Another Federal Intrusion on States Sovereignty
By laglen
@laglen (19759)
United States
March 18, 2011 8:37am CST
So Now the feds will tell states when kids can drive. Representative Tim Bishop (D) of New York is sponsoring the STAND UP Act, or The Safe Teen and Novice Driver Uniform Protection Act.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/17/proposed-federal-law-brakes-state-age-limits-teen-drivers/#ixzz1GxSZuWwW
They claim it will save lives. So will outlawing automobiles. This is clearly a state issue and in my opinion, the federal government should stay out of it.
What do you think?
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Let me get this straight, they want to draft our children, but they want to save lives?
It is an intrusion on state sovereignty. But the federal government has been doing this since the civil war. And NO, I am not for slavery. But the civil war WAS ABOUT STATE'S RIGHTS, not slavery. Read an unrevised history book.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Mar 11
I know the politically corret will come and say I am a conspriacy nut, but this has not just happened overnight. It's like we've all been asleep for the last 100 years and just now woke up and went...
We've all been to trusting and to lazy (collectively of course) to see it coming. But I fear, big brother is here and plans to stay.

We've all been to trusting and to lazy (collectively of course) to see it coming. But I fear, big brother is here and plans to stay.2 people like this

@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
18 Mar 11
The incremental erosion of the 10th amendment is key to a powerful, centralized dictatorship.. I mean, government. This is the goal of all good regressives... I mean, progressives... my bad.
The federal government needs to stay out of about 90% of what they've already firmly got their nose stuck into. Adding to the list of things they shouldn't be doing is just obsessive over-achievement if you ask me.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
lol agree obsessive over achievement. But it seems only big brother knows whats best. You need to pay attention dear Rollo. Frankly I a do not know how past generations ever survived with out somebody telling them what kind of toilet to have.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
18 Mar 11
How does setting a standard age nationwide really matter? If anything it would cut down on technicalities. Lets say in one state your old enough to have your liscense & drive but in the next state you not. If you drove across the state line you could be arrested because they'd say your liscense was invalid because of your age. This type situation can be a royal pain the the a$$.
My region for example doesn't require a liscense plate for a utility trailer. I went on a weekend trip one time & loaded up my trailer for the campout. A couple states away I got stopped & detained for a few hours because their state required a plate on the trailer.
Well, there went the afternoon...
Well, there went the afternoon...
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
18 Mar 11
"How does setting a standard age nationwide really matter?"
It violates the US constitution. IF they want this, they must propose an amendment to the constitution that would give the federal government such authority. The scenario you described wouldn't be an issue if the person had a valid license and registration from his respective state. If the officer doubted it, all he would have to do was call the DMV in that state which is typically listed on the back of the license.
The situation you personally dealt with clearly sucked, but this law wouldn't affect it. Also, when travelling across state lines it is technically your responsibility to follow the laws of the state you travel to.
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Your making too big a deal over the soverinity of the states. This is really a simple issue. A simple standard. It could be an issue if the state wanted to be a butt about it which is what happened in my case. They could simply chose to say, your not old enough to be legal here, your liscense is invalid in this state & lock you up. It's all goverment in one form or another no matter which level it is so it's all the same B.S..
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Read what the founding fathers thought about state sovereignty. It was even a big enough deal to our early leaders to fight a civil war over.

@laglen (19759)
• United States
18 Mar 11
10th Amendment? we dont need no stinkin.... sorry, couldnt resist. You are absolutely right. The 10th amendment is forever being ignored. However, it seems to me that more states are passing laws and standing up for their sovereignty. I dont care of it is a law about mints on pillows, states should not give ONE INCH!
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
18 Mar 11
Just another pathetic nanny government program. The constitution does not give the federal government the authority to make these kinds of laws. All rights are reserved for the state, and thus it should be.
Down with the nanny government. Power to the states.
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@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
19 Mar 11
This in no way intrudes on States' sovereignty -- State sovereignty does not include a right to federal funding. States that do not wish to meet these standards are perfectly free to forego the highway funds that are conditional on implementation of these standards. Article I, Sections 8 and 9 clearly give Congress the power to set the conditions under which the Federal government spends money.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Which amounts to bribery, at best financial coersion.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
20 Mar 11
While the Constitutional convention delegates sought to strengthen the power of the central government, they also wanted to prevent the new federal government from encroaching on the states' rights to govern themselves. James Madison suggested the federal government be given the power to veto state legislation. This proposal was overwhelmingly defeated. Virgina reserved the right to secede from the union at any time it felt its right to self government was being encroached upon, evidence from Virginia's ratifying convention makes clear that the delegates were entering a voluntary compact among states rather than yeilding their sovereignty to an all powerful federal government. The Federalist (Papers) were written to reassure opponents of the Constitution that their rights of self government were not being compromised. Patrick Henry was concerned that the 'general welfare' clause would someday be used to authorize any federal power the federal government pleased. Others feared the taxing power would give the new government undue power.
I think they were on to something. The anti federalists dropped their objections when the Bill of Rights were included as the first ten amendments. The first, second, ninth and tenth have proved most troublesome in our time. But even with the first, at the time of ratification it was understood that it did not grant power to the federal government to limit or interfere with church-state relations. It very clearly says, CONGRESS shall make NO LAW. The states were free to address the issues on their own and often did.
I am a conservative and advocate of returning to Constitutional government.
@TheMetallion (1834)
• United States
19 Mar 11
Perhaps so, but that is the power the Founders gave to Congress. If you think the relationship between Federal and State governments should operate differently, propose an Amendment to the Constitution and we can consider it, but it's not as if Congress is taking some power from the States the Constitution doesn't grant it.







