More proof that the left is anti job.

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
July 5, 2011 7:08am CST
People lament that production jobs have moved overseas. Class warfare warriors whine that corporate leaders fly around in private jets. Guess what is manufactured in the U.S... Gulf Stream private jets. This is the 2nd time Obama and the left have attacked this industry. They simply can't stand the fact that an American product is being used all over the world. When you say people shouldn't use private jets, you are saying that the people who build them, fly them, staff them, refuel and repair them shouldn't have jobs. You are only proving how anti job you really are.
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• United States
5 Jul 11
A good point. Obama should take more vacations (inside the US of course) and redecorate the White house some more in between golf outings designed to lose more balls to help American golf ball companies. Wait, we need to check. Does he use American balls, or put another way: Does Obama have American balls? Definitely we should encourage companies to buy more jets and fly more often, no matter what it costs, 'cuz they can always fire or lay-off employees to cover the costs (which they do). I need to see a study of companies that use their jets weekly and how many people they have laid-off the past two years, but I'm thinking it will be ALOT more than the number of people who are employed by the private jet companies. So who's being anti-job. (Especially when not all these manufacturers whose jobs you are arguing to save are American companies. As an example, the Brazilian Embraer Company is the industry leader in "bizjets" under 120 seats*). As much as I can relate to your frustration over the Obama Administration's weird anti-jet about face, I'm thinking he just wised up after he saw some real numbers that we are not privy to. *according to their website
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
6 Jul 11
The problem is that liberals (and Washington elite) do not understand business and how they operate. The Corporate jet is a tool that is used just like hammer, screwdriver or bulldozer that is used to produce a product or service to earn the company money. Employees are laid off or fired when business takes a down turn. The corporate jet is used to move executives from one place to another quickly just as the President flies from place to place. If the executives flew commercial they would spend much of their time in the Airports going through security and waiting on the plane schedule. To the executive time is money and they don't make money sitting in an airport waiting. If they can't make money then they can't keep the company running. The idea that a company would lay off people to keep the corporate is crazy. When the decision is made to reduce the work force they do it based on the cost/benefit to the company. If they can save money by selling the jet then they sell the jet, if on the other hand there is a part of the company that is losing money then that is the part that is shut down. Corporations do not answer directly to the public or to the government they answer directly to the investors (stock holders) and the stock holders are becoming more involved in actions of the company. They are demanding and getting a say in the executive compensation. They are questioning the actions and making changes just as they did during the civil rights movement of the 60' and 70's. Stock holders only make money when the company makes money and the company can't make money by following every fad that comes along. The companies invest in things that will make them money.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Jul 11
Um, between the manufacturing and support the private jet industry employs over a million people... that's the US part alone. Yes, there have been layoffs in the last two years... since the last time Obama, Pelosi and Reid targeted the industry. It's just like what happened when the Clinton administration did the same thing to the domestic yacht industry. They put a hefty tax on domestic yachts... and almost destroyed the industry because it made it cheaper to buy foreign yachts. Face it, when you say no one should buy something because it's extravagant, you are saying that no one should work in that industry. Anti Job!
@dragon54u (31633)
• United States
5 Jul 11
There's one thing I don't understand...once we lose as many jobs as they seem determined we lose, how will they support all those people? No jobs means less taxes paid. Businesses closing means the same thing. Eventually the well will dry up and how will the gov't feed and house its dependents? Have they just not thought this out or do they really intend that people die hungry and homeless? I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to know how they are thinking.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Jul 11
You forget the first rule of liberalism. Results are irrelevant, we're only supposed to see how much they care.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
5 Jul 11
Absolutely. Plus...Obama's lament was crazy and the liberal media that didn't call him out on it. Those corporate jet deductions that he talked about were something he gave the companies in the stimulus bill. But do you think he'd admit that?
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Jul 11
Nope, he won't admit it. That has become a common theme for him. Make sure someone gets some kind of benefit from the government, then when the person accepts it, go after them for it. Thuggery 101.
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• United States
6 Jul 11
Well, there's one thing he is good at - thuggery.
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• United States
7 Jul 11
Kenzie, I find it funny how republicans didn't support the corporate welfare in the stimulus bill, but now it is so important that they are will to allow the government to default on it's debts. See, sometimes people put stuff in a bill that is pork for a state that will help that states employers. You should actually be happy that Obama found pork to cut, and wonder why republicans didn't vote for this pork, but are fighting tooth and nail to keep it.
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• United States
7 Jul 11
Ted, I have no problem with corporate jets. But, I don't feel that they should be written off on your taxes. Do you? There is a tax break for corporate jets, which is one of the sticking points that made Eric Cantor walk out of debt talks last week. Please explain to me why we should give tax breaks for corporate jets? I have no problem with you flying around in YOUR corporate jet, but why shouldn't you have to pay of it without having your hand out asking for help from the government? Don't republicans call that WELFARE?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jul 11
Why not? Are they a business expense? Yes. That means they should be written off. Tax deductions aren't subsidies. Please keep the two separate.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Jul 11
Now, can you explain to me the benefits of chasing over a million American jobs overseas?
• United States
7 Jul 11
Ted, what kind of "business expense" is it when a retired CEO uses the corporate jet to fly his family around the world? Look at these golden parachutes that CEO's are getting with full access to the company jets. This is $3 Billion dollars over 10 years worth of corporate welfare. According to republicans we are in drastic times, where everything should be on the table. Why not corporate welfare?
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