of choice whether to believe his word or not, i choose to believe and i epxect that choice to be respected just as i respect those who disagree with me.
@rabblerouser (136)
• South Africa
25 Dec 10
I am against religion because it creates division , it leads to wastefulness ...we can preach tolerance but how can people accept to tolerate something that comes from a faulty premise in the first place .....its a simple numbers game, in religion its how many followers they can get ,its about supremacy and control ....I cannot tolerate that ...maybe some people can
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Dec 10
hi jujnme yes I have seen this over and over and have been told here that what I believe in is hooey and I want to say if you are a real Christian you would practice what Christ taught. Do UntOTHES AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU.So leave us to practice our own religions as Christ would have us and let others practice as they believe.We all here in mylot have a ri ght to practice and believe in our own religions. they are so personal we should not have to be told to respect each other and each other's beliefs.REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RU LE. Our religions belong to us, and are not up to others to try and change us. Leave US ALONE.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Dec 10
"and have been told that what i believe is hooey"/ incredible!, people will comment like that and then expect those of us who disagree to respect what they say. They act like they're the "authority" on the truth and anyone else who believes differently is ignorant.if these people are out to change what others hold as a persoal faith , they are barking up the wrong tree and they certainly can't do it by insulting or ridiculing anyones beliefs.They need to go on thier merry little way believing whatever they choose and in turn as you say"leave us alone"
@bird123 (10632)
• United States
22 Dec 10
Maybe deep down all mankind seeks the real truth. What better way than through interaction? Attack is a strong word. I guess many do this for themselves to prove to themselves that they are better or smarter than others. Perhaps, it's all just about being right. Don't we all love to be right??? God gave the world so many different views to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. So many times the key to real understanding comes with interaction. We should never allow drama to prevent our interaction. Interaction is what God wants. It is part of the journey to discover the real truth. Embrace that. Smooth the path with your love and kindness.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Dec 10
i'm all for interaction and believe all religions and faiths should share their experiences and belefs with others. but, too often there are those who for whatever reason,feel the need to criticize and ridicule, just because someone doesn't agree with them. This is not interaction and not what God intended at all. it's one thing to have an opposite opinion, it's quite another when you are told you are "wrong" or "ignorant" to believe what you do. How do you interact with people like this? i say you can't and shouldn't even try.Someone may be "smarter" than someone else and believe they are "better"but,when those who feel the need to prove this by ridicule,are doing just the opposite of those things.
@RebeccaScarlett (2532)
• Canada
22 Dec 10
My beliefs are attacked all the time. I believe there is no intelligent being who created the universe and watches over us. I admit that I could be wrong. I am attacked as though my beliefs don't matter. It's not that I don't believe in a god, it's that I believe there is none. There is a difference, though many people don't see it.
I have no wish to fight with anyone or convert anyone. I enjoy rigorous debates on the subject of religion, and it is possible to have them with personal attacks left out.
I can promise that you will never see me calling anyone "stupid," no matter what they believe. You may see me criticize the things people have done in the name of religion, or some of the things religions teach, but I'm not out to make anyone feel bad for a personal belief they hold, provided they are not using that belief as an excuse to hurt or mistreat others.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
22 Dec 10
I have no less tolerance or understanding for people who attack believers than i do for those who feel the need to attack atheists. it just makes no sense to me but, people do it all the time.The only times i will defend my beliefs, is when anyone attacks or ridicules what i choose to believe in, but i don't do it in a way that belttles or makes fun of their particular belief system. You, for instance are someone who doesn't believe there is a God,but you are also not attacking those who do and i respect that.Atheists as well as believers are made to look "bad" due to those, who on both sides of the coin,feel the need to ridicule and make fun of us.You are not among these and that's the way it should be.
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@terryt52 (243)
• United States
22 Dec 10
I am very religious. I raised my children in my faith. When they turned 14 years of age I no longer requested the attend church weekly. My younger son does not have a religion and if you do broach the subject we are adults and every one is entitled to their beliefs and choice or religion or not. I have attended many different churches and I enjoy all kinds of religion so my point being is every one is entitled to their belief's with out being attacked. God Bless
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Dec 10
Even though, as you mention, you are a very relgious person and yet you did not force your beliefs on your children which is very commendable, since i beleve we should allow others to find their own way and that includes our children and whoever else as well.i just wish others would understand how personal faith and trust in God truly is and understand they can't change this fact and especially not by criticizm or ridicule.
@evelyntree (88)
• Indonesia
23 Dec 10
well, as christian, we believe in Jesus Christ. others maybe believe in gods etc. everyone has their own beliefs. however, in my belief, the only way to be saved is through Jesus Christ. because we care about other people and we want that everyone be saved, we usually preaching gospel to others. it is not an attack actually. if people we preach don't want to believe in Jesus Christ then we can't do anything. we just spreading the gospel to others so that we do not have a gospel debt.
it just about what we believe.
@jujunme (2501)
• United States
23 Dec 10
it's fine to care about other people and we all should want everyone to be saved by the blood of Jesus because we believe he is the only way to salvation but, we don't have the right to criticize those who don't believe as we do. The same goes for non believers.There are atheists who will ask questions reagrding our belief in God and then when we explain this to them, they tend to ridicule what we are trying to tell them. Preaching to anyone who isn't open to others beleifs and faiths is useless , since some people ask just so they can try to prove us wrong.
