Minnesota's Congresswoman Michele Bachmann's Intended SOTU Rebuttal
By gladys46
@gladys46 (1205)
United States
4 responses
@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Jan 11
I guess since she is leaning more and more with the outsiders in the tea party caucus (though she herself is what I consider an establishment republican), in a quasi "third party" fashion, she is seeking to rebut both the establishment republicans and democrats for said "third party". I wish the tea party endorsed candidates would just hurry up and leave the republican party (along with Ron Paul) and become Libertarian party members. Many of them have little in common with the republicans and as long as that ugly "R" still hangs on a chain around their neck, it will continue to be an albatross.
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@gladys46 (1205)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I can't remember if we've ever had such a rebutt the rebuttal situation before ... can you?
Anyway, would you say that Ms. Bachmann backs herself and the "tea partiers" into an even smaller corner, thereby splitting the republican party down its middle?
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Jan 11
As far as I know, there has never been a third party rebuttal to the speech. It would be a first, a necessary first to my thinking in fact.
I wouldn't say she backs them in to a corner or splits anything really, that's where they started out to begin with. I suspect they ran as republicans to get elected, since it is extremely rare that a third party gets elected. If they did switch parties, it would confirm my suspicions that this was actually the most ingenious coup by third party in U.S. history.
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@xfahctor (14113)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
23 Jan 11
I think it is more Bachman's attempt to caste herself as an "un-republican". She has gone out of her way to distance herself from the establishment and jump on the "outsider" bandwagon since the tea party groups became a real political force.
As far as her "armed and dangerous" tirade....meh, trivial.
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@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
23 Jan 11
I think Bachmann is positioning herself to explore a run for President, for one thing. For another, she is going to give the Tea Party perspective on the speech, which may or may not differ from the Republican perspective. Since we do not know what either Ryan or Bachmann will say, it is premature to assert that Bachmann will rebut anything that Paul Ryan will say. However, she may hit on points that Ryan does not, highlighting those issues that are important to the Tea Party. Who upstages whom really remains to be seen. Perhaps they will both upstage Obama...
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jan 11
I think Bachmann is delusional, actually believing she has a shot at winning the GOP Presidential nomination. There seems to be a lot of that going around, with Palin, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and even Rudh Giuliani also falling victim...lol!
I also have little doubt this plan for a "rebuttal of the rebuttal" or a second rebuttal - whatever the he11 it turns out to be - is purely personal against Ryan for Bachmann since he had spoken out against her getting a leadership role in the new GOP led House. In my opinion, all this will do is further divide the Republican party, thereby hurting their chances of keeping the House or regaining the Senate and the Presidency in 2012.
Annie

@anniepa (27955)
• United States
23 Jan 11
Gladys, thanks so much for the BR.
Now, in my own defense...
Taskr, Bachmann called for the MEDIA to investigate members of Congress, I think she meant ALL members whether they'd ever done anything to justify it or not. I'll bet you Gladys most certainly HAS heard the entire text of Bachmann's "armed and dangerous" comment. I also don't get how you think you "proved" she hadn't seen the actual map that was on Sarah Palin's website just because she failed to notice the one you posted by the DNC. I'm not and I never have "blamed" Sister Sarah for the shootings in Arizona, but one fact that can't be ignored is this - the Congresswoman who was shot wasn't on the DNC map in cross hairs and didn't voice her own fear because of the DNC map. Giffords' own words are something the right has simply pretended were never said.
Rollo, I'd really appreciate not being accused of being "dishonest", intellectually or otherwise. I don't do that to you. The thing about Bachmann's remarks that shouldn't be overlooked is she has to know who her audience is, that they include not all but many from the farthest right fringe. These people don't always hear or understand context, they hear WORDS such as "dangerous". I'll give you your argument about being "armed" with information, but why "dangerous"?
Annie
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
24 Jan 11
Fine, we'll have to agree to disagree! I'll even say I'd guess some on the right don't approve of the type of rhetoric often heard from Bachmann and others like her. I didn't say I assumed those listening to Bachmann would include a "violent" fringe element, but even you have to admit that's always a possibility and that she's not exactly what could be called a "mainstream" politician. She doesn't appeal to moderates or those in the middle, even center-right.
I've also never said there isn't a fringe on the left and that some of them can't have a violent streak.
Annie

@artistry (4151)
• United States
26 Jan 11
...Hi there, Kind of late to the discussion and my comment is probably not revelant to the discussion except for the name mentioned in the title line. I don't know who lives in the Bachman Overture district or if they have spoken with her at one time or another, but this woman should find some other venue besides Congress to trot around and make speeches which seem as though they are out of the twilight zone. She stood up on Tuesday I believe it was and went on and on about how we may be the last generation who receieves the torch, that we are spending so much money that we are in danger of losing our great American way. That the founding fathers abolished slavery and the Adams family, John Quincy Adams by name, were so astute and knew what to do to preserve the country. Where did this woman obtain her information on history. The founding fathers, most of them owned slaves and it took gosh knows how many years before slavery was abolished. She is a total airhead and will say anything without a clue as to the meaning or the truth. The fact that they chose her to make a rebuttal is senseless and quite amazing. Send her home to those who love her. Cheers.




