How bad are the Republican candidates?

United States
September 27, 2011 11:48am CST
Even I was surprised that people are calling for Chris Christie to get into this race. I thought that Rick Perry was the answer, but apparently not. Now it looks like Chris Christie is going to be the answer. But, very few are talking about what Herman Cain did this weekend, or that Ron Paul has finished near the top of all of these straw polls (yet according to the polls trails Newt Gingrich, do you really believe that?). So are the current candidates that bad, or are the Republicans just trying to find ANYONE besides these guys?
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• United States
27 Sep 11
The Republican party seems to be made up of such a smorgasbord of opinions that it's probably going to be difficult to find someone that everyone can agree on, and someone who can beat Obama. It surprises me that the polls show that Obama leads most of the Republican candidates when his approval rating is so low, but I suppose some believe it's better to keep what you know than maybe get a pig-in-a poke. Even so, I don't know why anyone would want him reelected.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
27 Sep 11
Precious we did get a-pig-in-a-poke when Obama was elected.
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• United States
27 Sep 11
6precious, part of the problem is that so many people in the republican party either like one and don't like the others, or don't like any of them at all. I will vote to re-elect Obama unless Ron Paul leaves the GOP and runs as an independent. I just don't think that any of the republican candidates would be better than Obama.
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@oXAquaXo (607)
• United States
28 Sep 11
I still support Obama as our president. I think that the only reason why so little has been done is because of the ridiculous Republican majority in Congress that blocks every single thing he does. If it hadn't been for the block resulting in the budget crisis, our credit wouldn't have downgraded, we wouldn't be having government shutdowns, and things would be a lot smoother. Although, I don't agree with everything Obama has done, especially with the Pakistan stuff recently. But I would rather him be president than ANY Republican, especially the retards that are running this year.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
29 Sep 11
Well, first there's Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. After that, they run the gammit from "meh...sorta kinda not as bad as dropping rocks on your foot" to "OH GOOD GOD NO!" Honestly, this is likely even worse than the last round of Republican candidates we had. We have the standard issue republicans, Romney, Sanatorium, Gingrich, et al. Then there is the Tea Party crowd- Bachman, Cain, etc...all posing as libertarians but are nothing more than standard issue Republicans with a touch of religious ideologue (I don't need to be protected from religious extremists by more religious extremists, thank you) who are very selective in their constitutional fidelity and philosophies of liberty. Foot note. There was a poll done on Fox news's website. the results came in overwhelmingly for Ron Paul. The same day, the poll disappeared from the site. The sad fact is that no republican that the party "Illuminati" or Fox news doesn't want is going to win the nomination. I will likely be voting for the Libertarian party candidate this election.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
29 Sep 11
There was a similar poll on CNN's website a month ago. All links to it were deleted from their site when Ron Paul got over 60%.
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• United States
29 Sep 11
X, did you see where Gingrich was polling higher than Paul? I couldn't believe ANYONE would vote for him since his marital issues that he had. I agree that it is a very weak list, and Paul and Johnson don't have a chance to actually get nominated. I think I have a better chance than those two!! I think that polls have become useless, and we need to totally ignore them, and the people that make millions doing them.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
28 Sep 11
Perry has been the governor of our great state for a long time, so I never considered him to be the answer. And then there is Romney, who is quick to change his stand on the issues which ruled him out for me. Personally I like Herman Cain quite a bit, but I am not sure he will be able to get enough support to win the nomination. Maybe the fact that Perry and Romney seem to be the two that are most likely to win the nomination is exactly why they are looking for more options.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
2 Oct 11
I guess some people are talking about him, he did after all win a straw poll last week. Plus if the media was not so biased as to try and decide that the winner needed to be either Romney or Perry, then there might be more out there to read and hear about him. Sorry, but the media plays too many games with the candidates and really makes me mad.
• United States
28 Sep 11
I can understand that, I don't like any of them, more because of what they will have to do to be elected. I like Ron Paul, but he would have to change who he is to get elected, and that would change how I feel about him. I really don't know to much about Herman Cain, but you don't hear ANYONE talk about, but he keeps on looking better because the other top candidates aren't looking good at all.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
28 Sep 11
Imagine a Millionaire Republican President who would not raise taxes to save his country, with his hand on the flush handle ready to flush America down, to save his bank account and the accounts of his friends.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
The sad part is that you could remove the republican part, and it would be true. Although Obama has said that he wants to raise his own taxes, he has, and didn't when he could have. Funny how the rich take care of their own, no matter what party they are in.
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@elmiko (6630)
• United States
28 Sep 11
they're all quite bad in my opinion besides Mitt Romney. Romney seems like a good person from what i can see and i might vote for him. the others i don't care too much for though. Rick Perry for him is a been there done that type of candidate. Hes George W. Bush 2.0. Just another governor from Texas is enough to not get me to vote for him. Everything that seems to come out of Michele Bachmanns mouth just about doesn't seem to be accurate. yeah right, $2 a gallon of gas. Maybe if we go into another recession then yeah we will have $2 a gallon gas. More then anything I'm just interested in having politicians working as a team when it comes to all parties. I hope they all lose their next election so there can be some fresher faces in to try and get things done. I may give vote for Romney though. Obama's still good in my view. its just no one will work with him.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
I am not a big Mitt fan because of his inability to show he has a spine. He is also to polished for me personally. I don't even know if republicans will work with republicans right now. I do agree that we need to get different people in office.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
27 Sep 11
The Republican candidates are not 'bad'. They are 'typical' of politicians. The country right now is faces the consequences of years of believing we can borrow our way out of over spending. Unfortunately we are at an impasse. The left has borrowed our way into a hole. This is forcing Republicans in a situation where the public doesn't want to cut spending, but at the same time we simply can't increase borrowing. So the current crop of Republicans can't answer questions because whatever the answer, people will be mad. If they answer they simply need to borrow more money, their faced with how to deal with Americans unsustainable Obama deficit of $1.6 Trillion. If they answer we need to cut welfare, social security, medicare and so on, then everyone gets pissed because they want all their free programs. I dared to point out that Social Security was broke, and people came out of the woodwork to slam me for trying to "scare seniors" and such. People don't want to hear the truth. They are willing to believe almost anything but how the situation really is. So of course the politicians don't have an answer. It really doesn't matter who the Republicans ran. They could pick a communist, a Stalinist, a Nazi, a Democrat of any flavor or ideology... no one can say the truth, and thus they can't answer those questions honestly, because they won't be elected. The last person to tell the truth was GWB, and everyone hated him for it. Instead you accused him of lying about it, and making up stuff. None of which valid. People want lies. That's why Republicans are not answering questions and you say they are bad.
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• United States
27 Sep 11
Andy, I hate to tell you this, but Bush didn't leave the office with a budget surplus (he inherited one, but left with that LONG gone, to his rich supporters). As I recall republicans had no problem spending money when they controlled the entire government. Remember we didn't need to pay for those two wars!!! I like how you call it "Obama's deficit" seeing how Bush left office with a huge deficit himself, but you forgot that. Also funny how I remember a time when we had a social security SURPLUS, but Bush didn't have the intelligence to see beyond his own nose, and spent that money on tax cuts. Remember the Social Security "lock box"? I don't think I ever heard a word out of GWB's mouth that I would believe (nor would COLIN POWELL, I think I am in good company with HIM on my side!!!!). I would love to hear what you THINK I have "making up stuff" about GWB. I promise I can provide links to anything I have said about GWB, and they will be credible.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
27 Sep 11
Yes, actually we did need to pay for those two wars. If Obama had a 400 Billion dollar deficit right now, which is what Bush left him with... then you'd be right. Unfortunately, we have a $1.6 Trillion dollar deficit. Now if you want to be technically accurate, we can call it a $1.2 Trillion Obama, and $400 Billion Bush Deficit. That's fine too. It still makes that idiot in office look far worse than Bush ever was. And beyond that, if you really think that Bush's $400 Billion deficit was horrible, then why hasn't Obama eliminated it? And no excuses please. You can't blame Bush for a $1.6 trillion dollar deficit that Obama created. Remember the stimulating bill that didn't stimulate but clearly caused debt? That was ALL Obama. No excuses. Thanks. I don't think I ever heard a word out of GWB's mouth that I would believe (nor would COLIN POWELL, I think I am in good company with HIM on my side!!!!). I would love to hear what you THINK I have "making up stuff" about GWB. I promise I can provide links to anything I have said about GWB, and they will be credible. You just proved my whole point. Thanks for playing. Score one for me.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
Andy, I am not claiming they BOTH were not needed, but the war in Iraq was not needed, and it took lies to get us into it. If you need to lie to people to get them to go along with you, than it is obvious we shouldn't do it. The problem is that once you are there it is very difficult to get out with our putting our troops in danger. Funny how Bush blamed Clinton for the recession for four years, Obama has only been doing it for three. Bla, Bla, Bla, wake me when you have something intelligent to say!!! I have been give links from factcheck.com from right wingers, and they claim it is correct. I can find more links to this if you like. Andy, you have yet to prove to me that you can back up what you "think", and I don't agree with it either. But, it is a free country and you can "think" what you want, but I will continue to question it.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
27 Sep 11
At first I thought Perry was going to be the answer but the more I learn of him the less I like him. I also wanted Romney back in 08. I thought we needed a person with business experience. I was again Obama when I learned he supported partial birth abortion when he was a Senator. All he has done is threaten vetos and give stump or campaign speeches. Christie has said he will not run but some don't seem to believe him. I think he would be good. But some have been putting pressure on him to run. He has said again today that he will not run. I like Herman Cain batter than the others so far.
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• United States
27 Sep 11
You see why the party is so divided, there are so many candidates that the winner may not be able to bring the entire party together. You have so many contrasting personalities, and political ideas that it is almost impossible to bring everyone together. The other problem is that if Ron Paul does finally leave the GOP and run as an independent then it may divide the entire party, and leave Obama with a large majority.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
27 Sep 11
Well the party and the media have two different agendas, although both are looking for a similar result. They both want a candidate that can win and won't change the status quo. Ron Paul can definitely win a general election, and Herman Cain might be able to, but both would also change the status quo if they were elected. The media WANTS our hand in nearly every government on the planet. They like knowing that there's a chunk of the US in 130 countries across the globe. When someone like Ron Paul talks about cutting back on that, he becomes a threat to the media. Suddenly he's an isolationist for not wanting to control other governments. He believes in free trade, but the last thing the media, or the RNC wants, is for you to know what free trade actually is. That's why you'll never see clips of him explaining how the "free trade" agreements we have with certain countries are actually managed trade. The RNC doesn't control either of them. If the party can't control them, the party doesn't want them in the white house. McCain sold out in 2008 to get the republican nomination. Romney has shown that he's more than willing to sell out on any and every issue to win. In Rick Perry's case, he's actually consistent enough that selling out wouldn't be as obvious in his case as it is in Romney's. Chris Christie will not run. I don't think the RNC would want him either. He's a libertarian and far too independent for them. People want him to run though because he's governor of a state so far to the left it borders on communism at times. Even in a state as left wing as New Jersey he's managed to balance the budget without tax hikes, fund the pension for government employees that was raided by his predecessor, and actually make difficult choices that upset some people because he knows the end result is worth it. After all that his approval still stays above 50% despite constant campaigns by the unions bashing him. I know, because as a county employee, I get these stupid union emails all the time.
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• United States
27 Sep 11
I agree that everyone is afraid of Ron Paul and Herman Cain because they can't control either of them. I don't think it is the media that wants our hands in ever government, I think that is our parties, and the government in general that wants something to hold over other countries. It is much like republicans believe about democrats supporting our welfare system: If you keep them dependent, than you can control them. Some have said that we are basically buying friends in foreign governments. McCain actually sold out in 2004 when he could have ran with Kerry, and they probably would have beat Bush. That cemented his 2008 nomination.
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@bestboy19 (5478)
• United States
27 Sep 11
I think the republicans are trying to find another Ronald Reagan and all of these candidates are, as they say, weighed in the balance and found wanting.
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• United States
28 Sep 11
I think you are correct Best, or the RNC is looking at 2016, and hoping that the economy gets worse. Which could be possible.
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@oXAquaXo (607)
• United States
28 Sep 11
TheGreatDebater, I still support Obama and think he's a great president. There are many things I wish he could have done differently, but overall, I'd pick him over any other candidate. He knew his approval rating would go down after being elected, because he knew that it would take a while before the economy would go back up. And I know a lot of Americans are frustrated right now because they have lost their jobs, but the fact is, getting the economy to where it should be, after Bush completely obliterated it, is not as easy as that. It will take a while for his plans to take effect, and it will take a while before every starts feeling their impacts. The Republican candidates this year are pathetic. Really. Rick Parry? First of all, after Bush, I don't know if I can trust anyone from Texas anymore. The stuff he says is ridiculous, and he doesn't seem to know what he's doing or what side he's on. Mitt Romney is the "businessman" of the group, and I would be skeptical if he became president, because for one, I don't believe in conservative values about the economy, with the trickle-down theory and everything. And I think he's just going to focus on businesses and the upper class, and cause more problems to the economy. Michele Bachmann is simply the next Sarah Palin: she wants to get rid of the minimum wage and all taxes. Ron Paul is the only guy that's OK...he's a libertarian and supports some liberal policies, which I like. And the rest...they'll just never win.
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