Ok, Can of Worms Issue!

@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
February 20, 2012 9:46am CST
Through the wording of the "pro choice" crowd, I can prove that even they know that the fetus inside a human mother is alive. During an elective abortion, if the doctor removes the fetus from the womb alive, then kills the baby, it's no longer a legal abortion. It is murder. Hmmmm, so what does the doctor have to do prior to removing the fetus? Hmmmm? What was that? The life of the fetus must be terminated before removing it from the womb? But-but-but, how can a doctor kill that which was never alive? :: I sit here waiting on the accusations, hyperbole, sexist remarks and otherwise logical fallacies that are sure to come in the comments :::
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@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
20 Feb 12
Ok. They know the baby is alive, but they believe its a woman's choice and not someone else's choice. Honestly, if you didn't impregnate the woman then why do you care if they get an abortion. Why does this bother you? I don't personally think abortion is right, but I am pro-choice. Why? Because the women getting them have no impact on my life. I don't speak to every woman getting one. I don't have to live with it, if they regret their decision. No, they do. They are doing that to their bodies. They are getting rid of unborn children because they don't want them or for medical reasons. Why is this issue of them knowing a big deal? Perhaps most of the other pro-choice people realize its not their right to tell a woman whether or not she has to stay pregnant. None of us live the woman's life, only she does, and if married only her and her husband do. Family can be disappointed but they aren't really involved unless they pay for it. Other people can stick their nose in their business and say its 'wrong', 'immoral', blah blah blah, but they don't really matter since they aren't part of it. They could say its against God.. but who the hell cares because that is then between her and God if she believes in him. Not her, self righteous whiners, and God. Just her and God. So please why is this an issue when it doesn't personally affect you? You don't agree with abortion then find a spouse who agrees. Its really that simple.
• United States
21 Feb 12
I wasn't going to bring up Anthony, but I was definitely going to ask about murder in general. Maybe a mass shooting in a mall doesn't affect you either. So it doesn't matter what that person does? There are valid arguments for abortion, but not caring about life that isn't yours is kinda bunk. But at least you're honest with it. A lot of folks would talk around that point and deflect the issue to hide their true feelings.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Honestly... we are talking about abortions. Not mass murder, not any of that. We are talking about a pregnant woman who wants to terminate the life inside of HER body before it comes out. That is what we are talking about. Not after the baby is born abortions, but literally while its in that woman's body. I can't tell you to not get a tattoo if you want a tattoo. Its not MY choice if a pregnant woman doesn't want her baby. Its not. Its really not. You want to throw Casey Anthony at me. Here is the cold hard truth. It was NOT an abortion as the baby was not inside of her. I believe she should have rotted in jail, BUT her child was living and NOT apart of her anymore. Someone COULD have paid more attention and saved that child. The cold hard truth about you bringing her up.. how much time did you spend talking about her? Did it do more for that child or bring the child back to have you talking about it online or at work? No? Ah, I thought so. How many kids did you go adopt because you didn't want a mother like Casey Anthony to get a child in their hands again? None? Alright then. The fact is people complain about this subject but NO ONE has ANY RIGHT to tell these women what to do. If you would stop picking out what you didn't like.. I clearly said I personally don't think its right, but I am NOT going to tell other people what to do with their own bodies. That is their RIGHT to do WHATEVER they want with their bodies. It is. They will do whether its illegal or not if they don't want the baby. That is not my choice, that is not your choice, life still moves on. It is not ok for people to kill their children after birth which is what most pro-life people seem to gloss over. No one is saying that at all. What they are saying is that a woman has the right to do whatever to HER OWN BODY. Once the child is born.. that is not her body. I am not going to sit here and lie to you, to help you go to sleep and feel like you are a better person. People in the world die every minute... what about them? Are you thinking about them? Are you thinking about those people and crying for them as well when they die at on-work accidents, in other countries because they don't have food, in this country for the same reasons? Are you thinking of all the children in foster care that need good homes because their parents didn't want them? Are you going to go adopt a couple kids right now and save them from believing no one loves them? It is sad when a parent kills their child once it is out of their body. It is very very sad but the fact of the matter is life still goes on. That mother may end up regretting the decision, but life goes on. Do you care that a girl in another town, state, country from you had to get an abortion and all that you have never even heard about or does your life still go on and you pay no mind to it unless its gets televised or shown? I care about life, but I also know that logically speaking people will do what they want to do. End of story. Its her life... the world will not stop, people still need to go to work, bills still need to be paid, etc. Everyone is free to make their own decisions. I would personally never get an abortion. However, I am one of the few Americans who realize that I have no right to push my PERSONAL views on to others. That is why I am pro-choice.
• United States
20 Feb 12
You want the ugly truth? We're overpopulated and abortions are would be babies no one is willing to take care of, even up to the point that they are viable outside the womb. If you want to be pro-choice then you should have adopted at least 1 child, don't save a baby's life then walk away from it.
• United States
21 Feb 12
I completely agree, and I think birth control should be freely and readily available for anyone who needs it. Yet people will argue against that as well, and some religions still don't allow for the use of birth control.
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
20 Feb 12
Which is the definition of a partial birth abortion. And there are still so many people out there who don't even know what that is.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
26 Feb 12
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader - Ginsberg stated in a Time magazine article that she thought that abortion was to help control unwanted populations (minorities). “Frankly”, said Ginsburg “I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of, so that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion.” http://www.news-sentinel.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20110830/EDITORIAL/110839959 And if we want to have an honest conversation here, if we can abort babies in the womb because "we just don't want the child". How about we open it up to be able to abort up to 13 years old. We can then decide after we get to know the child if we want to give them life..... I feel I should point out that this is sarcasm...
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
21 Feb 12
Progressive definitions cannot be found in Merriam-Webster. They make them up post-policy. Life: (noun) - the ability for an organism to sustain itself without the help of its host; unless challenged, then "life" is a made-up word you pretend you didn't hear said by Hitler-loving right-wing Nazis who want to lynch black people and drown poor people and throw grandmothers off of cliffs.