Rich gets richer new study shows…
By sirnose
@sirnose (2436)
United States
October 27, 2011 4:37pm CST
The rich have gotten richer over the last three decades, and the very rich have gotten very richer, far outpacing the middle class, according to a new government study. Like we didn’t already know that there was a wide gap between rich and poor. Something the Tea Partiers and the Republicans continue to ignore.
That right! “The rich created the low income jobs which keep them rich and the working saps underwater. This is why Mr. Obama and Demos are trying to correct some of this inequality whereas the Tea Partiers and Republicans are bellying aching and trying to protect the status quo.
The report claimed the exact causes of the rapid income growth of the richest Americans are not clear, but the research did speculate on some reasons: soaring salaries of superstar actors, athletes and musicians, more liberal executive compensation, and the growth of the financial sector. We need not wonder why there are Americans occupying Wall Street anymore.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
28 Oct 11
Those studies are a load of crap for one simple reason. The poor who DO become richer are no longer considered poor. Where do you think Herman Cain fits in for example? He was poor. He got richer. What about rich people who were decimated by the economy? What about the 2.5 MILLION millionaires that were lost in the crash of 2008? When we talk about the rich getting richer, we ignore them. They're not millionaires anymore. The people who STAYED millionaires got richer, but we'll just ignore the former millionaires the same way we ignore the former poor people.
Statistics like this aren't going to show that. They're only going to show income changes for poor people that still remain poor and changes for rich people who remain rich because they are going by income categories, not by the people who have gone from one category to another either up or down.
Regardless, poor people have the opportunity to get rich. If a poor black man, who grew up in times when racism was common and accepted, can become the CEO of Godfather's pizza during the 2nd worst economic crash in the country's history and become a millionaire, than I don't see what valid excuses anyone can pull for why they have remained poor. Nobody DESERVES to be rich, you have to work hard and earn it.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Oct 11
Why do you insist on lumping everyone together based on personal income? You can't have class warfare without blatant bigotry.
I'm not well connected, but I've both gotten ahead in life, and fell behind.
Capitalism does have greedy people, but socialism and communism are nothing but greedy people.
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@sirnose (2436)
• United States
28 Oct 11
This proves my point that capitalism is nothing but a joke, and a instrument for the rich and powerful. How does it hurt me you ask ParaTed2k?
Because this system we call capitalism is one sided and if you are not well connected you cannot get ahead in this capitalist system.
Why do you keep protecting these den of thieves? You must be making out like a bandit in this corrupt only for the rich greedy bast**ds. You must live in a cave ParaTed2k,
why do you think these people are protesting in the streets of America? Against Wall Street and this corrupt capitalist system. ...
Because this system we call capitalism is one sided and if you are not well connected you cannot get ahead in this capitalist system.
Why do you keep protecting these den of thieves? You must be making out like a bandit in this corrupt only for the rich greedy bast**ds. You must live in a cave ParaTed2k,
why do you think these people are protesting in the streets of America? Against Wall Street and this corrupt capitalist system. ...
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
28 Oct 11
I wonder if this government study also mentions that politicians now make exponentially more than they made three decades ago.
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@KrauseHome (36445)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Well personally things are continuing to get worse with Jobs, housing, expenses etc. to where unless you are well off you struggle, and I don't see how anyone Democrat or republican can help change things. Live in WA state and you will see having a Democrat for governor is hurting us more than helping, so I think unless you get some people in offices to start caring about Americans as a whole there is no hope.
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@sirnose (2436)
• United States
29 Oct 11
How can we elect politicians that are for the people when Corporate America have every last one of them in their pockets?
The only way things will change when we the people demand reforms of our institutions. Terms limits would help some but the career politicians will not vote for this.

@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
28 Oct 11
I am sure that all of the right wingers on here will say that this is a good thing, and that it is how it should be. The problem is that they are getting richer not by creating different products, or innovating, but by buy elected officials, and change they system so they can make more money. These actions are hurting the country, and the economy. Individual investors are afraid to get into the market because they know that it NOT set up for them to succeed, but for them to lose money, while the big boys make money. Our system is not capitalism, it is the closest thing to a dictatorship this country has ever come.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
28 Oct 11
So you don't think that Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, or Mark Zuckerburg have created different products or innovated? Preach the left wing drivel all you like, but without those rich people we wouldn't have the technological advancements we now enjoy daily. You know as well as I do that thanks to them, even poor and homeless people get to have internet access, computer usage, and ways to communicate with people all over the world for free.
If you don't think it's free for poor or homeless people, just go to your local library and you'll see I'm right. Look and see how many computers Bill Gates has given to libraries across the country for free that poor and homeless people get to use.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
29 Oct 11
Taskr, First off Jobs was the only one that created something, Gates used the contacts from his family, and knowledge from his friends to create Microsoft. And, we all know that Zuckerburg didn't create facebook, he took someones idea, and stole it. But, it is the perfect example of American Capitalism. And although Jobs did create new products, he was far from a great American, building most of his products in China, at a complex where the employees are so unhappy they had to close off the roof because so many people were jumping off the roof that the government forced them to close it.
I have no idea how many Bill has donated, but I also know that this comes from the man that said that the internet was a fad, and has admitted that he was his biggest mistake not taking the internet seriously. I am sure that Bill Gates is making money some how off of those units.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
27 Oct 11
That is about right, the top 1% richest and wealthiest individual are getting their income increase at the rate of 400% per year in the past decade. While the middle income group are only have their wealth increase at a rate of about 40-60 % annually. The low income group remain unchange. It is nothing out of the ordinary judging from the massive bail out of wealthy individual owned corporation by government and the extremely generous tax rate and tax credit these individual receive over the years from Republican party to democratic party in congress. The report is within my expectation, the rich are getting subsidize by government every now and then for the passed hundred years. Cool!!

@lampar (7584)
• United States
28 Oct 11
Well, my friend, may be he is a member of the top 1 % in the country that wield tremedous amount of influence on the elected officials in congress and white house. In that case, i would probably don't want to accept a fair system too that treat me with no special privilege. I can't use my wealth and political connection to make me or my company richer and my children and grand children wealthier, then what's the use of a fair system. 



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@ferbjohn69 (1127)
• Philippines
27 Oct 11
Yes,that's true.As time passes by,the richer gets too richer.
They do it by paying their workers low prices,launching new business as an addition to their many businesses that are already making them rich,etc.
It is somehow the fault of the middle class and lower class people because they allow this to happen.
We should demand higher salaries now.:)
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
28 Oct 11
lol
This is an incredibly misleading way to paint wealth.
It implies that millionaires of old have turned into mega-billionaires whose controlling share in the world has exponentially increased.
That's wrong.
It's that the idea of "rich" is now different than what it was, not that people who already had money managed to make even more money.
It means that LeBron James makes more today than Larry Bird made over two decades ago.
It means that someone who starts a company like Facebook is worth more today than someone who started a travel agency in 1984.
Who is ignoring it?
The thing is that nobody is ignoring it. That's because it cannot be ignored. That's because the context in which people present the argument is false to begin with. It doesn't exist.
People are richer today as individuals and as corporations because of the type of world we inhabit.
The implication that there's this big pot of wealth in the world that the same rich people have been stealing from for three decades to take away from everyone else is on par with things like the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot.
@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
28 Oct 11
First of all, let's be clear that I am not talking about people who break the law. Rich and poor alike break the law.
That being said, the rich do tend to get richer, although their fortunes did not grow, and actually some fell, as a result of this current financial problem.
Do the poor get poorer? Some do, but you have a choice.
When I was a teen and early 20's I bought new cars every year. Sometimes more than one. I bought 8 brand new cars in 7 years. I used to put money down, 3-5k just so the loan I got was not upside down. But I was investing in a depreciating asset. Not a smart move.
Then I got wise. I paid off my last new car, and instead of putting 3-5k in cars every year, I started buying stocks and mutual funds with that money. Assets that have a good chance of increasing in value. Now I buy new used cars (hey let someone else take that depreciation hit) and I don't use loans to get them.
Am I now rich? Compared to the Forbes lists, hardly. Did I lose some money as a result of this financial issue? Sure, but so did those above and below me.
The thing is I realized that what I was doing was wrong, it was a no win situation.
So I changed my attitude, bought stock in the companies I was throwing money at, stopped buying everything in site, stopped using unsecured credit unless I could pay off the balance each month. Instead of spending every penny I got I now have more pennies not to spend.







