Beings from the 4th dimension. Carl Sagan explans it all.

United States
February 16, 2011 11:23pm CST
If religious beliefs and experiences are a type of insanity than I blame mine on Carl Sagan. I ran across this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnURElCzGc0 I haven't seen this since I was a kid. It reminds me of how much I loved listening to Carl Sagan. What do you think could this be an accurate description of what happens to our primitive 3rd dimension existences when we are exposed to a higher dimension such as a religious experience? Consider the book of Daniel while watching this, especially Daniel 5:5 In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.
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@lixolin (11)
• Sweden
17 Feb 11
Wow, i had forgotten all about this video! It's a very interesting philosophical question, but i don't believe that you can apply it to religion. Carl Sagans concept of four dimenson (or five, six and so forth) is based on the fact that they are still directions within this material world in wich we live. however, most religions say that their god, or other omnipotent entity, is out of time, out of space, all knowing and all powerful. The part of out of space could be explained by a fourth dimension, the entity then being outside our perception of space. The allknowing, all powerful part can also be theorized to be the entity looking at us, or pushing is from his/hers dimension. However! out of time dosen't make sense, at least to me. A being in the fourth dimension would be subjected to all rules of physics, just like we are, and that includes time! But since most divine enteties are said to be out of time and everlasting, i don't believe that they can exist in the fourth dimension. They are more likely to exist merely on a plane of faith, where nothign apart from your beliefs exist. In many holy scriptures, including the bible, they talk about this "faith plane", and that god exists there, and to come to him we must take a leap of faith. I believe this quite accurately describes what god is, something that only exists because we believe in it.
• United States
17 Feb 11
You should also watch the second part where he quotes from the Vedas. Anyways you bring up the subject of time. Some scientist believe time is just another dimensions. Or that every moment in time is a dimension in itself which splits into infinite amount of other dimensions based off of every action.
• Sweden
17 Feb 11
Oh really? I've got to chek that out later! well, i'm no expert on dimedsional physics, and since both physicists and philisophers have tried to define what time is for centurie, i don't think that we will be abled to come to any type of conclusion in a discussion like that here. However your argument is interesting, i've nevere really considered time as a dimension before. I think the concept is quite complex, but in order to percieve it lite that we must conclude that every moment in time dosent only require it's own dimension but it's own acctual space, and that our perception of "time" is just a general perception of all these dimentions in sequence.
• United States
17 Feb 11
There is a big difference between Insanity and Misinterpretation. As far as spiritual force maybe what we believe to be spirit is not so mystical at all but just part of how the universe works. Did you watch the video islander7?
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
17 Feb 11
For me yes it is very good for him but he can't do the world if they don't worship the only true God Jehovah.
• United States
17 Feb 11
It was the best scientific approach to explaining the mysteries of the universe I have ever heard and thought it might help others come to grip on experiences they have had.
@gjabaigar (2200)
• Philippines
17 Feb 11
Howdy yo! EvanHunter and Scholars of myLot.... From 1st to 11th Dimensions, are all about spatial, layers or levels of consciousness or intelligence. Universe within a universe or parallel universe. A hyper-multidemensional physics. Combinations of Quantum Physics and Meta Physics. Mr. Carl Sagan just explains about the behaviors and structures of physical matters, energies, electromagnetism, sub-atomic particles, up, down, left, right of the universe. But these all about consciousness. Here in our realm or universe we simultaneously experience those multi-dimensions but not consciously aware. Just Mr. Einstein said all of these physical experiences we consciously aware of, are just the tail of the lion but still we don't know if it is really the tail of the lion. All throughout the consciousness and experiences said on the Bible are all part we and are all living on multidimensional. And we are a multidimensional beings with physical Body and esoterically Spirit, we all beings of cosmic light energies. We are both experiencing a parallel universe now, consciously or not. Our consciousness has really effects on some physical aspect of the universe that makes our imperfections like gravity, radiation, atmospheric pressures and more. We all victims of the illusions in this realms we striving to live and survive life. Others who has a higher level of consciousness, understanding and experiencing the different levels those dimensions. Like those who are visionaries or having a Third Eye or sixth senses or more. Or who has a highest consciousness or the Christ consciousness. I have a question in my mind, if physics and other theories explains the structures and origins of all the matters in the universe and universe itself then how about consciousness? Are consciousness has a part of these physical and materialistic universe? and most of all Why consciousness exists? .... and much more.. Thank you for a very nice and sweet discussion.