How few workers in the US are "Net Tax Payers"?
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
March 8, 2011 7:35pm CST
According to the CIA World Factbook, there are 104,411,352 males & 104,808,064 females between 15-65 years of age in the United States. A total of 209,219,416.
Out of that number, I wonder how many of us are "net tax payers". In other words, how many actually pay into the federal budget more than they get back in paychecks and benefits.
This isn't a judgement of anyone, I (for example) have never been a net tax payer. I started working when I was 12, but didn't have jobs that withheld taxes until I was 14. At the beginning of each year, I sent in my tax returns and got back every penny I had paid. After high school I did work, and more was pulled from my pay, but again, I always got back what I paid in.
Then I joined the military. I got to the point that I did get returns, but it wasn't everything I paid in either, so I became a taxpayer. However, since my entire pay and benefits package came from the federal budget, I still wasn't a net tax payer.
In fact, none of my fellow service members are.. neither are government employees (elected or otherwise). No one whose primary source of income is from the government is.
That wouldn't just include federal government elected officials and employees either. My father was an electronic engineer. He worked for Sperry/Univac, Unisys, L3, Loral and several other companies. They were all government contractors. In other words, the companies majority "accounts receivable" was the federal government. All of my dad's projects were for the federal government, which means, he paid taxes but got more back than he paid... the same is true for all who are employed by government contractors.
Obviously we would have to include everyone who receives more money in any government social program than they pay in taxes.
Then there are the farmers who get more in farm subsidies than they pay in taxes.
This would also include those who get paychecks from corporations who are being "bailed out".
I know there are people who have access to enough raw data to be able to figure this out, but I'm not one of them. I wonder how little of that 209,219,416 can actually say that the government is in the red because of them.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
9 Mar 11
I don't get any refunds. Maybe I'm doing my taxes wrong, but being self-employed, I'm writing checks and not receiving them. 

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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
9 Mar 11
Wasn't the number about 40% of wage earners who don't pay taxes? I thought I remembered that. It's one thing to get back some or most of what you've paid in. It's another thing to pay zero taxes and then get a "refund". That's an entitlement program, not a refund.
I was surprised at how much my husband and I owed in taxes the first year we were married - over what was taken from his pay check.
I will tell you that it's true that today the IRS is a "kinder and gentler" department of the government. They do work with people who owe and cannot pay right away. But they're the ones who decide what you can afford to pay each month, based upon your income and what it costs for your housing, utilities and food. That's all they care about, so other expenses you have don't count towards what you can or cannot pay them. :-)
When I went to my first TEA party rally, it was suggested that people would care more about what they tried to get from the government for "free" if they actually paid some taxes. Some suggested that each American with any kind of income - even SS - should expect to pay at least $100 per year. That would save the US a bundle, if there were no refunds for persons who never paid anything in.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Mar 11
I don't get near what I pay in, back. Haven't since my youngest child got married.
Interesting question. Who would have that info, the IRS?




