Would the Philippines be better if we become part of the USA?

Philippines
June 13, 2011 8:52pm CST
Do you think the Philippines would be better if we became part of the USA? Would you like that to happen? Are they even still interested in our country?
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• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I don't know, some believed that Philippines would have been better with the USA and I'm not saying that their beliefs are not without merit but I think it would have been a bigger mess. If USA did not free us back then, there would have been an endless battle, endless war and an endless bloodshed. We Filipinos value are independence the most. And as a Filipino, we'll never stop until we get our freedom. I don't think I'd like it if the Americans gets a control of our country. If one nation is seized by another, that nation we'll do everything to escape from their grasp. I don't want that for my family, I don't want to live in a country where there's be no peace. I know our country is not perfect, no, we are very far from it, but still, I value the freedom that we have today. I haven't given up my hope that we could still be a progressive country someday.
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
are you not aware what happened in Hawaii? instead of us, Hawaii is the 51st State of America.... as long as Filipinos is still the candidate for the next election, HOPE is the determination words for Filipinos to wait until the time will become a progressive country.... why not import Foreigners to govern the Philippines?
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I'd ask you one question, then, Do you honestly believed that the people from our country will just sit back and accept that foreigners will govern the Philippines? If you said yes then maybe I'll agree with you. I'm not discounting that there are perks if Americans did govern our country and we may be more progressive, but if civil war and more bloodshed would be the outcome,then I'd rather not.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
my answer is no, why? because the Filipino's will try to engage war against foreigners... the Filipino's will not sit back like that so easy... like what happened before defending our country.... the only thing that i can say is.... that the olds before suffers the ravages of war, the comfort woman, the firing squad and the tortured and the prisoners of war and the slavery.... but for the younger generations like us especially our children, will only manifest the fruit of the benefits if Philippines is now America or Japan like what happened in Hawaii like what happened in HongKong like what happened in Okinawa
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I think we are better off without the America in our lives. I predict that it's going to be a complicated mess if we are part of them. It might not occur to you but many of our neighbors accuse us of being too much American in our tastes and lifestyle. We even have a better standard of English comapred to some Americans (a reason why we are a good market for BPO and call center industry). Some of them accuse us of having no Asian heritage at all. I don't think I would want to be part of America, event though it has its own set of advantages. I value more my national identity (which we seem to be lacking as a nation) than economic opportunities. Besides, Americans are already complicated in their own lives. If we mix with them, I imagine we are going to be a complicated people. We already have our own issues without taking their issues. Americans are always interested and friendly with us. I have a theory that in a sense, America is the big hero and we, as a country, is a lifelong sidekick and aide. America always finds an ally in our government and our government seem to go to the extremes just to please their government in many ways. It has been evident that we have a 'special relationship' with them ever since America purchased us from the Spaniards.
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
Hawaii is a state of USA but they still have their own identity. But I agree with most of what you said.
• Portugal
14 Jun 11
is usa interested in take pinas to them? well i think that pinas would become richer for sure. and divorce would be approved and it would develop. but what about filipino people freedom? i think that the most part is happy that it is independent. and if it became part of the usa things would change. i think it would have positive and negative sides. i dont really know what is the best thing but i dont think it would be that that bad if it became part of the usa. but at the same time maybe that shouldnt happen. who knows how usa people would treat pinoy? i guess it would be better that usa helped pinas but let it continue an independent country^^ that would be the best decision^^
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• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I don't think so especially now that the U.S is in the middle of economic crisis with high unemployment and debts.Besides,if that happens, all the efforts of our heroes to gain our independence will be nothing.I think Philippines, is still the best place to live...if only our government can provide us good jobs and community development.As we can see,Americans still prefer to stay here.
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@Guit08 (597)
• United States
14 Jun 11
I don't think that this would ever happen... Plus, with the current administration in America, we have enough problems as it is! The government has difficulty trying to solve our own problems, and then when they try, they do a very poor job doing so. Obama's answer to everything is just spend more money, print more money, cause more inflation, go further in debt -- which works against logic and common sense in every way. So, yes, I think it's best if the two countries remain separate. :)
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@saphrina (31614)
• South Africa
14 Jun 11
Hell no. Your country is better of being on your own, thank you very much. No toadie can ever rule the philippines. Don't even go there.
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• Philippines
14 Jun 11
It would be the same. I believe its the people who make the country. So, if we Filipino remain selfish and corrupt, even if a great country adopts us, we will still remain in the dump. But, if we change ourselves and work together for the betterment of our country, setting aside our selfish motives, maybe we can be a great and respected country around the globe. I just hope i can live to see that come true.
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@amitgune (877)
• India
14 Jun 11
If you ask me, USA is always interested in every country on this planet. But what matters is, what is good for your country. Personally whenever a small country becomes a part of a large country, it tends to get neglected. So, I think Philippines is good the way it is.
@xfahctor (14124)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
15 Jun 11
I just did a quick look on the web before I responded and I was surprised to see there are actual groups in the Philippines who want to petition for statehood in the U.S. And in what I thought were surprising numbers. I have a few thoughts on this, if I may. I am an American and I would welcome any new state who's people believe in the founding ideals of this country, it's system of governance and it's freedoms. Under our constitution, a state largely governs itself with the exception of very specific functions and limitations. It would require your state maintain a republic type system, with a legislative house and a governor. It would require that your state remove and pass no laws that would be in violation of the rights outlined in the constitution. It would of course also mean the adaption of the U.S. monetary system and economy. You would keep your military and it would likely become your state's national and state guard, under the control of your governor and usable by the national military in times of war and national emergency. Now the bad news....As much as I value our system and the principals it was founded on...people here in the U.S. are sheep. We have gradually voted our way away from the constitution and today's federal government now largely ignores it. So...choose statehood at your own risk. I'll welcome you gladly, but make sure you all know what your getting yourself in to.
• Philippines
15 Jun 11
to be FRANK, those who petition the statehood of the Philippines as part of US are WEAK-minded for me and they didn't value the importance of this countries struggles and conflicts for an indepedendent Philippines. they only want to GET OUT and not work out to solve the problems in the country. my aunty started saying that only since she started experiencing good life in the US. WE DON't want to be another US's burden as we are already have been they want to be under US government so much, then they should migrate to US instead, not dragging the whole country with it, my country that is. I know what are we getting ourselves into if we become a US State and that's why i oppose it.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
15 Jun 11
i am thinking of the Spratley Island of the Philippines... Super Power China is really interested in Spratley... will ever be the Spratley Island be independent to the home Philippines... and Spratley will become part of China? without the help of America?
15 Jun 11
I think Chinese government is just taking advantage with the weak situation of the country. if Philippines were as powerful as United States, they won't have the BALLS.
@asliah (11138)
• Philippines
24 Jul 11
hi, i think that USA still ineterested to our country because they can use our country as a their basement and they can control people here in our country,but aside from that its still better to part of that country because sometimes we need some supplies come from them and they are the one who can provide it.
• Philippines
21 Jun 11
We know the culture of Americans. They are less conservative compared to us Filipinos. It seems like they would do everything (good or bad) in the name of their so-called "freedom." Although I'm not generalizing all of them, I still don't want the Philippines to be part of the USA. If some of our fellow Filipinos would just have a long-lasting discipline, there is no doubt that the Philippines can be a first-world country someday.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I am a Filipino I live in the Philippines most of my classmates in highschool and in college are now in America or in other Foreign nations.... most of my relatives and friends are also in America or in other Foreign nations... your friends, classmates, relatives by luck are in America or in any other Foreign nations too???? majority of the Filipino people here in the Philippines have the dream to earn a green pasture and money thru working abroad if given a chance.... lots and lots of frustrated Filipinos who formed a line in the immigration center if given a chance to marked their passport VISA to work abroad... Nurses Cargivers OFW Seaman all America land-based jobs or etc... but the passport marked by the console as "DENIED" how do your feel? angry to the Americans? because your passport is marked as DENIED???? do you remember the sayings: "It is easy to say that the Grapes is Sour after repetitions of attempted jumps, still can't even catch one grape" see your surroundings here in the Philippines 360 degrees, all of what you see here within your eyes if not made in America then it's made in China... while the Philippines export Filipino Human Workers instead of exporting Items as goods products in Foreign Countries you... if you are lucky enough to give the government a free VISA to migrate in America or in other foreign nations, will you grab that opportunity to escape Philippines for a while?????
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
i really hate celebrating Philippine Independence Day
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
Hawaii is now part of America instead we Filipinos in the Philippines supposed to be have the right to be the 51st State of America.... working in America is free if we are part of America or we are also part of Japan Country if Japanese did won the World War II like what happened in Okinawa, now Okinawa is now a Japan Country.... no need to apply Japayukis... or Entertainers to Japan hehehehe no need to form a line in the Immigration Center hope praying that the Console there would not marked our passport "DENIED" nyahahahaha
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@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
free because no need for a passport visa to enter America as the majority dreams of every Filipinos.... pretending that they can stand without the help of the Foreigners, yet blaming the Corrupt Government Officials, to take a note that they are not there if not for our vote.... we are used to blame and not those Government officials...
@warriorx (99)
• Philippines
17 Jun 11
Yes the Philippines would be better as part of the USA. I would definitely love this to happen in my lifetime. There should be a referendum/plebiscite or a signature campaign for this. And yes, the US is still very interested in our country. They just don't admit it, but actions speak louder than words. They were here with those helicopters helping those people trapped somewhere in Tanay, Rizal during the Ondoy disaster. Last year, they helped clean the estero in Escolta. Then US battleships, most recently the Carl Vinson, regularly show up at Manila Bay. They came all the way here, 10,000 miles away. That's a clue. Pustahan tayo next year, may battleship nanaman dyan malapit sa SM MOA :) Whenever there are calamities in the Philippines, the Americans appear! And now the Spratlys issues, and here they are again. By the way, you can see Americans not only in Intramuros, but also in Divisoria and SM Taytay nowadays. They're now everywhere! And they're interfering in our elections, always, as if they're telling us indirectly, "You our Filipino friends will never prosper with your kind of government. Give it up. One of these days, you will ask and beg us to declare the Phils as part of the USA again." It's as if Washington DC is just waiting for us to request that. And here are more reasons why we will be better as US territory: 1) They'll turn Ermita into a Las Vegas. The slot machines will even appear in 7 11 and Mini Stop. 2) Manila will once again become a big Forbes Park, like it was, more than 65 years ago. Back then, Escolta and Quiapo was where the Gloriettas and Trinomas of that time were. 3) We will be US Nationals like we were before 1946. We can go to Los Angeles anytime with just a passport. 4) The Peso Dollar exchange rate might become $1.00 is to Php2.00 like it was in the 50's. Or we may get a new currency: The Philippine Dollar. I like the sound of that. 5) There will be lots and lots of new jobs here in Manila because the American businesses will multiply here. There will be more call centers, fastfood chains, casinos, beach resorts, hotels, etc. 6) The Americans will take over our Public Schools like they did before and education will really improve. V Mapa High School was a great school then, and the last time they had American teachers was in 1955. 7) The NYPD and LAPD will patrol the streets of Manila and crime rate will go down. And our City Jails will become clean and there will only be 2 inmates per cell. 8) QC will become our Hollywood and Beverly Hills, and the stars will settle here, even Paris Hilton and Angelina Jolie. That's more jobs for us and our families. 9) As US Nationals, we would never be "denied" anymore when travelling abroad. We can now go anywhere (Canada, UK, Australia, Japan, France, Korea, etc.) as long as that destination is a US Ally. We'd have the world in our hands. Today, we can be in Hawaii. Tomorrow, we can travel to Spain. All these privileges we will have if Filipinos have a US passport. 10) We will finally have a Philippine team in the NBA Eastern Conference: the Philippine Islanders. If you guys have a better name for this, just share :) 11) We will have welfare from the government when we are unemployed. 12) We will have the best medical technology available here. Already, Gat Bonifacio Hospital in Tondo has American consultants. Oh so that's why there are also Americans in 168 Mall. 13) We will have more than 500 cable TV channels. 14) There will be separation of Church and State. We will finally leave the Middle Ages. 15) And lastly, the prices of goods will be low, just like in the Mainland.
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Jun 11
true, very true... if the Filipinos believed that they are presently Independent, then: stop sending Filipino's to America stop sending Filipino's to any Foreign Countries Philippines have plenty of vacant jobs here... let all the Filipinos abroad go back home to the Philippines and never come back to foreign lands.... let's see how the Filipinos suffer from Over-population resulting to EXTREME-OVERFLOWING POPULATIONS.... the Philippine Island will sunk to the bottom of the sea because the Filipino Humans weight much greater compare to the Philippine Soils.... and by that: requesting to open topic the RH-Bill again hehehehe
@xfahctor (14124)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
17 Jun 11
warriorx, I see a number of problematic statements and I wish to correct them. "They'll turn Ermita into a Las Vegas. The slot machines will even appear in 7 11 and Mini Stop." Issues such as this are issues of local governance and commerce. The only way Ermita would become Las Vegas is if the city of Ermita decides to allow casinos and slot machines in convenience stores. "The NYPD and LAPD will patrol the streets of Manila and crime rate will go down. And our City Jails will become clean and there will only be 2 inmates per cell." The only ones patrolling the streets of Manila would be the MPD (Manila Police Department), established by and run by the city of Manila. The LAPD and NYPD do not even patrol the streets of other cities in the continental U.S., let alone any territory of ours. Law enforcement is a matter governed by local authorities and the federal government has no control over what departments patrol what areas. Jails would of course be subject to some minimum standards, but would also be largely under the control of local and state (or territory) government. [i] "We will have more than 500 cable TV channels."[/i] Only if cable companies that offer more than 500 channels set up shop in the Philippines...this again is not something that would be with in the scope of government to do. "There will be separation of Church and State. We will finally leave the Middle Ages." We don't even really have that here, it is a wide misconception. What we have is a constitutional amendment that forbids laws being made that forbid free religious practice or that establish a national religion. It is one of the most abused and misunderstood parts of our constitution and people have used it to justify a lot of really petty and stupid lawsuits and government action. (like forbidding nativity scenes on library lawns, forbidding prayer in schools, etc)
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
18 Jun 11
and if the Philippines is governed by America i am very sure... RH-Bill and Divorce Law will implement here in the Philippines LEGALLY
@topffer (42323)
• France
14 Jun 11
Weird discussion, don't you think ? Your country has fought for its independence since the 19th century, and now you want to be part of USA ? It remains me a former French colony, Comoros, four islands in the Indian Ocean. In 1973, after a referendum, 3 islands chose to be an independent state, and the fourth, Mayotte, chose to stay French : it is now a French department. In 1999, the largest island, Anjouan, asked officially to be French again, and my country refused : the time of colonial empires ended soon after the second World War, and independence is not a reversible process.
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I don't know.. I'm just thinking if we our country is under a more better government, then there might be a chance for improvements. USA is a free country after all. So if we become part of it, would that take away independence? Well, partly yes, but if it means better life for the people, then it should be considered as an option.
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@topffer (42323)
• France
14 Jun 11
Are you thinking at an economical alliance, like in Europe ? I am not sure we have a better life in Europe than before because we have the same money. For a citizen X like me, the only tangible things are that the customs are easier to pass, and that I have no more to change money when I go to Spain which is not far. And we have more politicians to elect and to feed...
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• Philippines
14 Jun 11
As long as the politicians there are not as corrupt as our politicians here, then I think it is ok the feed them.
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@louievill (28961)
• Philippines
14 Jun 11
I think there's already quite a number of Filipinos that make up the U.S. population and so many places in our country that are Americanized and Filipinos acting and behaving like Americans so I hope we just live it that way, will save all of us from a big head ache. They will always be our friends and Big brother so hope we just leave it that way, besides we have a mutual defense pact with them. For once I think Filipinos should forget entertaining the thought of statehood and start focusing on our own problems as an independent state and Nation and put the haunt of the past (colonialism) to rest.
• Philippines
15 Jun 11
I am bit dubious about the "mutual defense pact" thing. I just hope China will not even try to attack us!
@eileenleyva (27768)
• Philippines
16 Jun 11
The USA is in the continent of America. The Philippines is in Asia. We are separated by the biggest ocean in the world. Why would the Philippines be a part of the United States of America. Come on, that is only thinking geographically...
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
17 Jun 11
The British is in the continent of Europe. The Hong Kong is a part of China and still located in Asia. They are also separated by the biggest ocean in the world. Why would the Chinese be a part of the British in Europe? Hong Kong is better compare to Manila
• Philippines
15 Jun 11
Hello damned idle, Never, it's better if they wouldn't dare. besides, they're suffering from economic crisis and recession. they recently got involved in two wars that's actually brought their strong economy to a halt. I don't think they still want the Philippines now because it's been too long and United States was a lot more powerful then. My aunties kept saying that CRAP for sometime when they visited here when i was in highschool. i didn't really understand why even though i felt good a bit on what she said. but now, i know where i stand. i think it's better of being independent. a lot has imitated our way of independence against the dictator. were' a role model for the middle eastern protest
• Philippines
15 Jun 11
Yes, I bet they are not interested too, atleast not now
• United States
19 Jun 11
I am surprised there is a fairly large movement to try to make this happen. First off, I don't think it ever will. There is too strong of an independent pride in The Phillipines for a vote to ever pass. Secondly, would the US want The Phillipines? Heck Yeah! Administration would be a nightmare for the first couple years but we'll just get enough taxes to cover the trouble. Finally, you really don't want to be a US State. Even many of the States we have aren't to thrilled about it right now and it is a one-way street. Nobody leaves! You are already under our protection, defense-wise, and, like a big brother, we will always be here if you need us.
@syoti20 (5293)
• Philippines
19 Jun 11
If Philippines become part of USA it only means that our Leaders preciding has no capacity to rule us towards a better life. Therefore, we can consider them people with low kind of leadership. Actually Philippines is a better country and can be more better if the ruler or the leader knows how to handle their obligation/responsibility. If we will be under the governance of American then the Legacy of Jose Rizal will become worthless after fighting for it again Spaniards.