Two sides of the Soldiers' Coin

In the two sides of your discussion, there is the familiar thread of torture on both parties. And both parties are the both the inflicter of pain or the at the victim's side of the torture end. The only thing that this proves to me is that if one party can do a thing the other, the other party can also play the similar role without fuss. Though both sides are using torture, I think only one party is going to be accountable for the act. The military, while very honorable and a revered institution, has torture within its history and its mechanism. I believe that it is somewhat expected of them to endure torture or inflict to the enemy combatants. But there are at least being accounted for. Unlike the abu sayyaf rebels who can go hide in their mountains. Somewhat for me, it is unfair. But then that saying also goes in love and war. Though the torture tradition is embedded in the military, some will go out and say that information or revenge is not something that can be asked nicely out of a rebel. I don't like torture and I don't approve of it. But I know it serves its purposes, whether the intentions are good or bad.

hi, how sure are they that the person they got is an abusayaf and the torture thing, is that how they made this person say that he killed the seven soldiers? not a good thing. a tooth for a tooth is never the right answer. i dont know what is. i guess it is just conscience that these people should have - both berdugos and the killer. ann

Violence of any form is wrong, and look at from all perspectives-from the Abusayaff's (I don't know anything about this group) point of view - probably, the person who was tortured by the military is probably being considered a hero, a martyr for them? And what sort of military is it that resorts to torture, and more so the type of torture mentioned by you? Is it no better than the terrorists themselves? Is there no watchdog to watch over the watchdog? I have no clue about the political or the criminal situation in your country, I have just read your discussion, have not checked your profile to see which nation you are from. This is an impromptu spur of the moment response from a normal human based on the ghastly instances mentioned by you. No offense intended.

LetranKnight25, Let's just say that in war, there's no such thing such as conventional and definitely no respect to human life. I know that while it may seem dehumanizing at both ends but let's not be idealistic that there's some referees or umpires during a war to ensure that both sides observe the proper rules of engagement and the Warsaw Conventions on prisoners of war. All I can say, for this to end would mean for war to end completely.