Anti-christ Sets Shop in Houston

United States
July 24, 2011 2:11pm CST
Should a City or State or Nation be allowed to get to the point where it believes it has to keep constant track of the activities of its people? Currently in Houston, Texas, you cannot use computer at the public library without picture ID and cannot buy Metro bus fare from Metro offices to ride public transportation without picture ID. I believe such acts are display of extreme insecurity and acute paranoia. I think it is terrible that in a nation that is constantly touting its horn about democracy, people are no longer allowed to be. What is next? Force people to display ID on foreheads?
4 responses
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
25 Jul 11
Absolutely. In our country, the right of the people shall not be infringed by the Federal government. Thus if a city of people decide they wish to do whatever, that is their right. As an individual, you have the choice to leave that city, or vote someone into city office which reflects your views.
• United States
26 Jul 11
Andy77, do you really believe that in the US your vote is what makes the difference? Let me be the first to inform you that while we have a one vote per person and the majority wins system, we are only given the notion: The majority only wins when our votes aligns with that of the gods behind the scenes - big business and lobbyists.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
26 Jul 11
I don't believe in the 'gods'. I believe in A single God. Further I do not believe that God chooses to control every insignificant policy. He will intervene when He wishes, and nothing will thwart his plans. So in essence, I do believe that voting does matter.
• United States
27 Jul 11
Andy77, in the US, your vote only matters when it aligns with the votes of big business and lobbyists. There are countless instances in the US when the votes and/or wishes of the people meant nothing to government elected government officials seeking to be gods: 1). In 2000, we had a president who did not win the majority and obviously unqualified for the White House given to us, and because of whose acts - Patriot Act II and MEHPA - we no longer have any civil rights. 2). Current nationalized and mandatory health care is not result of wish of the people; 3). The US in currently in Libya killing and being killed against the wishes of the people and the majority of Washington DC. Need I list more? You are only given the notion that your vote counts. And hope you now realize the "gods" I mentioned above referred to big business and lobbyists, as I clearly stated.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
24 Jul 11
That's the rule at pretty much every library I've worked in. Libraries in most parts of the country are funded by local property taxes. If you want a library card you need to verify that you are a resident. Some libraries only allow residents to use the computers. Those that allow non-residents to use computers will sometimes ask for a picture ID to limit the usage of non-residents so they can only use the computer once. I don't see how any of this is reminiscent of an anti-christ. As for the metro bus fare. I would bet the ID is only necessary if you are getting a bus pass which in some areas is a photo ID itself.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
24 Jul 11
I just checked on the metro card. The only time you need ID is if you are getting a discounted card as a student, senior citizen so they can verify that you qualify for the discount. Otherwise, you don't need ID at all. In fact, if I wanted to I could order one online RIGHT NOW, without ID. https://www.ridemetro.org/FareInfo/RequestQCard/Webform.aspx You're wrong about library cards there too. There is no photo ID requirement. All they ask for is proof of address. "Library cards are free for everyone. You must provide proof of your mailing address when applying for a library card. " http://www.hcpl.net/about/library-cards Sure sucks when your entire thread is based on lies doesn't it?
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@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
25 Jul 11
Traskr you beat me to it. Not fair I say not Fair.
• United States
26 Jul 11
Taskr, I said computer card. I do not know about your City, but in Space City, one could have a library card (required for checking out library items) or just a computer card to use public library computer. To have a library card, you once only had to present proof of address - a photo ID or Voter registration card or bill receipt. You could also obtain a computer card for computer usage only without ID or even name required. A non-Houstonian could obtain computer card without question asked. That is no longer the case in Houston public libraries. Currently, you MUST present picture ID to obtain a library card or computer card. The agents allege new ordinance is to limit people from having multiple computer cards and using computers for more than two hours per day as allowed. While it is true that people could have multiple computer cards, I also know that the computer cards, like library cards, all have unique serial numbers, and are programmed to allow only 2 hours usage per day. You could and can still use up your 2 hours per day on library card and then 2 hours per day on your computer card, and so on. If I, for any reason, still want to use library computer for more than 2 hours, I can still do so. The point here is mandatory tracking of activities of library patrons. There were some folks (myself included) who never used library card for computer usage. Yes, I do not believe it is the government's darn business what I do online. The government is supposed to be managing and balancing budget of City, State or Nation, not minding my bloody business! Now they are telling folks that without the paranoid government peering into what we do, we cannot use library computers funded by taxpayers' monies!
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
24 Jul 11
PLEASE don't give them any ideas!!!
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
25 Jul 11
Even if it were true, I still don't understand the leap from providing proof of who you are to get something/somewhere to being forced to wear ID on your head. I've encountered a lot of people in my life who will throw out lines like "This is like Nazi Germany" or "Who am I? Rodney King?" That's all good and well. People get a little riled up in general. But that's as hyperbolic as your scenario claims the state is paranoid. There is the progression angle, which is always something to worry about. Like, for instance, letting government into health care more than they are and expecting them to get out. So it does make sense, in limited doses. Being tagged like cattle, however, and monitored while walking down the street and not being allowed to start cars without an eye scan or to sit down on a public toilet seat without VD screening first - I can't subscribe to that. I believe government does get a bit silly at times. Having to show a birth certificate, home mail, school records and a check stub, all to get an ID at the DMV, is something I find to be outrageous. But to me, that's just some red tape nonsense that too large a government created. I don't believe it is going to evolve into a Tom Cruise movie.
• United States
26 Jul 11
There were some folks (myself included) who never used library card for computer usage. Yes, I do not believe it is the government's darn business what I do online. The government is supposed to be managing and balancing budget of City, State or Nation, not minding my bloody business! Now they are telling folks that without the paranoid government peering into what we do, we cannot use library computers funded by taxpayers' monies! I remember accusing Metro in 2008 of electronic surveillance when it introduced the Q-card and instituted mandatory registration for replacement (even if rider may have unique serial number of lost card). Metro refused my allegation and said it would give rider option of not registering but rider would risk non-replacement if bus card is lost. We took risk. But sometime in 2010, metro stores in Downtown Houston stopped selling Q-cards with registration. Without a picture ID, metro staff in 1900 Main Street in Downtown Houston (the one of two metro Houston Downtown stores now selling Q-cards) will not sell you a Q-card. You are not going to put a mark on me! I will still buy, sell and conduct business, and all without the mark of the beast!