I want a divorce!

By Toni
@toniganzon (72279)
Philippines
August 16, 2011 10:58pm CST
I just clicked i want it so that i could start this discussion. But read on and you'll know that i don't desire to get a divorce. Why not? First there's no divorce law in the Philippines but there's a bill already and it has been a hot issue and the source of a debate ever since. Second, even if there is a law in my country, i couldn't imagine not being with my husband. Just the thought of dissolving our marriage breaks my heart into pieces. Yes we had our ups and downs, quarrel here and there, serious fights, throwing bad words at each others sometimes, but not to the extent of really packing my things...NO CORRECTION.. packing his things and throwing it out of the house! But have i ever really thought of divorcing him? I have thought of it once when we were having one of those serious fights, not a divorce but a separation. But after a day, imagining that we were no longer husband and wife pained me a lot! So those thoughts were only thoughts that will not materialize at all. So sorry guys, i won't be available at all.
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18 responses
@sanofer (525)
• India
2 Mar 12
life is full of ups and downs and divorce will not end those ups and downs in life. divorce is just a separation between you two. but after divorce you will be separated but the thoughts about him will not go from you for sure. whatever you do,you will try to connect everything with him and you will start missing him badly. you cant think about the bad things he did for you. only the good deeds he did for you will flash in your mind. even though the bill is passed,don't try to do that stupid thing my dear sister:) secondly if you have kids it is a wrong time to appeal for divorce. this will affect the mentality of the kid. every kid want their parent to be united and not separated. so every parent should keep in mind about their kids future and they should lead a beautiful and peaceful life. try to go for a long walk with your husband and try to share some really beautiful memories of him. he will surely enjoy. if the girl is not intelligent the family will be messed up. we should play some tricks to keep our husband with us. hope you know all the strategies to make your husband happy and all the best for your beautiful life.
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@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
I'm not having some problems with him so i think divorcing him is far from my thoughts now.
@haopee (493)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Hi toni! You're lucky to have a wonderful husband who loves you. I've seen those scenarios of people throwing their partner's stuff out of the house because they were in a feat of rage. After awhile, they mend their differences and end up with a stronger relationship. On the other hand, regarding this issue on the Divorce Bill, I will admit even I want to have it push through because it will give women more power in their relationships. Having it passed doesn't mean that everybody should get a divorce. The sanctity of marriage is still a great responsibility of the couple and they should at least try all options before doing so such as couple therapy and living separately rather than fully terminating a bond made in front of God. For those who are saying that they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, the question lies, have you not done something wrong that you can no longer fix? The family comes first but what if the family is self-destructing because of two people who had made the wrong decision. We are humans, after all.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
For those who are saying they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place, i'd like to say they have made the wrong decision in getting married. Getting married they say is not a hot cake where you can spit it out when you get burned. It's more than just a commitment. People should learn the essence of marriage first before jumping into the bandwagon. Thanks for this nice response.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
22 Aug 11
Sorry if you have misunderstood but i'm in no predicament with my own marriage.
@haopee (493)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
You're welcome. I hope my response took you temporarily off your face predicament. Let's just hope that in the end, whatever the result is, people will consider that these type of issues - marriage and divorce- are not something to toy with and should be handled smartly and maturely.
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
Absolute divorce decree as I think should not be allowed here. It is never a solution to break marriages. Besides, it also destroys the true meaning of marriage. I ove what you said, you may have that imperfect marriage, but you find ways to cope things. That is actually the significance of the vows. Divorce is just another escape from obligations. It loses the meaning of marriage.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
But i couldn't live with someone who cheats on me. I would really resort to that one if my husband would.
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@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
I too hates a cheating partner. But, I guess, divorce is not the solution. You know why? Divorce has many consequence, not just merely terminating the marriage. If the marriage is dissolved, your status returns as when you are single, hence, no support and properties are divided. If the husband cheats, then let him suffer the consequence and not you or the kids. You can file a concubinage against him and the mistress. You as the injured person will still have the rights on support as the legal wife and rights on the properties. Besides, he has cheated, then why let him enjoy with his misbehaviors? they should learn a lesson and not let them escape from the obligation. If divorce is legal here, and there exists a cheating partner. The divorce decree is their escape and the injured person will remain the injured one.
@maean_19 (4655)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Hello again Toni, What I meant with my previous comment is that divorce is not the solution, of course it is situational and depending on the reason. Yes, indeed a divorced person, the wife specifically can claim support and as a consequence of the divorce have a division of property. However, my very point is the long term effect, if we say, the husband is the provider and the wife is a mere housewife. There are several division of property that governs. Lucky for the wife if what governs is absolute community of property which is a 50-50 sharing. What if, it is not about it? With regards to the concubinage, yes indeed it is difficult to prove that offense compared to adultery, but my point is that will the cheating husband learn a lesson if there is divorce? He won't. If I am the wife of a cheating husband, I would have to fight for my right as the legal wife. If I file for divorce, that is giving a right for my husband and his mistress the right to marry. Therefore, I would be in the losing end.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
23 Aug 11
when i got separated with my first wife, i thought about divorce. but at that time and until this time, divorce is not available in the country. i would love to see divorce finally accepted in the country. but on the second thought, i hope it will not pass the chamber. do you mean that if divorce is available at the time you had the serious fight, you could have divorced him?
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
24 Aug 11
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
23 Aug 11
NO i couldn't. We didn't even get to the part where i pack his things and throw it out of the house! But if i can find better who can be a substitute why not?
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
I agree with you. Even if there will be divorce, i do not think i will go and file for one. There are a lot of ups and downs in a marriage but i think it is a matter on how to solve it and in my case, we are both willing to solve it no matter what.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
oh yes i forgot to think about that one..hahaha i am also in agreement with you on this one.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
One exception! I cannot tolerate infidelity. So once he cheats on me, i'm gone forever!
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
18 Aug 11
I think you must banish vigorously any idea about divorce. You've a family and they need you. On these days the world need strong and united families.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
As i've said, it's something that i won't resort too unless my husband cheats on me or lay a finger on me! Other than that, divorce has no room in my life!
@Rick1950 (1575)
• Lima, Peru
18 Aug 11
Wow! You're commenting really quickly. You can type very fast!
• India
23 Aug 11
Nice post! But I wonder why your country doesn’t have a divorce law yet!!! Maybe in one way it is good for your society. Fifty years back, couples still had their issues, women still were browbeaten but they still carried on with the good and bad in life. Nobody thought of divorce, it was such a taboo. Now that it is legal and commonplace in many nations, couples don’t want to compromise, sacrifice and give each other time and space…separation is the quickest and least messy solution for many. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Being a working woman and a mother, I know how difficult it is for me to juggle everything…most of the time I’m stressed out and irritated with life. My husband, coming from traditional upbringing, doesn’t really feel it necessary to help me in household chores. I’ve shouted, I’ve sworn, I’ve cried but I’ve never ever imagined separation…it just doesn’t figure in my scheme of life.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
It's the religion that's holding back the law makers from making divorce legal in our country. Though many people nowadays are really clamoring for it since annulment is very strict. Not sure if our country and the married couples here are ready for divorce yet.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
17 Aug 11
Hi Toni! Your approach is very saner and practical. You are very right that couples keep fighting on various issues and they also hold different opinions on a single issue. Fighting with each other or disagreeing with each other does not mean that we should go for separation or divorce. Like you, I also shudder at the thought of divorce and never allow these kind of strange thoughts to come in my mind. If any time things turn too bad, I will leave no stone unturned to save my marriage. I feel that divorce is not a solution to our disagreement with our partner.
@dpk262006 (58675)
• Delhi, India
17 Aug 11
I agree with you that 'cheating' could be something very grave and it could lead to extreme step. (I wish and am sure this will never happen with you because you are a wonderful wife and nice woman).
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
It's something that i'm not just comfortable and wouldn't even go there. But to be honest if my husband would cheat on me, i have to give up on that marriage because that would be the biggest sin for me. I consider it a greatest insult to me as a wife and as a woman!
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
18 Aug 11
I was married and divorced and no regrets. My husband was abusive and while I loved his good points which he definitley did have, I could not live with the abuse and I did not want my girls to witness it and think for a minute that it was ok to put up with abuse. I do honestly think divorce is too easy and people rush into it way too quickly but all in all, I am glad that it is available. I just think that people should take more time and think things thru before entering marriage and I think they should do the same when thinking of exiting it. It's not so much the laws as it is the people's values and how much they value the relationship itself. I did not enter into my marriage with thoughts that if it didn't work out, I could just get a divorce. I really loved my husband and had a lot of convictions. I did not choose divorce lightly either nor in a moment of anger. I put up with a lot and gave it every chance I felt possible. I was raised Catholic as well and I gave up the church but I did it for my children. I don't have any regrets in that. I really don't want to belong to a church that thinks I should put up with abuse and that my daughters should witness that and see their father in that light.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Like what i've responded in the above discussion, i could opt for divorce if my husband would lay a finger on me (hands is too much, finger would be enough! ) or if he cheats on me. Those are the only two things that could make me file a divorce if it would be available in my country. I was born and baptized a Catholic but i chose not to be. I go to a non-Dominican church. And i'm happy for what you have decided in your life. One without regrets.
@kingparker (9673)
• United States
18 Aug 11
Maybe one or two serious fights that makes us disappointed at our significant others, but when you come to think about it, you might realize how silly that was. We shouldn't fight at the first place, and we shouldn't develop such silly thought on breaking up, or getting divorce. Sorry for your disagreement with your hubby, hopefully you both make it up for each other.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Fights are necessary sometimes as they are still forms of communication as long as you know how to settle them before you go way down deep. AFter the fight i find my relationship with my husband growing stronger.
@didi13 (2926)
• Romania
14 Feb 12
We found between thoughts and feelings telling how much separation hurts. We found between time and times as much suffering heart. The answers are not hard in the swamp where all the folly lies. The real treasure of hidden paths to the highest of your beauty. Just as every rose has at least one spin, like every night has at least one starry morning star and your life is at least a hope, a ray of light even if you close your eyes. No you can end the show. No one will have power to keep you behind the scenes to pull ropes for someone else to take your role in your life spotlight. Do what's best for YOU!
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
Yeah i agree. I must do what's good for me. But as of the moment divorce is something that's not good for me.
@katrinapaz (2436)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
i think that is a good marriage. you are able to stick with your partner through ups and downs and in sickness and in health. that is the reason why i dont like the divorce bill, people may become reliant on that and when just one little fight or misunderstanding and they are not able to cope up they may use it to end a sacred rite.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Yes it is prone to abuse, especially in a country like ours where our notion of divorce is very immature.
@cow_boy29 (236)
• United States
17 Aug 11
please thinking again to divorce has many affected to your family including in big affect in your child
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
Sorry but i couldn't seem to understand what you want to tell me.
17 Aug 11
i think it's.. "please think again before you get a divorce as it can have an affect on your family, especially on your child"
• United States
17 Aug 11
Wait so if you did want a divorce you couldn't get it because the law isn't passed? I know what you mean about having ups and downs and fighting? I've only once thought about divorcing my husband and that was when we were fighting for 2 months, it was a really long fight. It happend about a year ago, but I can't stand to be away from my love, I love him so much, I want to be with him forever, grow old with him, and die with him. I want to make a family with him to. I love him.
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
Of course i couldn't get a divorce because there is no law yet and i doubt if the divorce bill will be approved because of the Catholic church. 80% of the people in my country are catholics and this church has a lot of say in everything the government does and they don't care about the Constitutional mandate separation of church and state!
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
Why bother to get a divorce when you love someone so dearly? though if you cant stay in the marriage, better yet to get some space and time to be separated for a while and think about it. Divorce is not just about the law but a personal decision. We have annulment in the Philippines which is almost comparable to divorce but it is costly too. If u cant make it a husband and wife then maybe you could be a parent at least.
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
Hello Toni, My chance of me getting married will never come true if this bill is passed into law. marriages will be doubtful beyond recognition. look what's happening to other countries, using marriage as a tool to get into the country just to be a citizen and then once they are resident, then they divorced who ever they married to. have a nice day
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
That's not real marriage at all. And i think it won't be possible here in our country because of how marriage is defined under the civil code. I know it could be amended but then it's something that i just don't want to be abused.
@thesids (22180)
• Bhubaneswar, India
17 Aug 11
Hi toni i couldn't imagine not being with my husband. I believe that is the secret of a good marriage. I 100% believe in this as I cannot imagine myself without my wife. Some say that this attitude is quite bad but I see that it is quite positive and gives me almost everything that I can give into to maintain this relationship. Fights, quarrels happen in almost every relationship and They add some love and spice in the relationship (if you take those positively). I am so happy that you are my friend
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
17 Aug 11
That's something that i would never consider bad at all. It's not like we are dependent to our spouse but it's the love that keeps us imprisoned in their hearts. We are romantic fools! The truth is i like fighting once in awhile as it does add spice to our marriage and i noticed that after those fights, the longing to be with each other increases. I'm happy that you are my friend too!
@maplewen (25)
• China
18 Aug 11
yeah,you must have some uneasy adult problems to be sovled,but my advice is you should better take more thinking of you child.in your picture,your kid is so cute,i thinke that he would not like to see his mom and dad breaking.in china,couples realize that thay have responsbilities not only to their swearing but also to their child,although we have divorce item in marriage law.i think that you and your husband share the same view with us,best wishes!
@toniganzon (72279)
• Philippines
18 Aug 11
OH dear it's something that i would never do! And i'm pretty sure my husband won't give me a reason to make me decide to leave him.
@dilrajj57 (1757)
• Pakistan
1 Mar 12
why now you want to fresh some one?