This Made Me Sad...Even If You Don't Agree With It, Is That A Reason To Be Rude?

Valdosta, Georgia
July 14, 2011 2:44pm CST
My friend came to my house the other day and she was hysterically crying from work. I asked her what was wrong. (She is a dancer) Someone came into her job and told her everyone that works there are all slu** and whor**. She cried and told me this was the only way she could support her child and put herself through college to get out of this job. I felt really bad for her. She is the furthest thing from what the man said she was. She has a hard time doing this job, she is ashamed and embarrassed but she was kicked out when she got pregnant and she is getting back on her feet. Her job is not an easy one, I couldn't do it that's for sure. If he felt that way, why was he in there in the first place? What is your thoughts of this?
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@angie20 (191)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
A verse excerpted from the Bible says "Judge not for ye shall not be judge". There are some people who are prejudiced. They act and speak as if they are the cleanest creature here on earth. I felt bad about your friend, worse she met a man like that. Personally, I don't consider dancing as bad like others may think. It is a decent job compared to those who rob, murder and even kidnap just to earn money. Too hard that when someone wants to get up, some just want to pull that someone down. The best thing you can do is to tell her that her encounter is one of the painstaking situations she have to face to get better. What's important is that, she's doing her very best to make something out of the situation. And by that, she have to continue her ways no matter what happens, no matter how many people hurt her and no matter how hard it is. She is the best mother of her child. Your friend is much lucky to have you, LovingMyBabies as her confidant and friend. Just continue supporting her, until she can valiantly stand alone against thousand of criticisms. That is what friends are for, right?
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@Shellyann36 (11385)
• United States
15 Jul 11
Sounds as if a bouncer should have pounded him on the head a few times before tossing his drunk a$$ out. I have seen several different sides to this. I worked in the bar industry for several years. There are some decent women out there doing what they have to do to make the money they need to support themselves and their children and there are some pure d bad person out there doing everything under the sun for that $. If your friend is not a bad person then what ever this sorry individual said about her should just roll off of her back. Sounds as if he is a jealous individual and very insecure himself.
• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Jul 11
I agree, that is exactly what should have happened! Yeah she is a great person just trying to take care of her baby. He was just a jerk. She is trying to raise enough money to get out of that job so she can be a good example for her daughter.
• United States
15 Jul 11
Simple, he is an a$$hole! A self righteous a$$hole. The only way he can feel good about himself is to put others down. Tell your friend G-d knows how good she is. Her child knows too , You and I do too , Anyone else can take a flying F@ck at a rolling donut! She is working to better herself. And while she graduates college and goes on to be successful, that idiot will be at the same job , doing and saying the same stupid , mean things! Give her s hug and tell her I'm proud of her. It is hard to be a dancer , harder still to go to college. But to do both And be a mother too? That's being s super woman!
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• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Jul 11
He is just what you said he is. That's right, he feels better about himself when he makes others feel bad and that is sad. I feel bad if I hurt someone else, I just don't understand these kind of people. Yeah she is doing a lot to try to improve her life and her babies life...
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 11
Hi Lovingmybabies I think the man was a lousy jerk. How dare he assume that all were slu##S and wh##es that is just horrible. the poor girl. I am glad you are her friend. No I could not do that and more power to her as shes just doing the best she can for her and her child. Why was the b.a.s.t.ar.d even there if he felt like that?
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• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Jul 11
I think he was a jerk too. I felt really sorry for her. It's not right to make an assumption like that and if he felt that way he should have stayed out of there. So it's okay for him to be in there watching but its not okay for them to do it? Makes no sense to me. She is doing her very best trying to take care of her baby...
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
This is indeed sad no one has ever the right to do such thing to her especially if she turned her life around. Tell her that. Tell her to be proud of what has done for her child and for her life. Hug her, she needs a friend to reassure her and not to mind that person. She must put her head high.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Jul 11
I agree it is sad. Yeah she needs to just ignore the stupid ones and keep taking care of her baby.
@dlpierce (495)
• United States
15 Jul 11
Everyone who judges others wrongly must have insecurities of their own. How can we know things about another person's life without knowing them. God should be our only judge.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
16 Jul 11
Yeah I agree with that. Most people judge her line of work. Nine out of ten people feel the same way as that guy they just don't have the balls to say it out loud. That is my belief that most people feel that way...God should be our only judge.
• Canada
14 Jul 11
Ugh! People are soooooo darn self-righteous sometimes! I don't think anyone in today's day and age is above reproach. We all do or have done something that someone else is going to think is wrong, bad, immoral, in poor taste ... call it what you will. No one is perfect and we all make the decisions that we need to make in the moment. I don't understand for an instant why anyone thinks they have the right to call someone names, insult them, slander them, harass them, personally attack them... just because they do, say or believe something different. Sometimes, I just want to say "A woman is a dancer... so what?! How does that personally affect you in your day-to-day life?" "A gay couple wants to marry or have a child together... so what?! How does that personally affect you in your day-to-day life?" No one is coming into your house to impose something on you that you don't like or approve of... no one is dragging you by the teeth to a strip club so that you "have to" look at the men or women working there. That man your friend encountered has every right to his personal opinion, right or wrong, that any woman working as a dancer is a sl** or a who** - it's what he DID about that belief or how he chose to ACT upon it that is absolutely wrong.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
I completely agree with you! My question is if he felt that way why was he in there in the first place? What does that say about him? To me it speaks volumes about him! It's okay for him to go in there and do whatever but it's not okay for them to work there? I don't get it! People, I swear you cannot please them. I agree it doesn't affect anyone else what she does with her life. She isn't telling anyone else to do it, not by a long shot. Exactly, he should have kept his mouth shut.
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• Canada
18 Jul 11
He went there deliberately to push his own personal agenda - and you are right that it speaks volumes about the type of person he is. He's a classic example of what I mean by self-righteous -- he believes he is right and everyone else is wrong. People like that don't understand (or don't want to understand) that no one has to listen to them. Your friend is doing what she needs to do at the moment and, whatever her reasons, they are hers.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
14 Jul 11
Although you didn't say specifically, I assume she is a dancer at a club from the rest of this story. The guy was rude. Boorish, rude and obnoxious. Probably drunk ta boot, but he is most likely just as much of an a$$ when he is sober. That being said, your friend works at a club. It doesn't matter that she is a dancer, she works at a place where obnoxious men gather and drink. Bartenders deal with the same thing in some ways, as do wait staff and bouncers. She is likely going to have to develop a thicker skin if she wants to continue to work in a place where obnoxious guys gather and drink. Nature of the beast unfortunately. It doesn't mean she has to tolerate it. She should be able to get a bouncers attention, point to the obnoxious s.o.b. and have them assist him (air born) through the door. But the problem remains that she is going to occasionally run in to people like that if she is employed there, no matter what her job there is.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
14 Jul 11
It may just be that it isn't the work environment for her. The money is good, but is it worth the trade off for her? Maybe eventually she'll just realize where it's coming from, accept it as part of the scenery and be ok. But I couldn't imagine staying at a job where I left in tears, no matter how good the money was or mow much I needed it. I think I'd either have to leave or learn to deal with the B.S. that comes with the paycheck. I feel for her though, poor kid. Maybe she should consider a less hostile work environment.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
I agree. It wouldn't be worth the money to me to leave in tears every day but apparently for her it is, I don't know. Yeah I feel sorry for her too.
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Jul 11
Yes it is a club sorry thought I wrote that, must have skipped that part. He was rude and an idiot at best. He probably was drunk but your right he probably is an a** all the time. She is a very sensitive person and in my opinion not really the type to be working there but she makes good money because some men like her personality of being shy and quiet and sensitive. That being said she gets hurt a whole lot more than the other women working there. It is a catch 22 type of thing.
@ptower76 (1616)
• United States
15 Jul 11
Evidently, by her reaction to the man's coments, she does have issues with the work she does. I think that if she has decided that this is the only way she can support her family and pay her way through school, she should come to terms with what the job entails. She needs to accept that this is not her chosen career and this does not define who she really is. Jerks are common in places like that, after all, it is probably the only place he can get close to women because of his attitude. He was probably rejected by one of the dancers and so needed to lash out. lol She needs to not take that jerk's comments personally since he really does not know who she really is and is generalizing according to his short comings. You should try to convince her to leave her job at the job and not bring it home. I think the acronym QTIP is appropriate in this case.
@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
15 Jul 11
" He was probably rejected by one of the dancers and so needed to lash out. " That's pretty much what I was thinking on this one. If an individual is frequenting the kind of place we are discussing, I don't think its a sense of morality that makes him make such unkind remarks. Booze and bitterness, THAT is the nasty potion here. I do hope, though, for your friend's sake as well as her child's, that she is able to find something that will not make her ashamed nor expose her to the dangers she is likely to find in the kind of work she has chosen.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
That man deserves to be kicked in his balls. He doesn't have the right to say that. People do things sometimes because they don't have any choice. It might be a dirty job to others but we can't judge people by merely what we see on the surface. I too may have that same impression but i would never blurt it out in public. I'll just keep it to myself. The person working there might have already lost their dignity and by saying that, it's like he's rubbing it in. What an insensitive ahole that guy is. Well, that kind of person probably doesn't have a brain and uses his d*ck to think.
@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
Exactly! I wouldn't be there because i'm against. And i have brains as well! That guy, however, definitely doesn't have one and only got his balls to be proud of, or maybe he doesn't even have a big one to be proud of!
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
He does deserve something, lol. She has been through a lot and unfortunately she is going to go through a lot more before it gets better for her. I feel so bad for her. =( Yeah if he is that strongly against it, why was he in there anyway? Like you, your against it, so would you go in there? Probably not.
@Bannybanzie (1397)
• Philippines
14 Jul 11
That man should have not gone there in the first place. Though those girls may have a not so decent job, he is in no place to disrespect anyone. However, (please don't get mad) your friend must also realize that that is her job. It may be painful, but what can she do? That is her job, right? Look, if you are a call center agent and somebody told you shouting, "You're just a crap answering phones....blah blah blah!" The tone is bad but it's true and maybe you'll find nothing wrong with that. So, sorry for her that that is her job. But maybe she should try looking for a more decent job. Also, this may affect badly her child's growth. This may affect his/her emotionally and physically. When that child studies, it is not unexpected if his/her classmates would tease him/her because of his/her mother's job. There is nothing wrong in striving hard to provide for the needs of her family. But I would really suggest she try to find a more decent job though may be a little more low paying. IF she is hurt being called such, then she should not do work like that... honestly. Sorry if this might hurt you but this is reality. The world is reality.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
No he shouldn't have been in there if that is how he felt about it. What makes him better when he was in there too??? Her job is tough and this is her only way of supporting her 5 month old baby. No one has the right to be rude no matter what job you have whether a dancer or a lawyer! No one is better than her. No one is better than anyone. We are all just trying to survive. Her daughter is a baby so no she doesn't have a clue what her mom is doing and thats why she is doing it to get on her feet before her daughter does become aware of the situation. No it's not going to have any affect on her daughter if she gets out of it before she is old enough to realize. Babies don't know what their mother does for a living...
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
Hi! I did not mean to be bad with what I said. Of course, I understand that if people have a better choice, they would not to do such. I just hope that she find a better job. About the baby, it will affect that baby. Even if she leaves the job before the baby starts to understand, it will still affect her daughter unless nobody would bring up this truth about her at all. What I'm pointing out though is as early as possible, try to get off that job. About the man, he was there looking for.. you know. This is the reason he knows not to respect anyone there.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
It didn't hurt me because it isn't about me. And your opinion is your opinion although I don't feel like you really know or understand the situation probably because you weren't thrown into the streets at a very young age while being pregnant and having to take care of yourself, have you? But like I said, that is your opinion and your entitled to it. I would never let my friend read this though because yeah she probably would be hurt by what you said...
• United States
14 Jul 11
I don't think it's right to go in there and say that to the dancers. People have no idea what kind of girls the dancers really are and just because they're dancers doesn't mean they're "loose". These dancers could be in tough situations and trying to make enough money to support themselves (like your friend). It's wrong to go in there and accuse them of something you really know nothing about. Yes, it can be seen as a job where girls can be a little loose with themselves but that doesn't mean everyone is the same exact way. Before this rude man came in and started judging the workers, he first should've known what kind of situations in a way, force girls to work there and to support themselves.
• Valdosta, Georgia
14 Jul 11
I agree with you. If he felt that way he shouldn't have gone in there in the first place. I felt so sorry for her. =( She is in a tough situation and she's doing the best she can do. That made me so angry! I wanted to beat him up for her, . There are some girls like that but not all of them are that way, your right about that.
• United States
14 Jul 11
Yeah, he really shouldn't have been in there if all he was going to do was insult the workers. I'm sure your friend is having a hard enough time as it is with her job, she doesn't need someone else to step in and make her feel worse. I give her a lot of credit for doing what needs to be done in order to pay for school and her child. I'm sure things will get better for her, she just has to stay strong :)
• Philippines
15 Jul 11
First of all, I salute your friend for getting a job, maintaining her honor and dignity in a job which is bound to be misunderstood, in order to support herself, her child, and her studies. Once she has other job opportunities, she should get out of this present job. Or she should try to become a talent scout or an impresario. I think Truman's advice that "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" also applies aptly to her. She should just thicken her skin in the meantime. Was the person rude? I don't know. If he was, then he ought to have been strongly rebuked by your friend. I can even sympathize with her if she could not but slap the person. But is it possible that the person may have had some feelings for your friend, and that he was just expressing his exasperation, although in a very rude way? And how about your friend? Does she have some feelings too for the guy, that's why she was hurt deeply when the person she has some regard for did not even ask her the circumstances of her engaging in this work and her superhuman efforts to maintain her dignity and honor in such an environment and her dream of finishing her studies and getting another job? Rudeness hurts, but rudeness from people we love hurts deeply, although easily understood and also easily forgiven. But it can cause hysterics and rivers of tears, like what your friend shed. But I may be wrong, Friend LovingMyBabies.
• Valdosta, Georgia
28 Feb 12
I agree that my friend is doing the best she can. From what she said the guy was very rude. She said the guy was about sixty years old so no she did NOT have any feelings for him. Lol. She is a pretty 23 year old. Unfortunately shes a lot like me which is probably why we get along so well because we get each other. Everything rude that is said to her hurts. Very sensitive. Complete strangers have made me cry too. We are over emotional I suppose... It is what it is I suppose.
@nb1104 (4)
15 Jul 11
I obviously was not there, but could he have been drinking?? That was the first thing that popped into my head while reading this. I really do not see any other explanation besides trying to be rude. People do that sometimes.
• Valdosta, Georgia
28 Feb 12
That could be the case. Thats why I cannot be around people that drink because they do not even know what their saying...This guy was an old grumpy man in my opinion.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
28 Feb 12
Your last question was the first one that came to my mind as I was reading this. Your friend does not sound cut out for this line of work and from what you say, it is clear that she is doing it for the money only. I actually think that a lot of them are in it for that reason. It's good money. To judge them that way and not knowing anything about them other than what they do for a living is wrong. Still, it is the nature of the game. Anyone in that type of work is going to get these negative comments even though they probably aren't true. Your friend needs to learn to ignore people like that. She KNOWS what she is and is not and so do those close to her and that is all that should matter.
@wongchoiyee (7413)
• Malaysia
14 Jul 11
I am sorry for your friend to gone through this thing. And I am also angry at the man for belting out those words. Come on God, I am just making a living. DOn't make my life harder:) Pray for your friend.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
Yeah I feel so bad for her. She is doing all she can do for her daughter to make her life better and this is what she gets for it. Sad.
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
14 Jul 11
Aww that's was an awful thing to say,I think anyone who would think it's ok to say something hurtful like that while at the same time being in the place they are judging is hypocritical and that person has some serious issues themselves I think rudeness is unnecessary no matter what a persons opinion is on your friends occupation, my goodness name calling and cursing at someone and outing them, oh my that was wrong of that person to do that, sorry that your friend had to deal with that. People can be so cruel, but dealing with mean rude people is just a sad part of life, I guess your friends is gonna have to grow a thicker skin in her line of work.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
Yeah I agree with you. Why would he be in a place that he has such strong feelings against? He apparently has major issues. Yeah she's going to have to toughen up if she wants to keep working there to support her daughter...
@lala501 (1532)
• United States
14 Jul 11
wow that was really rude! Yes i was wondering that myself what was that guy doing there in the first place?just to cause trouble?It is good that your friend would do anything to protect her family even if it means working at a job that she hates doing.She shouldn't listen to that man because he's obviously just a rude guy looking to cause trouble.good luck to your friend.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
I guess he was just in there to cause trouble which doesn't make him any better than anyone. Yeah I agree he should be ignored and hopefully he won't ever be seen in there again!
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
19 Jul 11
Just after college, and a few years after I started working, me and a few office mates of mine actually befriended some dancers from a local club. At first we were just being boys, always trying to get in their pants, but after a while we actually realize that they were decent people. Yes there were dancers, and non-dancers in the club who were really slu** and whor**, but not all of them. I don't think this guy had the right to paint everybody with the same brush.
• United States
14 Jul 11
It seems to me that the man has his own unresolved issues with women. Possibly an ex-wife who cheated on him? Clearly, he is bitter and has nobody at home waiting for him or else he would not be there to see women dancing simply to criticize them. I also know a few different dancers. All of them have unique situations. One in particular loves the money. She has been doing it for years, in a reputable place, has two children and a husband, but she continues because she makes a really good income. I know a few others that are single moms and are just trying to earn money for their child. This profession is not for everybody, but it is nobody's place to judge what another individual chooses. Your friend should dismiss this man's comment. He is insignificant in her life. Just view him as a motivating tool to continue to work hard and make money to finish school and give her child a better life. It does not matter what anyone else thinks.
• Valdosta, Georgia
15 Jul 11
That could very well be. He is definitely bitter and he probably is alone in life. Gee I wonder why, lol. My friend told me that a lot of the girls are putting themselves through college working there and some are single moms like her. They are from all walks of life. I did tell her to ignore comments like that and keep doing what she needs to do for her daughter...