The leading cause of death among African Americans
By laglen
@laglen (19759)
United States
January 7, 2011 12:50pm CST
Abortion kills more African Americans than the seven leading causes of death in the United States. According to the CDC.
Wow
http://www.cnsnews.com/node/55956
Abortion killed at least 203,991 blacks in the 36 states and two cities (New York City and the District of Columbia) that reported abortions by race in 2005, according to the CDC. During that same year, according to the CDC, a total of 198,385 blacks nationwide died from heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide, and chronic lower respiratory diseases combined. These were the seven leading causes of death for black Americans that year.
Now before the pro choicers start citing reasons abortion is a great idea,
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html
Those are disturbing statistics.
This leads me to a comment made by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg
Justice Ginsburg: "Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae -- in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/16/AR2009071603485.html
wow. From the mouth of a SUPREME COURT JUSTICE amazing
So it appears that Roe v Wade was to control the black population in America - it seems it is working.
Now I have to ask, who is racist? Who is suppressing black Americans?
Bart Stupak claims Democrats want healthcare reform to fund abortion so there will be less people to cover
http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/03/13/bart-stupak-claims-democrats-want-healthcare-reform-to-fund-abortion-so-there-will-be-less-people-to-cover/
Nevermind death panels, at least these people had a chance to live. What about the lives that never were?
Do you agree that abortion is used for population control? Why or why not? How can African Americans after reading this POSSIBLY support the pro-choice agenda?
1 person likes this
7 responses
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
8 Jan 11
I think that is a variety of things and if you say that abortion is the leading cause of their deaths ,you make it a race issue and you say that it is all right to allow abortions among white people,but do not encourage abortions among the blacks.
That is why I am upset when I read about so much concern about blacks and yet there is who cares when the white population can no longer replace itself.
Another thing is the lifestyle and the tendency to get diabetes and heart condition because if your ancestors came from a continent where you had to run and fight to defend yourself and where it weekend feast or famine, you cannot eat what you like and be okay.
Also you have to ask, who is getting the abortions and the life they are following and get them to change their way of living.
Shame did work to keep us from sleeping around, from being the provided rather then the man, or one of us did make a mistake of repeating that.
These may be harsh, but would you not want four children born to a husband and wife rather then eight or.15 born among several women who shares the same baby's daddy?
2 people like this
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
7 Jan 11
Yes, I do think abortion is used for population control...by some, not necessarily the women who have chosen to have abortions. Their reasoning has little to do with population control and more to do with, "can I take care of a baby", "can I afford a baby"...the emphasis is on me, not the world/U.S./mom and/or dad. Why the h*ll they didn't think about that before having "fun", I'll never know.
You'd think with these kinds of statistics that right-wing extremists would be pro-choice...and maybe they are?
I have a "funny" stance on this issue. I'm pro choice, anti-abortion. In other words, I want a woman to have a choice, to include abortion, but by God I would hope it would be the very last choice, in extreme situations, etc. And, "I don't want to be a parent" or "I'm too young", doesn't count as "extreme situation".
What I'd really like to see is a return to morals, values, etc. I'm sick of seeing s*x, violence, etc. on TV, in magazines, in the movies, etc. and being glorified the way it is. Our kids don't have a chance. The youngest are even being targeted by the b.s.
I don't know what it's going to take to reverse course, but the way we're/the world is headed saddens me.
1 person likes this
@laglen (19759)
• United States
7 Jan 11
Thank you Hofferp, you just about echoed my thoughts on it. There are always alternatives. And when you look at it, there are so many people wanting babies that cant have them. I understand medical situations, in my opinion, thats different. However, if I were faced with that choice, I would choose to give life to the baby.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
7 Jan 11
I would also choose to give life to the baby, now, but I'm not sure what I would have done 40/50 years ago. I must say I was much more "liberal" on the issue in my 20s and 30s. But now in my 60s, I'm leaning more and more conservative on domestic/social issues than when I was younger. (I use to believe in rehabilitation, even welfare, but after decades of watching the programs put in place in the 60s and 70s fail, I've moved "right"...and I'm still moving in that direction with every failed program I see coming from the left.)
1 person likes this
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
8 Jan 11
I think that is a variety of things and if you say that abortion is the leading cause of their deaths ,you make it a race issue and you say that it is all right to allow abortions among white people,but do not encourage abortions among the blacks.
That is why I am upset when I read about so much concern about blacks and yet there is who cares when the white population can no longer replace itself.
Another thing is the lifestyle and the tendency to get diabetes and heart condition because if your ancestors came from a continent where you had to run and fight to defend yourself and where it weekend feast or famine, you cannot eat what you like and be okay.
Also you have to ask, who is getting the abortions and the life they are following and get them to change their way of living.
Shame did work to keep us from sleeping around, from being the provided rather then the man, or one of us did make a mistake of repeating that.
These may be harsh, but would you not want four children born to a husband and wife rather then eight or.15 born among several women who shares the same baby's daddy?
1 person likes this
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 Jan 11
Don't think for a second that this was an unintended side effect of giving people a "right to abortion". It was Ruth Ginsberg herself that said something to the effect of how abortion could be used to curb "unwanted populations". Clearly it's having just the effect that people like her wanted.
1 person likes this
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
8 Jan 11
"Now I have to ask, who is racist? Who is suppressing black Americans?"
Based on your information, that would be black Americans. Roe v. Wade upheld the ability of a woman to choose to have an abortion or give birth. If black Americans choose abortion over birth, that is their own choice.
A large social benefit to abortion is that it does control the population. It also keeps the welfare pool from swelling even greater than it already is. Frankly, I'm not sure what influences my pro-choice leanings more: the woman's right to choose, or my anti-welfare state sentiments.
1 person likes this
@Adoniah (7512)
• United States
8 Jan 11
You know anyone can start throwing numbers around and make something look really racist, even when its not. This is a really weird study to start with. If you go and look up abortion statistics, you will find that there are still more whites getting abortions than blacks and hispanics run a close second to blacks. "Other races" run a distant 4th. Roe vs Wade is not cutting the population of blacks or hispanics. It may be cutting the white population. More white folks tend to buy the morning after pill and that is not added into the statistics.
Now, I am totally against abortions and I find the numbers abominable.
@PDBME2 (1014)
• United States
7 Jan 11
I think that any girl or woman who finds out she is pregnant finds abortion as an easy route to escape the reality of becoming a parent. It really has nothing to do with anything except women going willingly to get rid of the baby. No one forces them but they go willingly.
1 person likes this
