Gasoline, petrol, petrol products, and lpg prices is getting out of hand

@louievill (28851)
Philippines
March 3, 2012 9:28am CST
I decided to start a discussion about this cause it's already getting out of hand, It's really funny when people like militant groups are protesting but what they do not know is petrol prices is dictatated by world prices, the peso dollar exchange and the availability of supply ( Iran and the strait of Hormuz blah blah...]. Now my question is how do you cope with this if it affects you, diesel is now 45+ pesos a liter, gasoline at 55+ and it would cost me double to have a full tank than before LPG is threatening to be 1,000 pesos( 23 dollars, we do not have gas pipe lines so we buy by the tank) a tank this week. Country man any suggestion how we deal with this? For me I got my machete and get all the fallen branches to use in boiling water, how about you? To foreign friends, I know you experience the same, can you give any suggestions? I really think that this is an all time high and may be worse than the Arab oil embargo during the 70's ( if you were already born), It's really funny , we may just all end up walking
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
26 Feb 16
Now...it has go do low
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
26 Feb 16
very very low, wonder why prices of basic commodities do not go down
@damned_dle (3942)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
The government should focus on improving our economy. If they do that, then our currency will improve = lower price petrol products. Apparently, the present administration is more focused on other things (like the impeachment case?) Another thing the government could do is to decrease the tax on petrol products until they fix our economy. So militant groups are protesting as a wake up call for the government to do their jobs! So we should appreciate what they are doing.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
very true, if the exchange rate favors us then we could buy it cheaper, my worry is if even if countries had the money but the supply is just not there because of the strait of Hormuz and Iran Sh*t and supply just dries up. Yes our countries have it's own internal problems but it should also focus on the external, I'm for scrapping Vat on oil products all together. Yes the Militant groups should serve as wake up call ( I appreciate what they do) but not blame Government all together on something we have no control of
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
@dazzledlady, that has long been suspected whenever there is a major issue in our country cause the basis is why would our poor countryman be there if you won't get anything? If the middle to the upper class go on the streets them there's really a problem as seen on the 2 EDSAS. Yes there are a few idealistics but how many? I really think we have to be prepared and make efforts on our own, think the rising gas prices is a major concern although some might not care right now.
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
Protesters serves to stir other people to make a stand regarding some issues. But from what ihave heard some of them were paid by a powerful person. And for those people in the streets it became a way of livelihood. I do hope someday Philippines will get pass crab mentality and together move towards building a great nation. We do have great potentials!
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
I don't have a car so I don't worry that much on my daily transportation expense. Adding to the fact that I'm just a ride away from work and can even hitch a ride using the company vehicle. But I'm really agitated on the LPG price increase, 900 plus is already alarming to think that conditions in the Arab region is not that bad yet.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
7 Mar 12
So I heard. Like you, I had been considering using charcoal or a gas stove. Some friends tell me that it's more cost efficient to use a gas stove compared to LPG. The only let down is the smell.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
6 Mar 12
At least my truck makes money but it would be reduced now, the AUV is some sort of a luxury, I use it to bring the children to and from school plus my mother whom I have to have a medical check up from time to time, plus the little luxury to be comfortable and representation when I'm on a business deal, I have to be really careful now on how I use it. So glad that it does not affect you much, even as I type, there will be another price increase tomorrow although the electric company announced a cut back this month. Yes the LPG problem, I'm now thinking of my charcoal stove. Rise in lpg would affect the ordinary working class Filipinos who eat in the "carinderia" ( road side eateries)and there are millions of them
@r3jcorp (1382)
• Philippines
4 Mar 12
That's exactly the same problem we are dealing with. Last year, our Php 500 worth of diesel is enough for a week of going to school to home again. But now, the P300 is not enough to last for 2 days. I don't know what to do as I have no option. Using jeepney and tricycle would cost me the same plus the extra time spent in travelling. We tried not using the aircon and do some repairs with the car, but its still the same. I hope I have lots of online earning to augment the price increase... but that would be too far to reality. As of today, I am trying to use the charcoal for boiling water, but I know it would be difficult as it is my first time to use it. I hope that the effort will worth the savings. Maybe at this point, we need a miracle....
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
4 Mar 12
Yeah it's Sunday today here and I think tomorrow Monday,there will be another oil price increase so I had my AUV filled full tank, diesel (50 liters), before it use to cost only 1,000 plus php (about 23+ usd) now it's 2,000 plus pesos. I also have an Isuzu elf closed van truck that has a bigger tank, OMG I have no choice but put my money inside the tank, don't want to do that tomorrow lol! Yes we need a miracle
@roshigo58 (4859)
• Pune, India
9 Jun 12
hi, You are absolutely right. According to me the executives in big organisations who are having perks by way of a decent choupher driven cars should not use the said car alone but to share it with other executives. So that for example say instead of five cars, five persons will travel in one car only. Secondly vehicles run on gas should be used as and when it is very much necessary. For shorter distances try to use public transport, or a walk or a cycle which is very cheap in all the respects.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
9 Jun 12
Nice suggestion, maybe the big executives should also car pool like ordianry citizens, but the other chauffeurs will lose their job, yes use other means besides gas guzzlers when ever we have the opportunity.
@MrGhost (550)
3 Apr 13
It is true but the number of private cars and two wheelers seems to prove the reverse.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
15 Apr 13
hello, this is quite a late post but people opting for 2 wheels instead of 4 seems to tell the whole story or does it, buying motorcycles had never been cheaper. Those in private cars are those who can still afford but till when?
@savypat (20216)
• United States
3 Mar 12
This is a real challenge for us. We live in a rural area so any trip for services, food, medicine, is now costing 3 times as much and we are told it will go even higher. The main thing we are doing is making any trip we make include as much as we can. A trip to the Doctor will also include food shopping, dropping off items that need repair or picking them up, this makes our trips all day instead of just a couple of hours.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
Yes friend, when oil goes up then everything goes up cause everything from the basic goes up or is dependent on it. America has it's own oil fields and has long been rumored to keep or save a few in case of a situation like this, is this true?( you don't have to answer that), but what about us? hehe... guess we have to go back to gathering fallen firewood
@marguicha (215635)
• Chile
4 Mar 12
Where I live, it is forbidden to have chimneys or any sort of fire with braches and logs as our city´s air is very polluted. I´m trying to save gas for heat as much as possible by using warm clothes in Winter and having the house colder. But there are items where you cannot save much. I also try to use public transportation as much as I can and only use my car to get to the nearest point where I will have the Metro.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
4 Mar 12
Hello, glad you are back, got a little worried when it took you more than one week to return from your vacation. Yes I am also against cutting of trees for fuel, but I think it won't hurt if you just pick up a few fallen branches in the vacant lot and combine it with charcoal from coconut shells (not wood)in a small efficient stove to heat water and do it out door. Yes we have a clean air act, but if it's really clean air we like then we have to minimize the use of cars.
@yahnee (1243)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
As long as there is dependence upon the oil rich countries for fuel, we have to abide by what prices they dictate whether we like it or not. There are many countries nowadays where they have started using the renewable sources of energy like the sun, wind and water. The government must pay attention to this if they want to limit the fuel prices. Since we cannot use the nuclear power to generate electricity, why not try the solar power? I was reading an article regarding the use of solar panels in Germany and UK, citizens get to earn from the feed in tariffs for the solar panels they install in their roofs. Germany is the world leader in solar technology and people are benefiting from the use of the solar panels as they get a reduction in their monthly fuel bills and get paid through the FIT's. The government must seek measures before everything gets out of hand. This increase in fuel prices would most likely result in another fare increase for the people and a lot of militant action on the streets.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
4 Mar 12
Exactly, we should explore new sources of energy, I hope we see the day when we all won't give a damn anymore if oil prices go up or down. I think as of now, some options are still expensive to produce or still does not produce enough, I'm sure we will all get there someday. In the Philippines I think it's the Ilocos Province that harnesses the full power of the wind so far. What people need is an incentive if they use alternative sources of energy, don't know how they can implement that in our country where everything is a monopoly and has ties somewhat with people in power.
@winston90 (296)
• Romania
3 Mar 12
In my opinion protests aren't going to save anything and anybody. The most protests can do is to intimidate a little, but nothing will change. Prices for oil will rise as long as there is not any more of it left, so the prices for everything that is based on oil will also rise, as well as the prices for substitutes for oil and oil products. Electricity is a very good alternative, but there is no one powerful enough that can promote this alternative, because the lords of oil will never allow them to steal their customers. It makes me sick just thinking of them, but this is the world we are living in, and all we ca do is hope for somebody that has money and god will to save us. Or we can try and die for our rights. It's only a matter of choice. All life is a choice.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
3 Mar 12
yes I really honestly do think that protesting will get no where, the best it could do is get fuel regulated and get rid of VAT on petrol products. Yes electricity is a good option such as in electric cars but electricity as we know in our country is still gas powered ( some is geothermal so that's good) not unless it has a solar power or wind power source on it like a solar cell on top of the car.
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@mgzg11 (139)
• Croatia (Hrvatska)
3 Mar 12
Prices of any product are determined by the demand and offer. That's what everybody saying this days. But fact is that prices also includes production costs, transportation, and quite a few other factors. On top of that, in today's economy, profit (or plain greed) and speculations of rich and powerful is adding to the price. And while those things I mentioned first are inevitable, those extra burdens is what really makes it hard for us. Fact is that cheap oil (cheap in sense of production costs) is gone. There is still lot of oil reserves in the world, but production costs will rise, and final price with it as well. What can we do? Try to make better use of what we got. Where I live, I still see that most of the cars have one, mostly two passengers in them. If people work together, and living close to each other, why can't they share a car and expenses? We have to use public transportation if it's possible, and bicycles for short distances. Using falling branches is one way of saving too. And generally using energy in wiser and eco friendlier ways is something that we have start to do as soon as possible. Things are going to be worse, and we must get adapt to it, the sooner the better.
@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
4 Mar 12
I know it would get worst, all the things you mentioned plus a major oil producer stopping sales because it gets pressured by being suspected of developing nuclear power other than for energy. Yes, this early we already have to think in advance and like you said learn to adapt.