Do you think that the Goverment if working for hardworking people? or Welfare

@dtroas (479)
United States
June 25, 2011 10:10am CST
I am just wanting to know where everyone set's with the way this country is being ran rather you are a democrat or republican. It seems that things are getting worse in the USA instead of getting better. From where I come form anyways. Just wanting to know if everyone else is feeling the same way. Or how you see it. I see a lot of people (young)ones with kids. Living a better life then the hardworking people. The sad thing about it is they are not afraid to admit it that with them being single mom's they get a lot from the system. I think that is something that needs to be stopped in it's tracks. Nothing wrong with helping someone. But to let them live basically went free, free education, health care, food stamps. There has to be a stop soon. Cause this country can not keep keeping up with the demand of welfare!
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@samafayla33 (1856)
• United States
26 Jun 11
Some of the hard working individuals behind the big boys are the ones that work hard and have very little time with their family and friends because they are needed all the time. The heirarchy have more time and can do anything they want just abouts. Pray for those who fight our wars, who help us everyday and focus on those that help us out, and not the big guys cause they have money, and they probably don't care
@dtroas (479)
• United States
27 Jun 11
Thanks for replying, I pray each and every night for everyone. And I hold a very special place for our men and women in uniform.
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• United States
28 Jun 11
I tend to agree with Astonysh and samafayla33 on this. It's a few people who choose to live off the system that cause the problems. I see the middle class carrying the burden of the poor. Of whom they are little better off and close to being on welfare themselves. While I see the richest people who do little if any real work making $100,000 for every $1 someone else earns to create a product they will sell to other middle class people. In modern society it might take 20 people to create enough food and shelter to sustain 100. So, what are the other 80 people to do? If the work is split up then no one makes enough to live on. It basically breaks down to this: for everyone 100 people 50 of them can make enough of everything for everyone. But 75 of them actually are productive. The 75 productive people each get enough and maybe a little more, the 10 that own the means of production get about 90% of the production (basically everything extra from having another 25 productive people and then some), while the other 15 non-producers get a little piece from what the 75 producers get to keep. Sometimes those 15 will do small services to help, but not enough to earn a living wage. If you don't believe it, look at the distribution of wealth and how much more a CEO gets paid than the average worker under them. If you took the wealthiest people and instead of them making $15+ million per year, sometimes over a billion a year, and halved that ($7 million per year is more than enough for anyone, and far more than they could possibly produce in usable goods and services in that time). Look at the bailout alone. That would have been $2,333 to every person in the US or roughly $250,000 to everyone on welfare. Ponder that for a minute.
@dtroas (479)
• United States
28 Jun 11
Thanks for replying. What do you consider the poor these days? Cause poor people do not get any help really. That is why most of them are living on the streets. I am not going to say that CEO are not over paid. For the sake of God I set and watch the bailouts a few years ago and was sick the whole time I watched it. But I also think that welfare is over paid. When I have a cousin it is her and two children. That gets 535.00 a month in food stamps. She turns around and sells them for half price for money. Or full price if you watch her kids. Unreal! we all have an opinion. But I help out in a office as a volunteer and believe me. I hear of how proud people are over the system. Mostly sorry a$$ dads that do not want to take responsibility and get jobs and work to provide for there families. But that will be another topic in its self. Enjoy you day
• United States
29 Jun 11
Poor is a very relative term. To a CEO movie stars are poor. To a movie star the average doctor is poor, and so forth. A homeless American is better off than some people with homes in famine struck countries. I would define a poor person as one who can not reasonably maintain the living standard of people in their society. This doesn't mean keeping up with the Joneses or Kardashians. This means having the thing we would expect a normal adult person to have. Own bedroom not at parents house, transportation, a tv (now at least some cable required), regular internet access, cell phone, a presentable wardrobe, money for food, electricity, basic bills. This doesn't even include things like retirement, savings, insurance, a personal vehicle. In my area a single person without kids needs to make at least $19,337 a year to live, on and that's a pretty bare bones table. In other parts of the country it's probably a little lower and in some higher. But I would definitely say anyone making less than $20,000/year is quite poor. Information from this link. Worth a look http://www.livingwage.geog.psu.edu/
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
26 Jun 11
Why should a poor person get an education if they know that the government will see that they do not fail and will have at least as good a life style as they have now. What we have done is made poverty too convenient and too comfortable. To make poverty go away or at least reduce it you need to make it uncomfortable. Now I am not in favor of letting them starve in the streets but what is wrong with having a food distribution center where they can come and get a weekly supply of food. They may not like the selection but then that is incentive to improve. When immigrants came to this country parents saw that their children received an education so that they could get a job and move up in society. If a person wants to go to college then let them work. If we are giving them financial aid and grants then have them work in the college to earn the aid. What woulod happen if the college did not hire as many housekeepers and instead used students to work in exchange for financial aid? What about a single mother working at a day care that provided free day care for other welfare mothers who are working in exchange for her welfare check or her food stamps. Why can't the children at age 12 be doing some summer volunteering to help the family and learn a job skill. When they reach 16 they can start helping to such things as cleaning up the parks, working with city, county and state road crews. If they don't like it they always have the option of working in the private sector with out fear of losing their total benefits. The other major thing is to index the benefits so that as they make more money they lose part of their benefits rather than it being an all or nothing program. making people responsible for themselves will give them a sense of pride and a chance to improve. But that is not what the nanny state government workers want. They want to take care of them and control their lives.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
25 Jun 11
No matter what is said otherwise it is plain that our country cannot afford to take care of everyone. If the liberals have their way everyone will be taken care of by the government. My question is this; where is the money coming from? Just in case there is someone who feels the liberals are NOT pushing for MORE government spending on entitlements: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/03/24-4 The poor will always be with us. There will always be those who need help. But is it the responsibility of the Federal Government to dole out this help? In scripture it is always the INDIVIDUAL held accountable for what they did for the poor. Alms were given to the religious leaders to hand out, not the king. It is not the job of the federal government to provide for the poor, it is the job of individuals and the churches or synagogues. Individual property owners where admonished in the law to leave some of the harvest in the field for the poor to glean. NOTICE; the poor were to do something for themselves (with help from others more fortunate)by going into the field and gleaning the corners of the field. When the government forces someone to give to help the poor as in 'redistribution' there is bitterness over being forced. When people are left to voluntarily give to help the poor there is no bitterness. The government is not God. http://www.earstohear.net/separation/MandatingCharity.html
@dtroas (479)
• United States
27 Jun 11
Thanks for the reply and I will check into this reading.
• Philippines
26 Jun 11
Yeah! I do lament on this too. I am not from the US but this is quite similar in my country's case. The hardworking professionals are taken for granted by the government because they are focusing too much on those lazy and dependent masses. I mean, the middle class individuals have work and pay taxes dutifully but the taxes are going over those people dependent with the government. I would not rant if those people are working doubly hard to alleviate themselves, but it seems to me that they are enjoying government freebies better. This entails them to just depend on government issued relief. This is really crazy and I hate those thugs and opportunist and I really hate taxes! Sorry if I over run your topic with my rant. Just want to agree with your sentiments in here!
@dtroas (479)
• United States
27 Jun 11
Thanks for replying and No that is just fine. I totally agree with you on this. What country are you from?
• Philippines
27 Jun 11
Thanks for sharing this topic for my sentiments too. I'm from the Philippines. As you may have heard or read, a lot of things can be said with our country. It's just so disappointing and frustrating at the same time.
@adex19 (114)
• Malaysia
26 Jun 11
well the sitution in USA is geting worse very day and i don't think it will get better sooner like most people think. the sitution has reach a stage well people now young without kids live a better life than the hardworking. it because the hardworking people are a lot of thing to pay for at the end of the month so they are leave with little income with does young one have only little outcome to spend.