Is Harry Alford a Racist ?

@Rollo1 (16676)
Boston, Massachusetts
April 30, 2011 12:28pm CST
Harry Alford, the President of the National Black Chamber of Commerce and a 2008 supporter of Barack Obama told radio host Laura Ingraham that Obama's administration is "Marxist" and "fanatical." "They might as well put on the brown shirts and swastikas". http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/29/black_chamber_of_commerce_president_blasts_marxist_brownshirt_obama.html Alford has previously blasted the Obama administration for the EPA's CO2 regulations, saying they will hurt minorities. Is Harry Alford a racist?
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
30 Apr 11
Like anyone who opposes Obama's views and far left anti-business policies, in the eyes of Obama and his croonies, he is a racist. In the eyes of those who oppose Obama's far left, he is a pro American and pro business, and wants America to succeed. Oh the only part about him being a racist is his statement that EPA's CO2 regulations will hurt minorities. It will hurt everyone. It is the same as someone saying that abortion hurts blacks, when it hurts everyone regardless of race, color, o creed.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 May 11
The trouble is that not just black people are poor. There are many white people who are poor. And you also have to consider that many of those black babies who were aborted were not conceived by single parent families but those men who wanted to show their 'manliness' by sticking their **** in any female they dated. However, I think that we cannot say that one particular group is being reduced, and forget about the others. We have to say that abortion hurts the poor of all races. I also think that with the media and the talk shows and judge shows showing a lot of black people in their audience and in some case, more then whites, that the black people may think that they have nothing to worry about.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Apr 11
It seems that simply being pro-America is enough to make you anti-Obama and that is a sad thing. When the president seems so set against the American ideals and goals that we have long cherished and protected. I agree that regulations on CO2 will hurt everyone, but in cases like that when everyone is affected, those with less suffer more from further loss. Abortion is a horror that is perpetrated in all classes and races, but new studies show that nearly 50% of all black babies are aborted and so I think that abortion seems to affect some classes and races more.
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• United States
2 May 11
We're all pro America. We just disagree on the issues. For example, many of us disagree with Obama's stance on Israel. That doesn't make us racists.
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@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
30 Apr 11
White people have been called Marxists (Clinton and Carter.) Usually, we say someone does something racist when they do something to Blacks that they don't do to Whites. Now if Alford, a Black man, had of said that Obama was a baboon or monkey or the other racist things attributable to Blacks since the time of slavery, then of course, he would be racist. Blacks can be racist against themselves. For example, in the fifties in this small town, there was the first Black gas station/car auto repair place, let's call it Jones Auto. Jones Auto did decently and had both Whites and Blacks come to his place. Of course there were Whites who wouldn't go to Jones Auto, and there were also Blacks who wouldn't go. The Blacks complained, Jones Auto charges too much and Jones Auto does horrible work. So they took their auto to the White business. This was racist (irrational) because the White businesses actually charged more. One particular White business was famous in the city. So the Blacks who complained that Jones Auto did bad work and cost too much, instead took their business to Knerr Auto. But Knerr Auto charged them more than Jones Auto. And Knerr auto took the work back to Jones Auto because Jones Auto specialized in that kind of work. Moral of the story, Blacks who thought the White business could do better than the Black business, were indeed racists. But those who were truly disatisfied with Jones Auto cannot be called racists for their "experiences". The racists were the ones who went on word of mouth (like the Birthers). They have no logical reason to say what they say. Instead, they're keeping the White Suprermacy thing going.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
1 May 11
Politicians being compared to monkey - As you can see, there is no inherent racism in comparing politicians to monkeys. Democrats are just playing the race card because they can't defend our incompetent president
"White people have been called Marxists (Clinton and Carter.)" White people have also been called monkeys, chimps, and babboons. There is nothing inherently racist about comparing a human to an animal. The "Obama Monkey" for example is no more racist than the "McCain Monkey". http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8jF8AdVbcJI/SHlIXY-fmEI/AAAAAAAAAqs/hxakj32Os8E/s400/SockPoliticians.com+-+Home+of+the+ObamaMonkey_1215907891617.jpeg
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Apr 11
Your example doesn't really make sense, because it might have been that Jones Auto didn't do as good a job as the other business. Also, competing businesses might find some customers more satisfied with their service than others, regardless of the quality. Haven't you ever known someone who swears by a business that you don't particularly like? And the truth of it is, that no white person can criticize Obama on anything, any policy, any issue - because if they do they will be called racist. I was called a racist just yesterday. There is no White Supremacy thing in the fact that prior to the release of the birth certificate, two thirds of voters said they were not sure that Obama was born in the US. That's a trust issue. And since Obama had a nearly two-thirds approval rating when he first took office (70%), your premise means that millions of Americans who weren't racists then, suddenly became racist. It's much more likely that more people are just more dissatisfied with the president's poor performance and are opposed to his agenda.
• United States
2 May 11
taskr, you must be very very young. No, White people have not been called monkeys and other things over the ages in the context that Black people have. It's time for it to stop without making excuses that Whites go through it when they don't. There are many things to call President Obama that do not have a racial connotation. Debra, I gave an example of racism above. In my city, and I have been here all my life, there is a certain segment here, who do not trust any Black professionals, if they are not Barbers or Beauticians. It's very evident, and I explained that too, why some people may not want to frequent Black establishements, but that goes for Whites as well. I agree with you that there are people who over do the racism angle. But it is here and can be plainly seen by all except those who don't want to see it. The sad fact is that many White people in American are still racist. And some Black are too, when you look at the actual definition of racism. Whites can be are there are some, who are racist against Whites. There are Blacks who are racist against Blacks. After a over four hundred year mindset that only Whites can do certain things, racism is a hard thing to get rid of. It was only within the past twenty years that a Black quarterback was accepted. I'm shocked that we have a Black President. Rollo, racism doesn't make sense. That's my point. It is an irrational emotion. I had explained, if you read again that to some people "Jones Auto didn't do as good a job as the other business". But the point is that Jones Auto did do as good as and better than the other businesses since they came to him with business he should have had in the first place. "And the truth of it is, that no white person can criticize Obama on anything, any policy, any issue - because if they do they will be called racist. I was called a racist just yesterday." That is not a truth. Obama was criticized before he sat in the White House. Your statement is also false because plenty of White people criticized the President on various issues and weren't called racists. Of course, you're going to have a minute number of persons cry racism for anything someone says about him. And some will use the racism (real or imagined) to further their own causes. 1) Two thirds of what voters. Your two thirds implies that there is a large percentage of people who don't know their civics. I say again, there is a process on must go through to be President. And civil servants under the Bush Administration worked on his papers. And I'm sure a minute number of these two thirds were fooled by the false Kenya certificate. Where is there a premise that "millions of Americans who weren't racists then, suddenly became racist." If I'm getting you correctly, you feel that two thirds of voters saying they are "not sure that Obama was born in the Us" is implying racism. Nowhere do I say that. It's the ones actually saying that he wasn't born in the US in spite of other facts, that makes their thinking irrational and thus racist. There was absolutely no reason for the birther movement. It's one of the most moronic movements to happen in this country in a long time. Lastly, you say a trust issue. Take a social science class and learn about racism. You'll see that trust is part of the problem. Racism will never go away as long as people don't understand what it is. That gives charlatans (Black and White) such as Jesse Jackson and Trump, an opporunity to further their own goals.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
30 Apr 11
Of course he is a RACIST he is speaking out against President Obama's ideas. For him not to be a racist he must be more like Rev. Wright and his GD America.
• United States
30 Apr 11
He is not a racist because he doesn't say racist things about the President. Calling President Obama a Marxist, Communist, or whatever, is not racist no matter who says it.
@Rollo1 (16676)
• Boston, Massachusetts
30 Apr 11
They call Herman Cain a racist simply because he is a black conservative. See, the liberals turn racist when blacks don't vote the way the liberals want them to.
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• United States
2 May 11
"They call Herman Cain a racist simply because he is a black conservative." Some of the ill infomred call him racist. It's not because he is a Black Conservative. I know quite a few conservative Blacks who are not called racists. It's the message, it's what they say. To some radical Blacks, he might be called an Uncle Tom, but not racist unless he says something that is racist. I do agree with Rollo, and I think Rollo get's it a little, when Rollo says, "the liberals turn racist when blacks don't vote the way the liberals want them to." I've seen the racism come out on some boards because Blacks as a whole do not embrace homosexuality.
@millertime (1394)
• United States
1 May 11
No, he could never be a racist. First, he's black so he can't be a racist. Second, he's a liberal democrat and we all know that they can't be racists. He's only criticizing Obama's policies. Liberals can never be racist for criticizing Obama or his policies. Only republicans, conservatives or right wingers can be racist for criticizing Obama's policies. That's how it works.
• United States
2 May 11
Thanks Rob but you missed my sarcasm...
• United States
2 May 11
Never say never. Look up the definition of racism and you'll find that anyone can be a racist. I can understand it more, if he had said that Obama was a Muslim as some misguided people do.