Fat Taxes?

Omagh, Northern Ireland
October 2, 2011 5:20pm CST
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/02/denmark-fat-tax-obesity Denmark just introduced a "Fat Tax" to help combat obesity as a problem in their society..It's being Levied on Butter,Pizza,and Crisps (Chips,in the US!) among other items with what's considered to be high levels of saturated fats..(2.3%,I think it mentions in the linked article) How it's going to affect fast food outlets wasn't mentioned..I see other countries have similar measures already in place or in the pipeline..rumours of pizza stockpiling were mentioned..could you see this happening where You Live? Or is it already happening?
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
2 Oct 11
This is the natural result of government run health care. Now that statement seems like it doesn't fit with the topic, but here's how it works. When you make health care a duty of the state, and the state has to pay for people to get treated, suddenly the public as a patient are no longer a customer. Instead patients are a problem. You're an issue that is causing the state a problem. See, if you pay for your own health care, then you can live your life in whatever way you choose, and it does not cause anyone a problem, but yourself. Because you pay the bill. But if government pays the bill, now the choices you make are costing the state money. So now the state has more incentive to control how you live, dictate what you eat, ban various things you do. Why? Because if you fall down and break a leg, it cost the state money. If you smoke, and get lung cancer, it cost the state money. If you eat yourself into obesity, and get diabetes, you cost the state tons of money. So the state has to become dictator over your life, in order to either recoup the cost through taxation of the actions that cause problems, or ban them completely. Yet another reason I am against government health care.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Oct 11
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
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• Adelaide, Australia
3 Oct 11
Me too. Well said!
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• Adelaide, Australia
3 Oct 11
Now there's a point.
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@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
2 Oct 11
I watched this on the news last night. They don't think it will make much difference at all over there. In all the shots of Danish people I've ever seen, none look obese to me. On the contrary, most look quite slim! The people believe there are other measures that would have been more effective. I do think it's a step in the right direction though, even if it isn't applied in the correct way. Along with the tax, they should be promoting & subsidizing healthier alternatives & pointing out exactly what is so very wrong with saturated fats that we should avoid them. I wish the idea would be implemented down here. We're still the most heavily taxed nation on earth, so if they wanted to add yet another tax, it wouldn't be a problem!
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Oct 11
Oh,crap..Not Danish pastries too?!
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@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
2 Oct 11
What about the Danish pastries, will we still get them over here? I am worried
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• Adelaide, Australia
2 Oct 11
They can make them with unsaturated fats & oils - thus avoiding the tax?
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
2 Oct 11
Personally, this is yet another example of government trying to invade into our personal lives, where they really have no place or right. Why should they have the right to try to stop people from buying food items, whether they are considered healthy or not...I mean come on, in moderation what is the problem? This seems like the government is definitely overstepping its bounds in my opinion.
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
3 Oct 11
Does Denmark have a big obesity problem? (Pardon the Pun..)
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
2 Oct 11
When you consider that because they have universal health care, the government has to pay out the nose to treat people who over-eat.... this is a natural result.
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• Adelaide, Australia
3 Oct 11
I think this issue came up in the USA when Michelle Obama wanted to introduce more healthy food into peoples diets. Part of her argument was that the Standard American Diet (SAD) posed a massive threat to national security because too many otherwise fine individuals were far too overweight to join the military. Therefore the government "had to" intervene in the interests of national security.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Oct 11
seems to me that plain old better health education for people in all countries would be better as this could be funded for saving people from diabetes and hear attacks and strokes. to tax the food seems too extreme but to educate people on how to eat well and still eat healthy would be money best spent. people will just simply resent the fat tax and will not make needed changes.But of they were educated to make what they like to eat healthier and still make it taste good glory hallelujah. people would be a lot happier about making the necessary changes in their diets themselves.
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@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
2 Oct 11
Oh Christ this is crazy. There are talks of a sugar tax over here! anything that contains sugar. Maybe we should just knock off all the obese people and then see what happens
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Oct 11
That's the hunger talking..get this guy some fast food,STAT!
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Oct 11
I know..Let's make Soy Lentil Burgers..Good Food,Good People...
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@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
2 Oct 11
Mike I just realised this discussion was posted in politics lol. I see Shepard and yourself and thought I would say hello lol. Mike diet is one thing but ya have to know how to burn it off. I have lost lots of weight with just being active. 34 inch waist now down to a 30 and I dont like it
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@petersum (4522)
• United States
2 Oct 11
Doesn't Denmark own Greenland? It must be the seal blubber that they want to tax! Don't look now but seal powered cars are about to be invented.
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
2 Oct 11
How about Lipo power?
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
4 Oct 11
Funny they didn't bother reading up on the facts of butter. It's better for you as is other animal fats. It isn't the butter-it's the carbohydrates that make you fat. If people had any sense they would eat more red meat, butter, and fill up on veggies. But people have believed the nonsense.
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5 Oct 11
Wow! That would be mental! I am not sure if the UK government would manage to impose it but, I guess if they did then we would have to live with it! They must want to stop obesity really bad to have come up with that scheme
@mamasaid (156)
• United States
7 Oct 11
Governments are trying to pick our pockets in any possible way and try to make it seem like it's for our own good. It's prejudice and dictatorial. It is up to each individual to decide what to eat. This doesn't help people, it just raises revenue. Education, support, better access to healthy foods that are affordable are the real solutions. Government officials are not as worried about public health as they are about finding ways to get money. Soon it will be the air we breathe.
• Indonesia
3 Oct 11
you mean government use tax to make people more slim...wow... is there any problem with fat/obese person there...is like the goverment hate them lol... i dont know...being fat is not bad i think...(im too slim..and love to have a more fat) big is beautiful too i think :)
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@jammyPaul (101)
• Taiwan
3 Oct 11
Fat tax is rare and ridiculous idea in Asia. I have stayed in Asia in few years and never saw this problem. Fat tax is an unique problem for the country who has the culture that prefers high oil and high fat food. When you have chance to come to Asia, no matter you are in Japan or Korea, you would find out their test of cuisines is not that sweet and oil as American food. Also, the Asian people does not take pizza or burgers as often as Westerners. I would rather think that such problem is varied from culture to culture. Pizza and hamburgers are came from America and Europe. So, it's not surprised to see the government wants to use tax to stop the fat infection.
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