Detroit Police officer get a mysterious case of the blue flu

United States
November 19, 2011 4:17pm CST
After recent talks by the mayor and city council of layoffs and pay cuts for both the police department and the fire department 16 police called off of work leaving only 2 squad cars to patrol the section of Detroit north side, one of the worst for crime rate. Do you think the department should investigate this and discipline those involved? If not do you think this is going to spread? http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Detroit-police-officers-stage-sickout/-/1719418/4789076/-/bv1xekz/-/index.html
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
20 Nov 11
I can understand being upset about the Mayor's proposal but, in my opinion, they took an oath to protect people. Now I am not one to be so gullible as to believe that they all take that seriously. I have seen some very dirty authority figures in my time, but there are people out there that would take that oath seriously and I have to wonder why they are not in the police force now. If they were shopkeepers or farmers...ok...fine...but these are people that have the lives of people in their hands. If I were them, it would be very hard for me to wash the blood off mine if someone got killed during my protest. I think that officials should consider their actions and assign them to more appropriate duties where sporadic behavior does not so much effect the public. That was my business side talking
• Australia
21 Nov 11
I have to wonder how seriously today's recruits would take their responsibilities. The poor pay, poor conditions, risk, the failure of the courts to deal with crime, and so forth means that it becomes increasingly hard to attract recruits of any real ability. Clearly there are competent, committed police working, but I would imagine that they are now a minority, (and I am open to correction from someone who actually knows about this). It seems likely to me that a lot of today's greedy generation kids would only ever join the police force with the idea in mind of getting on some crim's payroll as early as possible. Lash
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Nov 11
You know...I have also seen a great deal of ego going on with younger officers too. They glamorize the job so much on movies and media..perhaps they have a different idea of what that job is when they take it. I do know their pay and working conditions stink. It might help raise moral and make them care about their job more if they were paid a bit more appropriately. As for discussing the generation at hand, we are going to be in big trouble. These are children that get what they want when they want it and they are thinking of numero uno in most everything they do. I actually had a course on the differences in the generations recently Hopefully there will be a few heroes among them.
• United States
21 Nov 11
Several years ago Detroit dropped their age old mandate that police had to live within the city to serve on the police force. I have to wonder if that didn't take away some of the loyalty to the community in the process. You tend to fight harder when its "your" area that you are fighting for and not just a paycheck. In my opinion anyways.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
20 Nov 11
hell yea they should be disciplined. Anybody willing to leave their co-worker like that deserves to lose their job. Maybe somebody should point out the fact that DETROIT HAS NO MONEY! [b]but many officials are predicting that Detroit’s cash flow will cease this December. [/b] Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/314727#ixzz1eFmHPIn9 Now I am a firm believer that the city government office and non essential workers should be gone first. But leaving your co workers in such a dangerous position is reprehensible. there is a reason that emergency workers are not allowed to strike.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
21 Nov 11
I agree 100% and it is up to the citizens of Detroit to hold his feet to the fire. They are in a very high crime area. Obviously (to you and me) the police should be a priority. And if the police can't protect the mayor, then maybe that is an issue the mayor should take up with the police. Get rid of his private security, after all, he is just another citizen.
• United States
21 Nov 11
I just wonder what kind of cuts the Detroit mayor plans on making himself, after all as I pointed out above, he has his own private security detail. I know he hasn't been as bad as the last Mayor who had stripper parties but I am sure there is a lot of pork that needs to go out of their (mayor + Council) budget as well but I somehow doubt that will happen.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
20 Nov 11
I'm not sure if they should be disciplined or not. I can see their point. Of all people to lay off, the police are not the ones. Maybe when the mayor and council sees what can happen with less of a police force, they'll come to their senses. At least that's what I think they're trying to say.
• United States
21 Nov 11
I am kind of on the fence with this one as far as discipline goes. But I doubt the mayor or city council will ever truly know how the public feels with their walled in mansions and security details. They won't ever really know the insecurity of the common people who live in that community or the daily fear the police know who patrol it.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
21 Nov 11
I have to agree with that. What I meant was not so much how the people felt but what actually happens, which I assume is more crime. No matter if they are insulated by their political positions, a high crime rate reflects on them. But then, many politicians can't think that far, so it may not matter at all.
• Australia
20 Nov 11
I'm surprised that this issue doesn't appear in more political discussions, particularly those about the rich getting richer. I have always considered it outrageous that the most important cogs in the governmental process, in human terms, people like police, fire fighters, nurses, teachers, welfare workers and so on are so desperatly underpaid. Their jobs are not only essential for the smooth running of a civilised society, they are also dangerous, thankless, dirty jobs and deserve to be paid decently. But they are almost always the last cab off the payroll rank, and it's amazing they don't strike more often. I suppose that is because collectively they share some degree of public service motivation. Instead, politicians and high level bureaucrats get large pay rises to keep them somewhere in line with big business upper management people, with whom they see themselves connected. Too many bloody chiefs. As with all such forms of conflict, just as with terrorism, the people who actually suffer are the "innocents" who have no input into either side of the arguments, which means you and me. If strikes (or terrorist attacks) could be targeted so as to affect primarily those who cause their problems, those at the top in other words, I would probably be supportive. As it is, I sympathise with their actions. Lash
• United States
21 Nov 11
As you said I can sympathize with their feelings also, lets face it crime in Detroit is one of the worst in the world. There is no doubt they earn their money a lot more than many other cities. I also wonder with all the modern technology coming into play with video cameras at street corners (which make the money the government wants) if its only a matter of time till the police force is privatized or trimmed to a very minimal. Who knows maybe its only a matter of time till we have a scenario that mirrors the movie robocop!
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
20 Nov 11
They are grossly underpaid. I do think that they deserve to be better compensated...I'm just not sure that the strike thing is the way to go when considering their responsibilities. The oath they take is not about money..it is about people. Maybe they should add an agreed amount of cash to the oath..lol.