Forced Service

@laglen (19759)
United States
March 18, 2011 8:04am CST
Charlie Rangel - Democrat from the House of Representatives, is digging up an old bill. He would like to see forced enlistment for youth aged 18 to 25. The last time this was brought to the house, it was voted down 402 - 2. Sounds pretty bi-partisan to me. [i] "All of America's children should share the risk of being placed in harm's way."[/i] Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/03/17/rangel-reintroduces-measure-impose-draft#ixzz1GxDdKwMB Yes he really said that. This is taken from a letter to colleagues trying to drum up support for the Universal National Service Act. What do you think of Rangel's proposal? Do you think their should be forced service?
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• Pamplona, Spain
18 Mar 11
Hiya laglen, A forced Military Service? I thought that went out ages ago. It did here too. If they want to be volunteers to be a Soldier then that has to be their own personal choice. Something done like that forced was never good for anyone. Here it was 15 months too they got paid three hundred pesetas a Month and they had no more than that. Of course loads of them managed to get out of doing it as their Careers were cut in half because of the break in their Studies before they had to do it like that. Now it is voluntary as well.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I even went out with an American Sailor for the Night great guy too lol I like going out with our American Sailors too. However, I am more partial to Marines...
@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
In times of war, we have had a draft. Otherwise, our military has always been voluntary. I remember back in the day when we had the best military in the world...
• Pamplona, Spain
18 Mar 11
Hiya laglen, Yes I know that too. When I was in Barcelona we saw the American Ships that were in Port at the time and we met them as well some of them. They were very educated and very polite. I miss going there and seeing all that. I even went out with an American Sailor for the Night great guy too.
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@hofferp (4734)
• United States
19 Mar 11
I'm opposed to forced enlistment and I'm upset that Rangel isn't focusing on ways to reduce spending rather than ways to increase spending. Just how much does Charlie think forced enlistment would cost? I can tell you it won't be free...
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
19 Mar 11
great point. These kids would have to be paid. Al would use the GI bill., how about health care. Yes this would be very expensive. And to spend it on people that do not want to be there...
@laglen (19759)
• United States
22 Mar 11
As it is, a lot of our soldiers are tossed aside. I wonder where all this extra money will come from since a usual democrat cry is to cut the defense budget.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Not only would the kids have to be paid (+ benefits), you take on the kids' family. There's a huge cost associated with taking care of a soldier's, airman's, etc. family while deployed...
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@mac1946 (1602)
• Calgary, Alberta
18 Mar 11
In this day and age of no jobs and gang activity,I would support conscription. It teaches respect,how to take orders,as well as giving a chance for a great education. There is always a chance for war,both at home and away,and having a good well trained Army,Navy,Air Force and in the case of America and Great Briton,Marine Corp,is better than having to start a draft and sending in troops with only minimal training into combat. Thank you for the discussion.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
But currently you ng people can get this, they just are not REQUIRED
• United States
28 Mar 11
a lot of countries actually do that now. um..i'm not sure what i think.on the one hand,it might teach them discipline,manners, and provide work in this economy..and leave open other jobs for older people..having said that tho,i'd hate to see young lives thrown away on wars. right now this would be a bad time to enlist,forced or otherwise.we keep getting involved in things,i'm sure they will instate it at some point.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
29 Mar 11
I dont like the idea of a forced military, I would prefer the person protecting me be there because it was their choice.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I already told my son that if he even thinks of enlisting while Obama is around I will pitch a fit like no fit has ever been pitched. Rangel's got a lot of nerve. What jerk keeps re-electing him?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
wait for it.... wait for it.... ah yes a brain child from New York. I mean NO offense to citizens of New York, but come on people. How much more corrupt do you need them? Between New York and Illinois... well I just dont know...
@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
It is all about name recognition. That way, people do not have to pay attention or do their homework. It is lazy voting. I would imagine that Saddam Hussein could get elected there.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Mar 11
The people in his district are just complete morons. He had 4 yes FOUR democrats challenging him in the primaries during his last election. I understand that the people there are too stupid to vote anything but the letter D, but there were clearly other people with that letter next to their names that were better than him.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Mar 11
They're gearing up for the revolution.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Obama's Army!
@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I have ssen this. this is why he wants our kids.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Mar 11
The draft is unconstitutional and violates the 13th amendment. Of course a criminal like Rangel certainly isn't about to let something like the constitution get in his way.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
what, that antiquated piece of paper? we dont need no stinkin constitution.
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I may be wrong, but I think the last time the draft was used was Vietnam. The draft has been used in times of war, when things are escalating. At the moment, that is not happening. I don't see it being supported. As for his reasoning, "All of America's children should share the risk of being placed in harm's way." That is not going to get the support he wants. However, I do not particularly support the draft being reinstated, I do think that young people that do not have their future planned out, as in going to college, etc. should consider the Armed Services, it is a good career move, it will pay for college, and they have benefits.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I agree it is a great idea for the kids to VOLUNTEER for service. But I truly disagree with a FORCED service
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Mar 11
I think that a draft should only be imposed when actually needed. I have not heard that the volunteer military was coming up short on numbers. I am confused as to why Rangel would be calling for such a move. On the other hand, Democrat support is low in the military. Maybe everyone should join and then we can be guaranteed that Obama is a one-term president.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I think it goes hand in hand with Obamas army. His desire to get the youth marching for him!
@sender621 (14889)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I am not in favor of seeing forced enlistment into the military come back. What kind of service can be expected from someone when it is not done on a voluntary basis. If the miltary wants enlistments, they should make it be encouraging to the individual and not a threat.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I agree, where will loyalty lie?